Could god be a self fulling prophecy robot?

[imajenius]

Think about it, if mankind creates a robot or a AI smarter then us, then it can make AI smarter then it, and so on. Until this AI reaches a point where It should reach close to if not complete god like status. But to ensure its existence it must go back in time to make sure the universe is created for it to exist in.

This is just a thought.

[headcase]

No need to post your thread more then once. It did actually post, there's just a glitch at the moment that causes it not to appear for a while.

As for you're theory itself, it's been widely discussed under the title of the "Technological Singularity".

The question mark is over your final statement;

Originally Posted by imajenius

But to ensure its existence it must go back in time to make sure the universe is created for it to exist in.

I don't see why this is necessary or what it would achieve?

[Mauler3050]

Well, the idea of it achieving God like status I think is a bit out of proportion. But the idea of creating something more intelligent than us is not far off. Whether the idea of what we create can make things greater than itself is another maybe. I think in just the 21st century we will start to see kinds of AI that was never dreamed.

However I am sure that if we did create such marvels of technology, that in all eventuality it would see our inefficiencies and destroy us and whatever else is not needed.

As far as the whole time travel thing is concerned, achieving the speed of light is impossible by anything with mass, for the acceleration will cause it to crush and implode on it's own mass. And still, assuming that it does achieve this massless state, and accelerates to the speed of light, it will actually have to accelerate faster than the speed of light, as to see the light that has appeared prior. And it would be destroyed while going back past it's creation hypothetically. Also, the purpose of time travel doesn't even seem very plausible.

Sorry if I am in error with my talk of time travel. I only remember brief recollections of some of Hawkings works, to which I credit any of that information concerning time travel.

[Grikovien]

We can only create something as smart as those who have built it, you can't make something that knows more than the one who created it.

Otherwise it would be like an infant teaching its parents physics.


Unless the machine or whatever learns on its own.

[headcase]

Computers have long been able to run complex calculations at speeds unimaginable to the human mind. Of course, "intelligence" is a complicated subject itself but unless someone can suggest a stumbling point of the Technological Singularity theory?

[Grikovien]

Originally Posted by headcase

Computers have long been able to run complex calculations at speeds unimaginable to the human mind. Of course, "intelligence" is a complicated subject itself but unless someone can suggest a stumbling point of the Technological Singularity theory?

The people who made the computer put in the calculation and told the computer how to solve it. Running the calculation at high speeds is different from the computer learning how to do the calculation itself.
If I can write 2+2=4 on a piece of paper faster than you can doesn't mean I'm smarter than you.

[S7@1T3D]

Whats the word, i believe its Logic.
A computer can Calculate but it cant work out a non-mathematical problem.

[S7@1T3D]

Whats the word, i believe its Logic.
A computer can Calculate but it cant work out a non-mathematical problem.

[sacrednines]

Originally Posted by Mauler3050

However I am sure that if we did create such marvels of technology, that in all eventuality it would see our inefficiencies and destroy us and whatever else is not needed.

Why? We have purposefully waged no such genocide against the forms of life in our own genealogy. I don't see any real evidence for our evolutionary successors to be anything but benevolent toward us, or at the least, indifferent. If the ultra-intelligent machine is as inequitably as superior as we suspect it will be, then it wouldn't feel threatened by such a primitive intellect as ourselves.

Besides, There's a rather optimistic thoery that we will become the ultra-intelligent machines, via consciousness transplants and gradual cyber evolution. If we want to get technical about it, its much more likely that our biology will evolve to cyber-biology and then to complete biological independence altogether... but I suppose its not that unlikely that we'll create a self-replicating and improving AI separate from our own intentions. In which case, you have to wonder weather our purpose is to proliferate biology... or eventually relinquish our dominion and allow the natural process of evolution to trump it... (as if it wouldn't do so without our consent, ha)

Originally Posted by S7@1T3D

Whats the word, i believe its Logic.
A computer can Calculate but it cant work out a non-mathematical problem.

Thus far... but eventually... not to mention it can be argued that all problems have a mathematical-linguistic translation anyway.