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10-24-2009, 09:51 PM
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Hello,
I have read the thread about the eBay scam where one simply sells a picture of an item, but gets as much money as they would if they were actually selling the item. An example would be selling a picture of an iPod. You must state that you are only selling a PICTURE of an iPod in the description, that way there is nothing the buyer can say or do to get his money back. The way the scam works is just by people being careless and not reading the entire description of the item they are bidding on. I would like to start off by saying that I have tried the scam myself, and I would like to testify that it works. It is tricky, but it does work. I had put an auction on eBay for a picture of an electronics(I don't want to say what the exact auction was for, simply because I don't want too many people to do this. Sorry), here's the problem:
The auction was at $6000 on the fourth day, I imagine that it could have gone higher, but my account got blocked and the auction was closed down. The reason my account got blocked or suspended is not because they knew it was a scam, but because I had violated the eBay policy by registering too many eBay accounts under the same name and address.
The reason I am posting this on bombshock, is because I need help. I would like to know if anyone would be interested in doing this with me and splitting the money we earn. I assure you, this does work and it is a fast and easy way to make a lot of money If you are interested in helping me and splitting the money we make, then please contact me at captainmorgan877@yahoo.com
We would have to discuss a few things like how we would get the money to each other and obvious things like that. All I need is someone to loan me an eBay sellers account and we can start making money. I already have the auction made and ready to post on eBay.I also have many other auctions that we could post on eBay simultaneously to maximize our profits. This would be some easy money in very little time. Please get back to me if you are interested in working together on this. Thank you very much.  |  | | | |
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This isn't really a scam. More like a deception and a juvenile prank. For it to work, it would have to be for many low-ticket items. eBay routinely disables accounts for this kind of activity. Variations on this include selling the BOX to an iPod, XBOX, PS3, Wii, or other electronics item. You'd also need to setup various accounts with stolen credentials, wait 60 days until you are eligible for a PayPal debit/ATM card, and get it so that you can withdrawal the cash immediately after winning. You're better off creating these accounts and then just selling items and not fulfilling. Selling the boxes & pictures of items will get your legit accounts canned, and don't turn enough profit to go through the trouble of setting up illegit accounts; which would involve verifying a bank account, SS#, address, phone #, etc; a serious pain in the ass if you're only netting $100 or so per auction. It's chump change and not worth the time.
If you do want to desperately proceed, though, finding someone dumb enough to risk their sellers account to make a few hundred bucks is tough. Maybe you can find a dumb "Niggerian" that will set one up and rent it out. No one would really want to be involved in selling photos and empty boxes of items for a few hundred dollars. If you do find someone interested, hit me up, I can use him for a few things as well.
Not to shit on the method, but the non-fulfillment is your best way to make a lot more money.
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Originally Posted by nightshade877  Hello,
I have read the thread about the eBay scam where one simply sells a picture of an item, but gets as much money as they would if they were actually selling the item. An example would be selling a picture of an iPod. You must state that you are only selling a PICTURE of an iPod in the description, that way there is nothing the buyer can say or do to get his money back. The way the scam works is just by people being careless and not reading the entire description of the item they are bidding on. I would like to start off by saying that I have tried the scam myself, and I would like to testify that it works. It is tricky, but it does work. I had put an auction on eBay for a picture of an electronics(I don't want to say what the exact auction was for, simply because I don't want too many people to do this. Sorry), here's the problem:
The auction was at $6000 on the fourth day, I imagine that it could have gone higher, but my account got blocked and the auction was closed down. The reason my account got blocked or suspended is not because they knew it was a scam, but because I had violated the eBay policy by registering too many eBay accounts under the same name and address.
The reason I am posting this on bombshock, is because I need help. I would like to know if anyone would be interested in doing this with me and splitting the money we earn. I assure you, this does work and it is a fast and easy way to make a lot of money If you are interested in helping me and splitting the money we make, then please contact me at captainmorgan877@yahoo.com
We would have to discuss a few things like how we would get the money to each other and obvious things like that. All I need is someone to loan me an eBay sellers account and we can start making money. I already have the auction made and ready to post on eBay.I also have many other auctions that we could post on eBay simultaneously to maximize our profits. This would be some easy money in very little time. Please get back to me if you are interested in working together on this. Thank you very much. | | | | | |
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This isn't really a scam. More like a deception and a juvenile prank. For it to work, it would have to be for many low-ticket items. eBay routinely disables accounts for this kind of activity. Variations on this include selling the BOX to an iPod, XBOX, PS3, Wii, or other electronics item. You'd also need to setup various accounts with stolen credentials, wait 60 days until you are eligible for a PayPal debit/ATM card, and get it so that you can withdrawal the cash immediately after winning. You're better off creating these accounts and then just selling items and not fulfilling. Selling the boxes & pictures of items will get your legit accounts canned, and don't turn enough profit to go through the trouble of setting up illegit accounts; which would involve verifying a bank account, SS#, address, phone #, etc; a serious pain in the ass if you're only netting $100 or so per auction. It's chump change and not worth the time.
If you do want to desperately proceed, though, finding someone dumb enough to risk their sellers account to make a few hundred bucks is tough. Maybe you can find a dumb "Niggerian" that will set one up and rent it out. No one would really want to be involved in selling photos and empty boxes of items for a few hundred dollars. If you do find someone interested, hit me up, I can use him for a few things as well.
Not to shit on the method, but the non-fulfillment is your best way to make a lot more money.
| I've actually sold a picture of a Dell laptop for over 3,000$ without the complexity you mentioned, in less than 7days.
I purchased a laptop at staples, took a picture of it with the bill next to it, scanned the bill then returned it. Next day I set up a 3 day auction for the picture of the Dell Laptop using my real eBay account and my paypal.
After the auction ended the winner sent the total amount to my paypal and I shipped him a toaster box with a couple of rocks inside and the picture, so it matches the weight of the item described in my ebay description and waited.
A couple of days later the buyer disputed the transaction on paypal so they suspended my paypal account asking for the tracking number, picture of the item, the bill, the CC used to purchase the item(if applicable) and a scanned copy of my drivers license. I handed everything over, it got cleared and I got my money. | |
10-26-2009, 10:12 PM
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Another halfway decent Ebay "scam" that requires two people is this: Post a real item, have someone you know buy it with a "buy now" price, insure the item with UPS and ship it, have the person you sent it to bring a similar (but badly damaged) item in to UPS and file a claim for "damage in shipping" They will issue a check, usually within 14 days, and now you have the item and the money.... | | | |
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That's real, real ballsy dude. Why risk possible criminal (in the case that, I assume, interstate commerce was conducted) or in this case, possible civil litigation exposing your real identity when you can be anonymous for some extra effort?
Not saying it wasn't lucrative, but it could've gone the other way. Plus the guy now knows who you are, right?
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Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe I've actually sold a picture of a Dell laptop for over 3,000$ without the complexity you mentioned, in less than 7days.
I purchased a laptop at staples, took a picture of it with the bill next to it, scanned the bill then returned it. Next day I set up a 3 day auction for the picture of the Dell Laptop using my real eBay account and my paypal.
After the auction ended the winner sent the total amount to my paypal and I shipped him a toaster box with a couple of rocks inside and the picture, so it matches the weight of the item described in my ebay description and waited.
A couple of days later the buyer disputed the transaction on paypal so they suspended my paypal account asking for the tracking number, picture of the item, the bill, the CC used to purchase the item(if applicable) and a scanned copy of my drivers license. I handed everything over, it got cleared and I got my money. | | |
11-12-2009, 12:07 PM
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Funny shit giraffe. Do you write for The Office or SNL?
A $3,000 "Dell" laptop. HAHAHHAHAHAHA
Someone actually paying anywhere close to that on Ebay. HAHAHAHAHAHA
The guy not getting your contact information and bashing your head in with the rocks you sent him. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Nice, imaginative stuff. But maybe lay off the ingesting too much of the first 3 letters of your name, mkaaaaaay. |
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Actually that method works. Or ou could just ship them a completely broken item which can be found. Hell you could insure it for the customer and they get their money back too. If you have some pictures of a variety of things you could get by with a few transactions this way. Why send rocks when you could send parts? BTW tried and done. |
11-12-2009, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HarryCallahan Funny shit giraffe. Do you write for The Office or SNL?
A $3,000 "Dell" laptop. HAHAHHAHAHAHA | LDS_Giraffe is in Canada. I would assume that he means $3,000 in Canadian dollars.
Though CAD is worth 90%+- USD - many US sellers charge as though it was 75%.
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Alright Harry, let's take it step by step.
A Customized Dell XPS gaming laptop - Starting price 1,199$. Add:
1. Nebula Red Anodized aluminum - 100$
2. Intel Core 2Quad Q9100 2.26Ghz (12MB cache 1066MHz FSB) - 800$
3. Windows XP - FREE
4. 1 Year home warranty - 79$
5. Dual Nvidia Geforce GTX280, 2GB SLI Enabled - 600$
6. Upgraded LCD panel - 150$
7. 6GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz - 400$
8. 500GB HD - 75$
9. Dual layer blue raye burner - 300$
Grand total? 4,223$ after taxes. Would of been a lot higher have I chosen a better video card, more ram and a bigger HD.
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Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe Alright Harry, let's take it step by step.
A Customized Dell XPS gaming laptop - Starting price 1,199$. Add:
1. Nebula Red Anodized aluminum - 100$
2. Intel Core 2Quad Q9100 2.26Ghz (12MB cache 1066MHz FSB) - 800$
3. Windows XP - FREE
4. 1 Year home warranty - 79$
5. Dual Nvidia Geforce GTX280, 2GB SLI Enabled - 600$
6. Upgraded LCD panel - 150$
7. 6GB DDR3 @ 1333MHz - 400$
8. 500GB HD - 75$
9. Dual layer blue raye burner - 300$
Grand total? 4,223$ after taxes. Would of been a lot higher have I chosen a better video card, more ram and a bigger HD.
Alienware M17x, enjoy harry. | There are a few Alienware Dell's on there that are almost $3K without modifications (adjusted to CAD, they'd be $3500 or so).
None the less, Harry has proven himself to be incapable of scanning an image into his computer - a complex idea like ebay is almost certainely beyond his reach.
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Originally Posted by LSDGiraffe I've actually sold a picture of a Dell laptop for over 3,000$ without the complexity you mentioned, in less than 7days | So is there any way for the buyer to determine who you are? Certainly if I blew 3 grand on a scam I would have no problem traveling to another country to uhh... meet... the seller.
We can assume the seller's life would then become either very short, very painful, or both 
Even if they can't find out who you are, that's kinda a dick move. I mean... I guess I'm on the wrong forum if I cared about this type of thing, but yeah... racking up some bad karma there bro :P
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Originally Posted by AnonymousUploads Even if they can't find out who you are, that's kinda a dick move. I mean... I guess I'm on the wrong forum if I cared about this type of thing, but yeah... racking up some bad karma there bro :P | Your probably right. I'd even go so far as to say you probably shouldn't read scam threads if stealing 3k offends your fragile sensibilities. |
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Wait, I thought you needed over 25 feedback before you could sell expensive items? Sorry if I misunderstood but I sounds like your using throw away accounts.
You could always say on the auction the item will be posted at 'sellers standard rate' and not include tracking, then say 'you didnt pay for insurance or tracking so I cant be held responsible for lost items, which I stated on the info section of my auction' and just never post the item.
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Originally Posted by cold_sweat Wait, I thought you needed over 25 feedback before you could sell expensive items? Sorry if I misunderstood but I sounds like your using throw away accounts. | Leaving feedback is entirely optional - why on earth would ebay base permissions on feedback. For that matter, how could people sell cars on ebay-motors if they wheren't regular ebay sellers.
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11-18-2009, 08:38 PM
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I know its entirely optional. They sell the motors by waiting 21 days or getting positive feedback. What Im saying pertains to 'running with the cash' method.
From what Im reading, Im gusing you setup accounts with pay pal & ebay using a prepaid credit card (if possible), sell a few cheap things then attempt to sell a pricey item.
This is what Ive been told. If you expect to sell that pricey item with only few sales, good luck. If you also expect to sale that item, and immediately run with the cash after payment to your paypal, its not gonna happen unless you have 25 feedback or more.
Why? cause you have to wait 21 days for paypal to release the payment of expensive items if you have under 25 feedback, unless you get a positive feedback from the buyer - which wont happen since your scamming him or the buyer is fine with waiting 21 days until his package arrives ( plus the 3 days it takes for paypal to transfer that money to your prepaid card) and that, is very unlikly. | |
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Originally Posted by cold_sweat I know its entirely optional. They sell the motors by waiting 21 days or getting positive feedback. What Im saying pertains to 'running with the cash' method. | There are no rules on the ebay site reguarding this so where are you getting it?
From the rest of your post, this is entirely speculation that you've never bothered to fact check.
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1: As I said, it's not in the ebay rules.
2: It's "paypal's 21 day hold".
3: The hold is a "may" not a "will". Paypal's own statement said that this would be a rarely used capability. Quote: |
Originally Posted by from your link In a small percentage of cases where it has been determined the risk of dissatisfied buyers is higher, PayPal may delay release of the payment funds to the seller until the buyer has left a positive feedback or 21 days have passed without a dispute, claim, chargeback or reversal filed on that transaction. | Quote:
Originally Posted by cold_sweat | Kinda' funny coming from a guy who apparently can't read. 
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You've totally derailed my original point here, which was you cant run with the cash without a decent amount of buyer feedback, no matter how deluded you are. Stop sitting there trying to discredit everything Im saying, its insulting.
It being paypals or ebays 21 day hold still means theres a hold. I have personally experienced this until my account had over 25 feedback, I couldnt even sell items over 30 quid without waiting.
As soon as I saw your comment, I knew I wouldt be able to properly talk to you which is a shame. I mean common, speculation? Hows the 21 day hold policy fucking speculation?? Its FACT fuck nuts - furthermore, I havnt seen you contribute anything valuable to this thread except for being a naysmith - maby comments with a bit more substance and a bit less pompus flair next time 
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Originally Posted by cold_sweat You've totally derailed my original point here, which was you cant run with the cash without a decent amount of buyer feedback, no matter how deluded you are. Stop sitting there trying to discredit everything Im saying, Its completely relevant. | It's not relevant at all.
Based on the very link YOU PROVIDED, buyer feedback has absolutely no bearing on whether or not you can complete the transaction - except in very rare cases where paypal (not ebay) decides that the transaction presents too much risk. Quote:
Originally Posted by cold_sweat It being paypals or ebays 21 day hold still means theres a hold. I have personally experienced this until my account had over 25 feedback, I couldnt even sell items over 30 quid without waiting. | Wrong.
As any four year old can tell you, there's a big difference between "ebay rules" and "paypal rules".
Simply, the transaction can continue without paypal's involvement if the need arises.
Secondly - first you say that you "think you need feedback over 25 before you can sell expensive items". Now you're claiming that this restriction has actually been enforced in your case? BS kid. Note for the future: changing your story makes you look like you're lying. Quote:
Originally Posted by cold_sweat As soon as I saw your comment, I knew I wouldt be able to properly talk to you which is a shame. | Boo hoo. Quote:
Originally Posted by cold_sweat I mean common, speculation? Hows the 21 day hold policy fucking speculation?? | It's either speculation or illiteracy, you're welcome to choose which. Quote:
Originally Posted by cold_sweat Why arnt you apologizing for that comment?? | Because I wasn't wrong - I'm still not by the way.
You claimed that ebay had a feedback rule for high priced items - as I pointed out already, ebay has no rules even remotely similar to the one you claimed; and whether or not the rule was ebay's decided whether or not the scam was functional.
Secondly, it isn't a rule at all - as it can be exercised at paypal's discreation, but it isn't automatically put into use, meaning that it's effect will be minimal. Quote:
Originally Posted by cold_sweat . . . furthermore, I havnt seen you contribute anything to this thread except for being a naysmith, maby comments with a bit more substance and a bit less pompus flair next time | Since this is the third or fourth ebay scam thread - no I didn't feel a need to put alot of effort into this one; but frankly kid, I contributed more to this site in a week than you will by the time you get kicked off.
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Thats one lengthy post, not interested..
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Originally Posted by cold_sweat Thats one lengthy post, not interested.. | And therein lies the problem.
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Apparently you're not the first one to think this up:
h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJDK6ctRjqw
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No ones 's comments/posts has even come anywhere close to being relevant to the original question regarding my interest in working with someone to make some money through eBay.
People who sit and post meaningless squabble on forums such as the many people on this very thread who have done nothing but avert the main and probable question that was originally asked, need to prove that their not only obtaining their use of a computer as well as the house that they live in from their parents like some disgraceful delinquent, but you also need to prove that you can properly utilize compete control over your brain and use it to successfully to complete a simple task such as answering a question. I am very interested in hearing from anyone who would like to work with me and make some, if not a substantial amount of money by completing this scam.
Anyone who posts a comment picking out mistakes,(speaking primarily to shetlan) or disregarding my incomplex instructions on not posting pointless, trivial garbage would just be proving my point made in the above body of text.
Again, Thank you for your help and interest in working together on this. | | | | |
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Originally Posted by nightshade877 Anyone who posts a comment picking out mistakes,(speaking primarily to shetlan) or disregarding my incomplex instructions on not posting pointless, trivial garbage would just be proving my point made in the above body of text. | First off kid, this is an open forum and we can post whatever we like, so long as it relates to the subject at hand. Any "instructions" you give for posting are entirely irrelevant.
Now onto your actual post.
You didn't ask any questions, your post was entirely an attempt to recruit members of the site to help you in a criminal enterprise - which is explicitly against the forum rules.
You're entire problem was being unable to overcome the problem of registering multiple accounts under the same name and address. If you can't figure out how to overcome this issue on your own - I can't image anyone worth working with to be interested in helping you.
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Hahaha, thank you so much for proving my point in my previous post and showing everyone who reads this that you truly are a juvenile delinquent who lives with his parents. Honestly, thank you. Don't make the mistake of replying to this and once again proving that you are a worthless failure who seeks to pick fights over the internet only because you are a coward in true form, and aren't capable of facing an individual in person. And by the way, that wasn't my problem at all. You really are pitiful. We'll see if you decide to show everyone if you really are as I described you. Hahaha. Thank you all for your comments and help. I sincerely appreciate it.
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