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this idea of killing animals painlessly is just silly. in the wild, will a pig care about a lambs felling and try to kill it painlessly? No! I have a problem with people being cruel to animals for no reason, but i don't care how they are killed. i care how they are treated when they are alive.
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08-19-2008, 11:12 AM
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this idea of killing animals painlessly is just silly. in the wild, will a pig care about a lambs felling and try to kill it painlessly? No! I have a problem with people being cruel to animals for no reason, but i don't care how they are killed. i care how they are treated when they are alive.
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You freakin idiot you just contradicted yourself in bold, a Oxymoron?
(In bold and underlined) Well in that case mate you do have a problem with how they are killed.
Are they not alive through out the torture until that last shudder,breath and heartbeat?
That means they are being treated cruelly whilst alive.
(Italics) Why bash and abuse your food? why not kill it quickly so you can eat faster?
One more thing didn't your parents ever tell you not to play with your food?
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08-20-2008, 06:39 AM
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Iv always found the meat tastes better when it has been killed with a knife than quickly with a gun. dead is a very small portion of live, a bit of pain then does not matter. would you rather have a happy free life and be killed painfully, or a horrible life and be killed quickly?
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08-20-2008, 07:35 AM
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Thats not what you said!
So if we blindfolded you and gave you two steaks you would be able to tell the difference between a knife kill and a bullet?
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08-20-2008, 11:19 AM
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I believe that the more stress the animal in in before it dies the more bitter the meat due to adrenaline being released.
I don't support cruelty to animals, it's not necessary, there is no justification. I want my meat killed quick and clean.
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08-20-2008, 11:41 AM
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Ah i just remembered something from the melbourne show.
If a animal is stressed before it dies the meat turns dark,stringy and is as steve said more bitter. Thats how you can tell if some cattle transporters abuse the animals or treat them cruelly. These steers are pampered beyond belief before being handed over after parading and the carcass score will reveal this.
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08-21-2008, 09:36 PM
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yes i could tell the difference ( if it was pig)
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well the reason people dont cut the heads off of chickens is they run around and that spoils the meat. terrorizing dogs would do the same thing. i guess. but that is sick i could not do it.
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We're above animals in the food chain, we hunt eat and kill them, simple as.
Fair enough respect them but don't treat them as if they're better than humans for fuck sake.
How they're killed doesn't bother me as long as I get my food, just like other animals don't care how they're killed just as long as they get to eat.
Call me ignorant but I just don't care.
I don't agree to animal cruelty for no reason at all or to take anger out on, but when it comes to food I don't give a fuck, we're above them.
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Im all for animal rights groups just not when they take it to far. Like some PETA members who think all hunters should die and go to hell. Hunting is fine as long as its fair chase and a clean kill or as clean as possible. Hinters help animals by controling population, and most of the time if a real hunter (like me) hears about a poacher, we will find him and we will take care of him. I dont put up with people I let hunt my land if they leave trash of mess anything up I go off on em. I like happy animals and clean land.
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I would still like to hear some of your thoughts on animal testing ladies and gents!
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If your being logical, then no, animals dont have rights. Emotional? Then yes they are living creautures with souls.
Unwarranted cruelty by anyone for any reason is wrong in both trains of thought
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Im torn on the testing thing. we should be thinking about our species above all others, but that doesn't mean that we can do all that testing on them
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Humans are at the top of the food chain, and shouldn't be concerned about lower species. "Animal cruelty" was completely fabricated by hippies who like cute little puppies.
I fucking hate it when people say to me "how would you like it if you were a cow and tortured and eaten?" Some people do not seem to realize that I am not, and will never be, livestock.
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Humans are at the top of the food chain, and shouldn't be concerned about lower species. "Animal cruelty" was completely fabricated by hippies who like cute little puppies.
I fucking hate it when people say to me "how would you like it if you were a cow and tortured and eaten?" Some people do not seem to realize that I am not, and will never be, livestock.
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You don't know that. What if reincarnation is how it works and next life you are a cow that some asshole decides to fuck then ritually mutilate while you/it is still alive. And if we aren't concerned with lower species then free for all hunting? Because then the world be end considerably sooner since people would decimate all species for survival, such as food or selling leather/trophies, or just for the fuck/fun of killing something else. The way that you talk seems like you are just an ignorant shit and if the you had any power ever, the world would be fucked.
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I was about to say that. ^^^^^^^^
Animals have feelings too. If I had godly power, i would make sure you were reincarnated as a cow. And not ANYWHERE near India.
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Humans are at the top of the food chain, and shouldn't be concerned about lower species. "Animal cruelty" was completely fabricated by hippies who like cute little puppies.
I fucking hate it when people say to me "how would you like it if you were a cow and tortured and eaten?" Some people do not seem to realize that I am not, and will never be, livestock.
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YEAH!
Or when people say "how would you like it if you were a cow and got a dick stuck in your ass?"
Which brings onto veggies; I don't mind them but don't fucking bitch about what I want to eat.
As I previously said it's not right to harm domestic animals such as dogs, cats and other household pets just for the sake of it, when food is concerned I couldn't give a fuck if they're "tortured" though.
Coming on to animal testing; meh we're above them, we're not about to have a ton of people being tested on and suing people for a REALLY REALLY bad rash, whether anyone likes it or not animals will always be tested on before humans. It's laughable to say the animal has no choice in the matter over being tested, WE ARE ABOVE THEM YOU FUCKING MONGS, they're not gonna be treated equally to humans, EVER.
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As I previously said it's not right to harm domestic animals such as dogs, cats and other household pets just for the sake of it, when food is concerned I couldn't give a fuck if they're "tortured" though.
Coming on to animal testing; meh we're above them, we're not about to have a ton of people being tested on and suing people for a REALLY REALLY bad rash, whether anyone likes it or not animals will always be tested on before humans. It's laughable to say the animal has no choice in the matter over being tested, WE ARE ABOVE THEM YOU FUCKING MONGS, they're not gonna be treated equally to humans, EVER.
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They don't have to treated equally, it's not like I want a cow elected as my congressman(although the yippies did nominate a pig in '68 or '72), but they should be treated with respect.
And what is the difference between a domestic animal and livestock, why should they be treated any differently?
Why are homo sapiens above animals?
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I'll admit it you stumped me on the livestock and domestic argument.
Kill em all.
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A domestic animal is taught and bread to trust humans. Livestock fear and do not trust humans out of instinct. It seems worse to harm something that trusts you. Livestock are stupid, untrusting, product.
I say chop them up quickly if you can without abusing them. Just dont throw the term "abuse" around so loosely with live stock waiting to be processed.
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