Bank Fraud

karol.karol · #1 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 02:02 AM

I got myself into some kind of scam. A friend introduced me to a guy and I gave him my bank account number, and all the info needed to access my account. So basically, he transferred about $50000 into my account, who knows from where. Then I go take out the money and give him half. Will I be in trouble? Legally I have no idea where the money came from and I did not do the transfer. But something tells me I will be in trouble for this kind of amount...

shetlan · #2 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by karol.karol

I got myself into some kind of scam. A friend introduced me to a guy and I gave him my bank account number, and all the info needed to access my account. So basically, he transferred about $50000 into my account, who knows from where. Then I go take out the money and give him half. Will I be in trouble? Legally I have no idea where the money came from and I did not do the transfer. But something tells me I will be in trouble for this kind of amount...

A 50,000 transfer will be flagged by both the secret service and the FBI, so yes, you might get into trouble if you can't explain why you took the transfer. Depending on where the money came from, you could be in alot of trouble.

Steve_TPF · #3 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 12:32 PM

karol.karol: Did it never occur to you that this was fishy? Why would someone pay you $25,000 just for using your bank account? Unless of course he didn't want it showing up in his...

If you get busted here you deserve it. This was not smart.

karol.karol · #4 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 02:59 PM

I didn't do it yet. The money shows up in the account, but have not cleared I think. I am hesitant to go to bank and attempt to withdraw this money that is why I am here. I am thinking I could use the ABM and take out little by little and not show the face that way I can say I lost my bank card if caught. What do you think?
I definately not going into bank personally.

dudewheresmytardis · #5 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 03:37 PM

get this guy a fake ID with your info, and get yourself a hypodermic needle and fill it with a hot dose of heroin. Let him go in and get it. if he tries to make off with all of it fill him up. Stash the money either way. BTW the feds do redflag such transactions but it will only be investigated if someone complains about it. If you don't appear to have any of the money, and it was withdrawl by someone else using fake id and your info it will eventually be written off that your ID was stolen. Still you maybe shouldn't have gotten into this.

Steve_TPF · #6 (**permalink**) 09-19-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by karol.karol

I didn't do it yet. The money shows up in the account, but have not cleared I think. I am hesitant to go to bank and attempt to withdraw this money that is why I am here. I am thinking I could use the ABM and take out little by little and not show the face that way I can say I lost my bank card if caught. What do you think?

Drawing it out in small amounts won't help if there's already a record of a $50,000 deposit. Losing your bank card won't explain where the 50 grand came from.

If you can cancel this transaction then do so. I find it hard to believe that anyone would pay you half to launder this money through your account - unless they don't want a trail that leads back to them. If this money was legitimate he would put it in his own account wouldn't he?

shit for brains · #7 (**permalink**) 09-27-2009, 03:24 AM

This is very risky, Don't withdraw anything and just let it sit there for 6 months then maybe take it, If its still in there. Its sometimes more difficult to reverse transfers from an outside the Country.

slyguy2009 · #8 (**permalink**) 09-27-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by karol.karol

I got myself into some kind of scam. A friend introduced me to a guy and I gave him my bank account number, and all the info needed to access my account. So basically, he transferred about $50000 into my account, who knows from where. Then I go take out the money and give him half. Will I be in trouble? Legally I have no idea where the money came from and I did not do the transfer. But something tells me I will be in trouble for this kind of amount...

DO NOT DO IT!!!! I REPEAT.... DO NOT DO IT!!!!! ok first off- there is a scam where someone writes a check for you, then it gets deposited and you take the money out and give them half. Soon there after the check bounces/ is discovered as fraudulant/ is from another country and gets charged back.

Now you owe the bank 25k. I recommend not taking part in this transaction. Not to mention the fact that anything transaction over 10k automatically gets reported to the IRS

Dozer · #9 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 03:05 PM

You're just being asked to be a mule... normally, when you've got no clue what's going on, you don't get in trouble. But clearly you do know what's going on, and you posted about it on an internet forum (a fact which LE will notice)...

You should likely report it now or prepare to get hosed.

bostonboy · #10 (**permalink**) 09-30-2009, 03:27 PM

So you dont like transfers of 50k to your account, your affraid of the police and FBI and the secret boy, BUT, you guys are all on a webpage called BOMBSHOCK then to ¨money fake id and free living¨ then to a post called ¨bank fraud¨ Yup sounds to me like your Mr. and Mrs.Kliver and pay your taxes in April buy the 15th etc!!! I would say about 60% of the people that visit here are cops thats number one. Number two, if you came here its BECAUSE your bent in some way or other to the other side of doing the correct thing! Send me the 50k and I promise not to enjoy it at all and feel really badly as I spend it, promise.

Dozer · #11 (**permalink**) 10-01-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonboy

So you dont like transfers of 50k to your account, your affraid of the police and FBI and the secret boy, BUT, you guys are all on a webpage called BOMBSHOCK then to ¨money fake id and free living¨ then to a post called ¨bank fraud¨ Yup sounds to me like your Mr. and Mrs.Kliver and pay your taxes in April buy the 15th etc!!! I would say about 60% of the people that visit here are cops thats number one. Number two, if you came here its BECAUSE your bent in some way or other to the other side of doing the correct thing! Send me the 50k and I promise not to enjoy it at all and feel really badly as I spend it, promise.

You're missing the point... completely... The problem is not that most anyone, or at least I, have a problem with the moral aspect of this. The problem is that this is a bad setup. It WILL lead to his downfall... so, if you want to get hosed, have him transfer the 50k to you. Sounds to me like you don't understand bank cashouts. Good luck.

bostonboy · #12 (**permalink**) 10-01-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dozer

You're missing the point... completely... The problem is not that most anyone, or at least I, have a problem with the moral aspect of this. The problem is that this is a bad setup. It WILL lead to his downfall... so, if you want to get hosed, have him transfer the 50k to you. Sounds to me like you don't understand bank cashouts. Good luck.

Let me tell you just one last thing bro, this site is visited by people from all over the world not just the US. So there are some countrys that a job like this would work best. That someone would go to the extent of accepting the transffer and then ask questions about the legality is to me crazy in as much as they clearly want the cash. Who, that is in the game, would not know the fallout of accepting the cash into the account. In fact most likely both he and the account are now flagged. This is post 9/11 we all live in so we who are in the game make plans FIRST then the transffer. There are so many ways to open accounts now and use falls info that its crazy.

shetlan · #13 (**permalink**) 10-01-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bostonboy

Let me tell you just one last thing bro, this site is visited by people from all over the world not just the US. So there are some countrys that a job like this would work best.

As we've discussed in several other threads, the vast majority of the members are from the US. It's typically a good rule of thumb to assume that the poster is asking about US laws unless noted otherwise.

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Originally Posted by bostonboy

That someone would go to the extent of accepting the transffer and then ask questions about the legality is to me crazy in as much as they clearly want the cash.

He didn't ask about the legality of the transfer, he asked if he was likely to get in trouble (ie. get caught) because of the size of the amount.

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Originally Posted by bostonboy

Who, that is in the game, would not know the fallout of accepting the cash into the account. In fact most likely both he and the account are now flagged.

Which is all he asked. He never said he was a professional of any kind (not "in the game"); actually, he specifically said that he thought he was being scammed.