Paedophilia

[dellio]

Lmao seriuosly ok over you lifespan youve had twise as much pussy than me or vallen put together, but your what 40 50 years old, more than 3 times our age you seem like an egotistacal liar robding, but dont worry about it its just a stage we all go through it some a little longer than others.

Yes girls fuck older guys i.e. a 14 yearold girl 16 yearold guy, 18 yearold girl 22 yearold guy. Those are completley possible a 16 yearold girl IS NOT gonna jump on fat old 40 yearold perv whos jakin it to pedo porn and fuck his dick. If you want i can go round school and take a survey if ya want.

A older year of consent well i would say 21 if it had to happen but they would have to raise the age that you can join the millatary to 21 to to be at all fair, and lower the age to drink to 18.

[~*PhBs*~]

ok im fifteen and believe the age limit should be fourteen but as alot of you have said people mature at different ages, but that does not stop your motherly instincts and love for your child kicking in but you have to take the financial side of it into account too.

as for the whole 16 year old girl and 40 yar old man thing, i think it would be more irresponsible for the man to have the sex than the girl since hes the older one (and he should be shot) . Any :shock: ways why is the girl always the younger one in all these examples?

Is Cre8tor serious that furhersoulcollectors banned?! :shock: +

[headcase]

Yeah, he was banned. We couldn't see him being much of a contributor to the forums.

Moving right along, I no longer care what people's opinions are on what the age of consent should be. Like I said, the average age here is 15 and no one is going to suggest an age older then themselves so any debate is meaningless. The question might as well be "what age were you last year?".

The next topic of discussion (until I think of a better one), is why the age of consent should be lowered/raised/left as it is. How will it benefit society? What's wrong with the current level?

I'll have to start deleting posts that continue talking about nothing now, by the way.

[A Toxicated Mind]

For america, the age is 18. I think it should be left alone. It would benefit society, because there arent as many non wanted babies. Now dont get me wrong im not saying 38 year olds dont become pregnet[sp] if the dont want to, but they have more life experience in most cases, better jobs and more than likely a stable relation ships, more often than 15-18 year olds.

[paininvmuthafuckinass]

Okay, I think I should say some opinions of my own in here; having spoken to both child predators and genuine paedophiles online I've been able to get into their mindset and see their reasoning behind what they do (notice there is a difference between predators and paedophiles).

A predator is a sick fuck just for the sake of it, they just want their leg over, will resort to rape to get it sometimes as well. But having said that I'll say that a rapist is a rapist/predator despite what the age of the victim is; just because therapist chooses a younger victim does not make him a paedo.

A paedophile is someone who is attracted to young girls in a loving way, not always sexual. They think of the child too, and not just their own pleasure. There are few genuine paedophiles who engage in sex because of this reason as well, because of the partner not being fully developed and leading to physical pain (if you've ever seen CP whether it be "accidental" on limewire or because you were curious then you'll notice that in quiet a few vids the sound is dubbed/muted...guess why). Paedophiles look out for the wel-fare of the child an have genuine care for them... and have a relationship based on love for the child.

Reason paedophila is looked down on so much is because of the media and a suppressing society which the government is partly to blame for (I'm not trying to go Mr. Anarchist at all BTW). A story about a genuine paedo wouldn't make "interesting" news, so they only show the rapists/predators and other various sick fucks, like Josef, swirl face and various other sickos.

As for my opinion on whether I think it's right or not, I'm nobody to judge anybody; everyone likes their freedom more than anything else, same applies to paedos and children.

As long as there is no harm done to the child physically or there is any forcement onto the child in anyway then I really don't see what is wrong if both parties are actually ready for sex with each other.

Also just another thing to add; 12-17 year olds wouldn't class as paedophilia, more ephebophilia, which has been proven to be a normal occurance in many male preferences, which means an attraction to adolecents...or jailbait.

[jrly]

Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster

pedophilia:
sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object

Pedophile is little kids not just girls. And sure if the kids aren't getting hurt it is fine because the older, creepy guy just likes the company of kids.

[tyrant]

having spoken to both child predators and genuine paedophiles online

Out of curiousity how did this come about?
Did they just so happen to 'come out of the closet' about it or did you actually venture out to speak to some predators/paedophiles?

I wouldnt know much but i think paininvmuthafuckinass has got it pretty much spot on.

Where i live girls dont excatly go looking around for sex. I'd say most people doing it are over 16. IMO 14 is to young. At my school I look at 14 year olds and for the most part they're hardly developed... just little kids.. Im not much older but definitely alot more developed.

Paedophiles have been on the news alot as-of-late in Aus. A school principal and a teacher, -both paedophiles have killed themselves as opposed to being taken into custody. Scary shit if you think about, pedo's in our schools?

IMHO, if someone is a paedophile it's okay, as long as they dont go as far as actually raping/having sex with a child/infant. Being perverted isnt right but its the better option.

[paininvmuthafuckinass]

I used to "paedo"bait alot; and in my time I came across a lot of predators who were sex mad, and then after a few of these guys and fleecing them down for my own amusement and profit I came across one who was blatantly older (he looked about mid 30s when I saw his webcam as opposed to the previous ones who were early-late 20s), he made no inclinations about sex at all, rather more concerned about my welfare and wanting to look out for me.

At the time afterwards I still didn't really see much difference between the 2 groups until I started hanging around on 12chan for a little while and seeing some points they would raise up when there was a whole discussion regarding paedophilia, and having looked further into it and doing more experimenting with both group types some more and looking into the real definition of paedophilia I came to realise that the paedos were not the bad guys. In the end I stopped lying to one of the paedophiles and told him the truth and had a good discussion with him about it (after he'd had a rant at me for taking the piss). Real paedophiles on the net that are open about it are hard to find as opposed to a rapist/predator, that's because their sexual orientation is towards children, not adolescents, and it's very rare kids are on the net (I just managed to convince him cos I'd used my younger cousins pics and got a webcam recording of her while she was at my house and I used this vid with fake webcam...inb4sicko/werido...Cash and conincing him was the main priority, but I actually couldn't bring myself to take it off a GENUINE paedo).

If physical harm will be caused to the partner or the time is not yet right then they'll not engage in sex, some will engage in other sexual activities such as oral, but most of the item that is not the case either.

People honestly do think it's "taboo" or "wrong" because the law tells us it is.

Obviously the ones who fuck 0-7 year olds is still even questionable to me.

I say if kids are learning about sex and feel comfortable and ready for it then they should be allowed to, EVERYONE is entitled to their freedom and preferences (they started teaching us about sex in school when we were 9).

Where i live girls dont excatly go looking around for sex. I'd say most people doing it are over 16. IMO 14 is to young. At my school I look at 14 year olds and for the most part they're hardly developed... just little kids.. I'm not much older but definitely alot more developed.

Shit around where my home back in the UK is totally different; kids are having sex by the age of 12/13 years old...mainly because they're chavvy fuckers though.

I'll be honest and say myself that I'd always prefer a younger partner. In fact most of the time that's been the case with me, up until leaving school and getting out into the world myself.

Maybe if society wasn't as sexually oppressive towards peoples sexual orientations then there'd be a lot less harm done.

And before anyone says it, rape is not an orientation, it's a fetish.

[headcase]

Young children and mid-teens tend to be very impressionable, especially by older people whom they idolise. Nearly everyone has experienced an infatuation with a person which, psychologically, means you love your idea of them and not necessarily the person themselves. However, in the case of old man and young girls (or whatever combination you prefer), it's easy to take advantage of this weakness, which is magnified by their youth. Paedophiles really care for their targets? Yeah right. Looks like someone got taken advantage of. At best the paedophile themselves believed their own sob-story, but don't think for a second it was genuine. You could also bring in Freudian concepts of a daughters sexual love of their father and the transference of that love onto the older man. Whichever, the reasons for the laws is that children are easy to be taken advantage of whether it starts physically by rape or mentally with a "caring" paedophile (father figure).

[jrly]

Originally Posted by paininvmuthafuckinass

Maybe if society wasn't as sexually oppressive towards peoples sexual orientations then there'd be a lot less harm done.

"The cultures that don't castrate you to make you a slave, they castrate your mind. They make sex so filthy and evil and dangerous that no matter how good you know it would feel to have sexual relations, you won't."
-Chuck Palahniuk

I generally agree with headcase on this, but if the older guy/girl isn't hurting the kid, it should be ok, but as headcase said, little kids are very impressionable so I guess they could control the little kid very easily so that the kid would think it is alright if the older guy abuses them.

[iltopop]

Originally Posted by A Toxicated Mind

For america, the age is 18.

Incorrect, it varies by state, it is 16 in some states. I believe it was brought up to be changed to 14 in Georgia but not sure if that got anywhere.

Anyway, at the current topic, I believe 16 should be the age. I also feel this should be the age of majority period. I feel that, unless you have special conditions, you are either intelligent enough to know what your doing, and to be able to make mistakes and learn from them, and if at this point your not, you are probably not going to anyway. I know that this wouldn't work for all people, some people I'm sure are emotionally mature at much younger ages, and some still don't grow up till there 20's. Until, as a previous poster mentioned in a way, we start testing everyone for there ability to make sound sexual decisions, 16-18 is the best were gunna do.

Also, what is a correct sexual choice? According to who? What do we base correct sexual decision making off of?

[jrly]

A humans brain doesn't stop growing until the midtwenties, so maybe it should be then.

[paininvmuthafuckinass]

Originally Posted by jrly

A humans brain doesn't stop growing until the midtwenties, so maybe it should be then.

But people still make mistakes even then, it wouldn't make much of a difference other than possibly get more people into trouble. It'd get broken way too often.

[libertine]

First off, I had my first child at 14, so I am quite familiar with this topic on a personal level. Oh and for the record, I am 33 and female.

There so many more factors involved then mere legalities of a country that houses different types of people. There is no such thing as a one size fits all scenario, but people are entitled to their opinions of course. It just is not fact for everybody, only the individual who believes it.

Different Factors

1.Race//Culture/Ethnicity

2.Environment

3.Religion

4.Consensuality


Those four factors are key in this. Since, those determine how we see things, unless we are more strong-minded and do as we please. So saying everyone should abide by our rules or are way of thinking, is quite arrogant and self-righteous. Hell I found my first dirty mag in my parents bedroom at six, but already understood pleasure before then. As children, we actually learn a lot from playing which thus is experimenting. I like to think that as we get older, become adults, we develop a sort of amnesia when it comes to what we are ourselves got into at younger ages. I think it would be wise to keep that in mind when we come up with our 'ideals' of how things should be.

I do not condone molestation, which is nothing more than consistent rape through coercion. I believe if we focused more on those cases instead ones that are obviously consenual, we would cut a lot of the suffering time for those children in half! I was one of them too, so I have very unique opinion on this. I find it quite frustrating now and after it was over, that people always seem to be more interested in the relationships where there is no harm. So children like myself at the time, had to wait for assistance if any at all, because everyone found Little Mary falling in love with Bigger Jim, much more interesting.

What does all this have to do with the topic? A lot, since quite a few posts I read deal in regulating consensual adult/minor relations and not touching the fact that there should be more policies to help those minors who are dealing with the exact opposite.

[ANARCHYisKING]

this is an issue that should be nobody's business except the one's fucking each other.

[Steve_TPF]

Rubbish. Given the damage done to children through sexual contact, it is everyone's business.

[headcase]

Libertine, I don't think anyone here denies that rape and molestation are simply wrong. We're discussing the morally grey area of "consentual" relationships.

[Core Entropy]

Originally Posted by Cre8tor

You sick soul.... I am totally convinced that you have overstepped the boundaries around here, actually, why am I telling you this... you can't respond, you are banned for being one sick fuck and because you are a couple of feet short of a plank

maybe a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic

and definitely several brain cells short of an idiot

ROFL THATS AMAZING!!!

I believe that Pediophilia depends all on the choice of a person. Dont get caught and make sure the person your Having relations with is of an age where he/she knows what he/she is doing. Its all a human choice. And humans are riddled with filth.

[HarleyQuinn]

Pedophilia is wrong not only because its icky, but because children aren't emotionally capable of comprehending sex, it causes severe physcological problems. I know when I lost my virginity at 14 it fucked me up.