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04-10-2008, 10:17 AM
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Mod Edit; While this guy seems to brush aside the paradoxical union of God's omniscience and omnipotence (the rock he cannot lift), the question he puts forward seems fairly shallow. So, this thread now concerns that apparent paradox. The first few replies were made before this edit.
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Without taking into account the issue of establishing a stone by God, which he won't be able to pick up, how do you think, may be something in this world, what can God never see? |
04-10-2008, 01:01 PM
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What you have typed is very unclear.
I believe you are referring to "God" creating a stone that even he/she can't pick up.
Then you are asking if there is something could couldn't see.
This is of course assuming there is a god.
If "God" had created us and is all unknowing and all seeing, then yes there is nothing it could not see. Assuming it created everything, it would have created the non-seeable thing anyways.
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04-10-2008, 09:51 PM
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god doesn't exist.
Wrong section to post in. |
04-12-2008, 01:46 AM
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you would probobly have to go to hell to hide from god. |
04-12-2008, 07:22 PM
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Apart from the fact that this is probably spam, the topic itself seems fairly hollow. Anyone want to stand out from the crowd and spot some worthwhile theme? |
04-13-2008, 10:09 PM
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what i think he is trying to say is that the two quality's of "god"
are in paradox with each other
omnipotence (ability to do everything)
and his/her/it's omniscience ( ability to know everything)
because god could use his omnipotence to beat his own omniscience
i think however that a god who could do everything WOULDN't use it to prove himself wrong
that sounded a bit know it all but thats just what i think
PS: I am an atheist but i enjoy theology |
04-13-2008, 10:38 PM
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Ok, so this thread will discuss that apparent paradox.
But isn't the belief that you can constrain God's abilities by human logic fairly arrogant? A repeat of origional sin even; that we can know the mind of God. That our reality, our laws of logic and physics, are the same as applies to God?
(Keep in mind that this is not an arguement for or against the existence of God. It's simply an intellectual exercise). |
04-22-2008, 02:36 AM
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things god has never seen:
1) a person who has not sinned.
2) a person he cannot save.
3) a person he dose not love. |
04-22-2008, 06:39 AM
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I like the 1st one lol.
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04-29-2008, 01:50 PM
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God does not see, period.
He senses, youd need ocular sensory organs to see, and a brain to process. He simply knows because it is.
Not being a smartass, he probably doesn't see what hasn't happened, sort of like every action has a reaction, and every reaction has a possibility to do anything. I.E. You are driving down the road, you stop at a red light. A car rear ends you. Although the outcome is evident, other possible outcomes are unforeseeable. I think it is a property known as nuclear dynamics, er something or other. It simply means that some functions are so random that it is impossible to predict.
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heres a couple of quick theories ive been thinking about, im an atheist but im not trying to crticize anyones religion:
I belevie the possiblity that god wants to help earth and his children, but is unable to actiully affect wat he created,but still has knowledge of his created universe, almost if hes on a diffrent plane of reality.
Some ppl beleive god is the perfect form that anything can exist, so if god is perfect, how can he create something that isnt, and if he can , an we arnt perfect, our minds cant comprehend perfection, so why bother worshipping something un-comprehendible?
Another is the deist theory, god created the universe , an leaves it alone.
Instead of making judgments on ones actions, god passes judgements on wat dweles in a persons heart an mind, so if a person grows up poor, commits crimes to bring him/herself out of poverty, but is a truly good person, they will go to heaven.But for the victims is thier own story, that god has the missing part of thier stiry, an no one else will ever be aware of.
My last one is there have been so many diffrent ideas on creation and religion, mankind might not be able to find a true "creating entity".  |  | |
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