Energy~Some thoughts and facts.

[MuteProphet]

Ok, I've been tossing this idea/rant/random compilation of thoughts around in my head for roughly a year now.

Energy:

Let's start with temperature and it's relation to energy and the movement of energy.

If you took chemistry or advanced science, you know about absolute zero.
Absolute zero is the absolute lowest temperature that any substance can reach. At absolute zero, atoms can travel along the cold medium with out any friction or loss of momentum. To explain it the way my chem teacher did:

The reason we have to pay so much for electricity is that it requires excess energy to move the energy along the lines. therefor we're paying extra for the energy that went to waste moving the energy to your house. But if the wire that the energy traveled along was at Absolute Zero in temperature, there would be no energy going to waste trying to move other energy, and also the energy would arrive at it's destination in much less time. Now, let's continue the temperature side of this.

If absolute zero cools materials and makes energy move easier, then higher temps would...wait, i'm getting ahead of myself.

What makes the human body warm? It's the atoms in the air hitting our bodies at a high rate. The more heat that's transferred into the air/atmosphere, the faster the atoms move, thus the hotter we get. So obviously the slower things move, the colder it gets. There, that part's done.

Now let's say you take a look at E=mc2, where m is mass and c is speed of light. E=energy in this equation. Since it's not possible for m to equal negative mass, then you come to the conclusion that E will always equal a positive number, which will always come out to a weight of mass. Therefore, everything is E or energy. Everything.

Going on all the above mentioned, let's look at a cigarette.

The unlit cigarette consist of Tobacco, Paper, and a Filter. All of these things are composed of energy. I believe one of Newton's laws, or someone's, can't remember who right now, says that when a chemical reaction takes place, all of the energy still exist, but it may be in different forms. It says that no energy can ever be destroyed. This will later on lead to a post about the possibilities of reincarnation, but for now, back to the cigarette.

Accepting that the cigarette is indeed made of energy, and that extreme cold will stop energy, whereas extreme heat will release it, one can see that when the cigarette is lit, the tobacco and paper at the end are undergoing a chemical reaction. As the law states, energy is never lost, but may change forms during a reaction. One can agree that heat being applied initiates the reaction and that the smoke from the end of the cigarette is indeed the tobacco and paper, or energy, in a different form.

That pretty much concludes this rant. No real point to it, just had to type it out and get it out of my head. Thanks for the read,

Mute Prophet

[hamster dood]

Originally Posted by MuteProphet

What makes the human body warm? It's the atoms in the air hitting our bodies at a high rate. The more heat that's transferred into the air/atmosphere, the faster the atoms move, thus the hotter we get. So obviously the slower things move, the colder it gets. There, that part's done.

I don't understand this part that well. I thought the human body makes heat? If the air made the body warm, then what is to stop a human-sized object from becoming the same temperature as us? Right now I'm thinking that you're talking about cold-blooded animals, the ones that cannot generate heat by themselves, like reptiles. I don't know if I'm correct, though this is just what I think I learned a while ago..

[Random]

Originally Posted by hamster dood

I thought the human body makes heat?

It does. Heat is generated by the body's various chemical reactions (and there are many).

[Steve_TPF]

Originally Posted by MuteProphet

At absolute zero, atoms can travel along the cold medium with out any friction or loss of momentum.

I believe you mean electrons moving through a conductor. Different thing.

Originally Posted by MuteProphet

The reason we have to pay so much for electricity is that it requires excess energy to move the energy along the lines. therefor we're paying extra for the energy that went to waste moving the energy to your house. But if the wire that the energy traveled along was at Absolute Zero in temperature, there would be no energy going to waste trying to move other energy, and also the energy would arrive at it's destination in much less time.

A conductor with no resistance would improve efficiency, yes. The speed of conduction is irrelevant though. Electrons "push" each other through a conductor: once a current is applied it emerges at the other end at almost the same instant. The chief drawback to superconductors is the requirement to keep them cold. This is impractical for power lines, and requires large amounts of energy to do - negating any advantage.

Originally Posted by MuteProphet

What makes the human body warm? It's the atoms in the air hitting our bodies at a high rate. The more heat that's transferred into the air/atmosphere, the faster the atoms move, thus the hotter we get. So obviously the slower things move, the colder it gets. There, that part's done.

No. The body produces its own heat, as Random mentioned. As for. "the slower things move, the colder it gets", you seem somewhat confused.

You are correct in saying energy is not destroyed, only transferred. A cigarette has chemical potential energy, some of which is released on burning. Most of it becomes smoke or ash.

Not sure what you were trying to achieve with all this. I'd reccomend you take another look at your physics books though.

[jrly]

Originally Posted by MuteProphet

At absolute zero, atoms can travel along the cold medium with out any friction or loss of momentum.

No. At absolute zero objects stop moving, at least theoretically seeing as absolute zero has never been reached which I don't understand as seeing as when something gets farther from a sun it gets colder so when something gets far enough away shouldn't it get that cold. But anyway, a lot of physicist, or chemists or whoever, theorize that once an atom reaches absolute zero it will explode or implode and that is also what possibily caused the Big Bang.

[Steve_TPF]

Wiki has an article on absolute zero.

[headcase]

It's also worth noting that Absolute Zero is a theoretical temperature. It's impossible to actually achieve.

I like these brain storms though. This one was a bit off the mark when it came to accuracy, but then again, I bet mine were too. It's just we don't have any accomplished cosmologists to correct me.

[pyromainiac420]

"one can see that when the cigarette is lit, the tobacco and paper at the end are undergoing a chemical reaction"-----> This is called an incomplete combustion reaction.

"As the law states, energy is never lost, but may change forms during a reaction. One can agree that heat being applied initiates the reaction and that the smoke from the end of the cigarette is indeed the tobacco and paper, or energy, in a different form. "

As for what is happening to energy, the particle theory stats that particles are always in motion. Now tobacco and paper are solids so they would have vibrational energy, once going through the reaction vibrational energy is turned into heat energy..I think. Or once the reactants become the products some stay as carbon and continue vibrational and some become gas and then have vibrational rotational and translational energy. The smoke from the end of the cigarette is a a few elements that are bi-products of an incompete combustion.

[pyro2008]

Not to dis you or anything, I've had these 'rants' too before, but the point is to have what is incorrect corrected right? anyways...

Now let's say you take a look at E=mc2, where m is mass and c is speed of light. E=energy in this equation. Since it's not possible for m to equal negative mass, then you come to the conclusion that E will always equal a positive number, which will always come out to a weight of mass. Therefore, everything is E or energy. Everything.

Everything is not energy. Everything could be energy, but only through nuclear reactions. While we're on E=mc2, why can't there be negative mass and energy? and why is the speed of light the maximum speed obtainable? And, if everything is relative, speed is not provable, thus the speed of light is moot anyways. (even if nothing can move faster than 'c', I could have an indefinitely small point in space and two bodies moving away from this point, each at 75% the speed of light (2.25 x 10^8 meters per second). Now, standing on one of the given bodies and observing the other, it will appear to be moving away at 150% the speed of light (4.5 x 10^8 m/s). This should be impossible according to the theory of Relativity, anyone care to explain?)

Accepting that the cigarette is indeed made of energy, and that extreme cold will stop energy, whereas extreme heat will release it, one can see that when the cigarette is lit, the tobacco and paper at the end are undergoing a chemical reaction. As the law states, energy is never lost, but may change forms during a reaction. One can agree that heat being applied initiates the reaction and that the smoke from the end of the cigarette is indeed the tobacco and paper, or energy, in a different form.

Given energy (in the cigarette) will stay energy in some form (heat, light, sound, potential, chemical, kinetic...) and given mass (in the cigarette) will stay mass in some form (solid, liquid, gas) This is the difference between Chemical and Nuclear reactions (in chemical reactions, above stated facts stay true) (In Nuclear reactions, some mass turns into energy or energy can turn into mass, in which case the above facts do not hold true, but lighting a cigarette is not a nuclear reaction (or smoking really would be bad for you lol)).