Paedophilia

[FuhrerSoulcollector]

Since Pain earlier posted about beastility, and homosexuality already been discussed, lets look at pedophilia. I for one believe if they have gone through puberty they are ripe for the picking. Any opinions?

[The Gein Configuration]

Humans are a sorry lot. We all filth the earth.

Sooner or later we'll eventually all go bye bye.

[FuhrerSoulcollector]

All becuz ur a sad person in need of a life, dont group the entire human popualtion into ur pathetic group der juten.

[The Gein Configuration]

Dude we all inhabit the same planet.

You're just a big fuckin contradiction

[Random]

Drop the insults and hostile exchanges.

Keep on topic.

[Steve_TPF]

To get back to the original topic, I believe that 16 is an appropriate age for sex, but with someone of a similar age. It would be inappropriate for a 40-year old to have a sexual relationship with a 16-year old.

Originally Posted by FuhrerSoulcollector

I for one believe if they have gone through puberty they are ripe for the picking. Any opinions?

I disagree. Some children go through puberty at 12 or younger, which is too young for such a descision.

[FuhrerSoulcollector]

Yeah I can swallow that. But why is it wrong for a 40 year old to have sex with a 16 year old? Explain it to me.

[dellio]

Im 14 and by now i know tons of things bout sex and the such most 14 year olds do, if anything there should be a test for being able to have consensuale sex it should test your knowledge of sex what happens when you have sex and your state of mind and if you pass your issued a license that says you can have consensuale sex.If you fail you must wait 1 year to take it again, personally i think that would be the best option right now. But hey thats just from my mind.

[FuhrerSoulcollector]

So if I adopt a child and teach her about sex by the age of 5 i can fuck her when she turns 6? Sounds like a plan...

[Cre8tor]

Originally Posted by FuhrerSoulcollector

So if I adopt a child and teach her about sex by the age of 5 i can fuck her when she turns 6? Sounds like a plan...

You sick soul.... I am totally convinced that you have overstepped the boundaries around here, actually, why am I telling you this... you can't respond, you are banned for being one sick fuck and because you are a couple of feet short of a plank

maybe a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic

and definitely several brain cells short of an idiot

[A Toxicated Mind]

I think he meant that sarcasticly. And he was saying that to Dellio's "sex liscenes" idea.
I dont know if he should of been banned. Just extreamly warned, and one more thing like that and he would be banned. Or didnt you say something to him in the general thread? im not sur eif it was him. You said something like "Your already on a radar and i havent even started yet." but stated better.
Anyway.

I think the age should be atleast 16. Mainly because many people have already had sex by that age and have alot of it.
There could be age areas. Like a 16-21 21 and up.

[Paranoid Ecstasy]

Originally Posted by A Toxicated Mind

I think the age should be atleast 16. Mainly because many people have already had sex by that age and have alot of it.
There could be age areas. Like a 16-21 21 and up.

I agree that's probably the best choice.
But there has to be more specific rules.
Like now it's 18 is legal but sometimes your 18 your girl friends 16 and you can be charged as a sexual predator. I believe down here in Florida it's if your 18 you can have sex with someone 3 years younger. It also works if your 19 and they're 16 and so on.

There are people who I think just should not have sex.
They aren't mentally mature enough which is why having sex with a 16 year old girl (or boy) and your 40 is completely wrong.
Some teens "fall in love" with older men because they think they are more mature when they themselfs are not mature enough.

Alot of teens should not be having sex because they just aren't ready to deal with the responsibility. Even some older men are not ready to handle it.

[Steve_TPF]

Originally Posted by FuhrerSoulcollector

Yeah I can swallow that. But why is it wrong for a 40 year old to have sex with a 16 year old? Explain it to me.

As Paranoid said, the different levels of maturity have a lot to do with the question of relative age. An experienced older person may find it easy to manipulate a 16-year old into sex that they aren't ready for. I didn't say it was wrong, just inappropriate. A relationship with someone the same age puts you on moe equal ground.

I agree with Toxicated that age areas are a good idea. Paranoid is also right when he says that some people are never mature enough for sex.

[db]

Yeah I can swallow that. But why is it wrong for a 40 year old to have sex with a 16 year old? Explain it to me.

Feel like banging my 56 year old mother?

[Ejamucated]

Ehem...

The age of consent, I believe, should be seventeen. Unfortunately, that's not an option, so I chose eighteen.

I agree with Florida's law (if it's a law, I don't live there so I don't know and I can't be fucked to look it up) that you can have sex with someone whose age is within three years of your own. Makes sense.

If a forty year old man or woman wants to have sex with someone who's sixteen... well, they've just got to wait a year (assuming that seventeen is the legal age of consent). How many people do you know who would still want to fuck an older person after a year of waiting?

I almost hate myself as I'm writing this... what right does the government have to tell people what they can and can't do with their personal lives?

[Steve_TPF]

In this case it's mainly to protect children from sexual predators. If there were no legal age of consent then sex would be permissable at any age. Do you really want 12 year-olds having sex with older men? I don't.

[db]

Exactly what Steve said, plus I don't want to be supporting their children since most 12 year olds can't support themselves let alone a child.

[A Toxicated Mind]

Yeah, i didnt even think about the fact of being able to support the child.

[Ejamucated]

Originally Posted by Steve_TPF

In this case it's mainly to protect children from sexual predators. If there were no legal age of consent then sex would be permissable at any age. Do you really want 12 year-olds having sex with older men? I don't.

Don't think I don't agree with you... 'cause I do.

But here's a case in which the gov't is doing something to protect us from ourselves. That's the same logic behind drugs and fireworks prohibition.

That always irks me.

IMHO, the gov't is there to punish those who do me wrong. I.e., steal from me, kill me, etc. Violate my rights. But shouldn't I be able to DECIDE to do something that's bad for me? Like eat nothing but fast food. As long as I don't hurt anyone else, I should be able to do what I want.

So if I'm a 14 year old girl, and I want to have sex with an older man... why shouldn't I be able to?

Now, you can argue that a 12 does not have the mental capacity to make those kinds of decisions. And that's a valid argument. But at what age do you decide to draw the line? It's arbitrary no matter how you look at it.

Then you've got the other point about the mother being able to support the child. Unfortunately, in our present society, the baby would probably be aborted. :cry: If he/she wasn't aborted, who would be better supported? A baby that is supported by two 16 year olds, or a baby supported by a 40 year old father?

[Steve_TPF]

I see your point re. drugs and fireworks. I think the latter should be legal, as they are almost completely safe when used properly. It's been years since I was able to buy fireworks, they were fun. People who use them irresponsibly or dangerously however, should be dealt with under the law.

I feel that personal drug use should be decriminalised for adults. As long as you don't harm anyone else, or steal to support your habit, why should anyone care? I have smoked dope for over 10 years, I work, pay my taxes etc, and my habit doesn't affect anyone else.

Originally Posted by Ejamucated

IMHO, the gov't is there to punish those who do me wrong. I.e., steal from me, kill me, etc. Violate my rights. But shouldn't I be able to DECIDE to do something that's bad for me? Like eat nothing but fast food. As long as I don't hurt anyone else, I should be able to do what I want.

I agree. The only exceptions are when you start to become a burden on the health system because of your junk-food diet. Self-inflicted conditions should recieve lower priority than natural illness, or injury. That goes for me too - if I get lung cancer it's my own fault. I can't expect any sympathy, and if medical resources are limited then I should get lower priority.

Originally Posted by Ejamucated

So if I'm a 14 year old girl, and I want to have sex with an older man... why shouldn't I be able to?

Now, you can argue that a 12 does not have the mental capacity to make those kinds of decisions. And that's a valid argument. But at what age do you decide to draw the line? It's arbitrary no matter how you look at it.

Yes it is. A line has to be drawn somewhere however, as with alcohol. Being 18 doesn't mean you will be able to handle its effects, but as a legal adult you can be held responsible for your actions.
Everyone matures at a different rate, but unless you want to go for the "sex license" idea, (and who exactly is going to get a license before they have sex?), a one-rule-for-all is the only practical solution.
That and more sex education in schools. Like driving, they are going to do it sooner or later. Better if they are informed.

Originally Posted by Ejamucated

Then you've got the other point about the mother being able to support the child. Unfortunately, in our present society, the baby would probably be aborted. If he/she wasn't aborted, who would be better supported? A baby that is supported by two 16 year olds, or a baby supported by a 40 year old father?

A good point. If the parents were 16 they would most likely be eligible for government support. It would be difficult for them though. A 40 year-old could make a better parent, but there's no guarantee, even if he decides to stick around.
Don't think I'm dismissing your argument. Your examples highlight the fact that all situations are different. What is good for one person may not suit another.

IMHO the fact that young teenagers are less able to deal with the consequences of sex is a good enough reason to put the age of consent at 16, though this doesn't mean they should do it immediately on reaching that age.

It's worth noting that children get their impressions of sex from various sources. Parents, friends and media. Parents need to educate their children, the media should not pitch sex to children, and friends should STFU about what they don't know.

I think that you and I are basically in agreement here. Yes, laws tend to be restrictive when it comes to "protecting" us. In some cases I agree, in some I don't.