credit card fraud

[LSDGiraffe]

I'm a newly signed member and I have a couple of questions. Hopefully you can help me sheltan ^^ since I've seen you post a lot and you usually know what you're talking about I've been working at a gas station for a while now and I've accumulated a good amount of Credit Card numbers and their expiration dates(on paper) but I don't have the 3Digit verification numbers. Is there anything I can do with the cards at all in person/online? I've searched the site but I didn't find anything useful on this matter.

So, if anyone with an idea don't me shy to write it thanks a lot.

My idea was:

-There are many places you can order over the phone and they don't ask you for the Card verification numbers so placing an order would be easy under a fake alias, picking up the item is the 'harder' part and i'm not really fond of it since it seems like its easy to get caught using a drop location.

Anythings else? lol

[DarkPortrait]

Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe

I'm a newly signed member and I have a couple of questions. Hopefully you can help me sheltan ^^ since I've seen you post a lot and you usually know what you're talking about I've been working at a gas station for a while now and I've accumulated a good amount of Credit Card numbers and their expiration dates(on paper) but I don't have the 3Digit verification numbers. Is there anything I can do with the cards at all in person/online? I've searched the site but I didn't find anything useful on this matter.

So, if anyone with an idea don't me shy to write it thanks a lot.

My idea was:

-There are many places you can order over the phone and they don't ask you for the Card verification numbers so placing an order would be easy under a fake alias, picking up the item is the 'harder' part and i'm not really fond of it since it seems like its easy to get caught using a drop location.

Anythings else? lol

Do you have the person's name? Becuase I remember that I once did something like this but the website actually needed the correct name that was on the card, Which I didnt know :/. Im not sure how many if many websites need this but yeah might be good to have. Especially if on the phone and they ask the person's name.

[LSDGiraffe]

I have the name, address, postal code, phone number, etc for every credit card. Don't ask how, I just do :P

I know I can always call them and pretend I'm calling from the bank but I wanna make sure im not over thinking anything before trying that.

Thanks for posting and what site are yo talking about? Thanks.

[DarkPortrait]

Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe

I have the name, address, postal code, phone number, etc for every credit card. Don't ask how, I just do :P

I know I can always call them and pretend I'm calling from the bank but I wanna make sure im not over thinking anything before trying that.

Thanks for posting and what site are yo talking about? Thanks.

I honestly dont remember the site it was some import site from china so yeah go figure..

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe

There are many places you can order over the phone and they don't ask you for the Card verification numbers so placing an order would be easy under a fake alias, picking up the item is the 'harder' part and i'm not really fond of it since it seems like its easy to get caught using a drop location.

Anythings else? lol

Unless you want to try to physically duplicate the cards based on the numbers and names, that's pretty much where you're left. Then again, many stores won't ship to an address other than the billing address these days.

[LSDGiraffe]

I know somebody who works at a call center for Sears and when people call him to place an order the billing address doesn't have to match since you can make it a 'Gift Order' to someone else and they don't ask for the 3 digits, they just charge extra for delivery. But the thing is that the item is delivered via purolator and they don't leave the item at the door if nobody is home, they leave a note and you have to go pick it up from the post office.

Also, when I read through the forum I saw some guy post an idea, it was something like this:

Find a house where an old person/couple lives, knock on their door and tell them that my item was accidentally shipped to 101 John Smith St.(their address) instead of 101 John Smith Boulevard(mine) and that if it's ok that I'll stop buy in a couple of days and pick up the item.

Or

Get some girl(since they're less likely to scam people) and tell her to call the people pretending to be from the bank and ask them to verify their CVV number.

Also, since there are 3 digits that means there are 999 possibilities for the number, wouldn't it be possible to just try all possible digits from 000-999 until I find the right one that works... on like a poker site?

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe

Also, when I read through the forum I saw some guy post an idea, it was something like this:

Find a house where an old person/couple lives, knock on their door and tell them that my item was accidentally shipped to 101 John Smith St.(their address) instead of 101 John Smith Boulevard(mine) and that if it's ok that I'll stop buy in a couple of days and pick up the item.

Or

Get some girl(since they're less likely to scam people) and tell her to call the people pretending to be from the bank and ask them to verify their CVV number.

Or you could save yourself the hassle and have it sent to a house that's empty. Place the order and have it shipped to the name on the reality sign, this assures that the postman won't ask too many questions about delivering to a house with a reality sign out front. Drive by the house every now and again checking if the box has arrived yet.

Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe

Also, since there are 3 digits that means there are 999 possibilities for the number, wouldn't it be possible to just try all possible digits from 000-999 until I find the right one that works... on like a poker site?

Some sites might let you, but many probably won't. Also, much like entering the wrong PIN, the credit card company probably won't let you do it more than a few times before they flag the card.

If you manage to do that, there are far better ways than a poker site.

[Dozer]

There are some sites that allow for carding without the CVN, but if you use these cards with ANY kind of frequency, you can expect a visit from the police. Credit card companies are VERY adept at locating where cards are being stolen from. They'll notice the trend that people who visit your business are often future victims and they'll check it out.

As for creating a physical card, without the track data that's useless. Even if you went to the effort of embossing a card with matching numbers, if it won't swipe and has no CVN, it's useless except as collateral.

[LSDGiraffe]

If you manage to do that, there are far better ways than a poker site.

Do you mind sharing please?

There are some sites that allow for carding without the CVN

Also, would you happen to know of any?

but if you use these cards with ANY kind of frequency, you can expect a visit from the police. Credit card companies are VERY adept at locating where cards are being stolen from. They'll notice the trend that people who visit your business are often future victims and they'll check it out

I've had these card numbers for months now and im sure these people used them elsewhere more than once. Where im from
fraud isnt that big of a deal compared to the US and most of the time goes unpunished, I know first hand. Also, here, most credit cards dont investigate the issue unless its over 5,000$. I know this because my sister's boyfriend works for Desjardins VISA.

Also, I dont think that out of all the thousands of fraud incidents each day that 3 misused cards that happened to be used at the same gas station 6 months ago would raise that much attention. Yes it's pretty sketchy but in my opinion its not any solid proof of anything and could just be a coincidence, unless it happens over and over and over. But like I said before, most branches over here dont even go that far if its under 5,000$ they just reimburse the person.

So I guess so far im stuck either A) Calling the people and trying to get their CVV with all the information I got on them or B) Or over the phone and have it delivered to a drop location.

Thanks a lot for all of your posts and trying to help me.

PS: sheltan, what do you mean drive and see if the box has arrived? The delivery guys don't leave the package bythe door here since all of the over-the-phone orders dont allow that here.

[shetlan]

Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe

Do you mind sharing please?

I do actually.

Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe

PS: sheltan, what do you mean drive and see if the box has arrived? The delivery guys don't leave the package bythe door here since all of the over-the-phone orders dont allow that here.

Ah - here, the delivery guys just drop it by the door; I'd didn't realize you wheren't in the US.

[Dozer]

Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe

I've had these card numbers for months now and im sure these people used them elsewhere more than once. Where im from
fraud isnt that big of a deal compared to the US and most of the time goes unpunished, I know first hand. Also, here, most credit cards dont investigate the issue unless its over 5,000$. I know this because my sister's boyfriend works for Desjardins VISA.

Also, I dont think that out of all the thousands of fraud incidents each day that 3 misused cards that happened to be used at the same gas station 6 months ago would raise that much attention. Yes it's pretty sketchy but in my opinion its not any solid proof of anything and could just be a coincidence, unless it happens over and over and over. But like I said before, most branches over here dont even go that far if its under 5,000$ they just reimburse the person.

So I guess so far im stuck either A) Calling the people and trying to get their CVV with all the information I got on them or B) Or over the phone and have it delivered to a drop location.

Thanks a lot for all of your posts and trying to help me.

PS: sheltan, what do you mean drive and see if the box has arrived? The delivery guys don't leave the package bythe door here since all of the over-the-phone orders dont allow that here.

Dude... everyone who's ever gotten caught has thought they were too smart for that.

Single transactions of $5000 don't matter. If the CC company sees a rash of stolen card transactions, and they all have your business in common, it doesn't matter how long ago it was... they'll figure it out. So, unless you're sticking to small "nickel and dime" purchases... then you're hosed. Oh, and if you plan to try to phish the CVN from these people, if you're seriously going to go to that kind of effort, then you likely won't be nickel and diming them.

So... if you want the advice of a carder. Ditch the cards. If you want to card, go buy legit fullz from a good vendor. Don't shit where you sleep (or, in this case, work).

[samthehacker]

Originally Posted by Dozer

Dude... everyone who's ever gotten caught has thought they were too smart for that.

Single transactions of $5000 don't matter. If the CC company sees a rash of stolen card transactions, and they all have your business in common, it doesn't matter how long ago it was... they'll figure it out. So, unless you're sticking to small "nickel and dime" purchases... then you're hosed. Oh, and if you plan to try to phish the CVN from these people, if you're seriously going to go to that kind of effort, then you likely won't be nickel and diming them.

So... if you want the advice of a carder. Ditch the cards. If you want to card, go buy legit fullz from a good vendor. Don't shit where you sleep (or, in this case, work).

I agree. If you are serious about doing any sort of credit card fraud the first thing you should do is find vendors that sell fullz. Remember using the cards that you get from work is risky as the police target these kind of things just like they target sellers of CC's, buyers are just collateral damage.

[LSDGiraffe]

I have a good amount of cards that arent from my work nor my country, I just need help fuguring out what I can do with the cards if I dont have the CVV#. That's all. Thanks for the responding and sharing though :]

[orion]

If youre completely set on trying to use these cards, try 001,002,003 for Cvv codes...

That used to work on most sites requiring it.

Or you can order pizza with just the info you have. SWIM has ordered tons of pizza to homes for sale and tips the driver like $20 through the cc. All they ask for is ccnum and ccexp.

I really wouldnt shit where you eat though....

You cant pull some high priced items with just the information you have.