Emotional/mental training

[LizzyReikoZ]

Say you need to do something hard, like killing someone. You won't be able to do so properly unless you learn to let go of emotions and morals. Even though this sounds retarded, my best advice was from star wars: learn to let go of all that you fear to lose.

Sometimes growing up without love or friendship has it's benefits.

[Core Entropy]

I feel sorry for the one who is risen up to be like this because someone in this state of mind without love will learn to love killing. My mental advice is if it is too hard, every day imagine yourself doing it. Build up that mental stability for at least a month and then go for it.

[LizzyReikoZ]

Hey, my parents were crazy. They wanted me to go into the army from when I was like 10 years old... but I do have to thank them for my almost complete lack of emotion now.

[SUSEJ]

If your skerd to kill your not insane, if you want to take away that fear, look at the inside pictures of the human body, medical pictures, look at patience of stds infections, disgusting obscene photos, of bloods, guts, real pics, not faked or doctored. And slowly youll lose that feeling of disgust. Do you have to kill, cant you just avoid, or taking control of yourself by taking action of what you want to do not what other try to make you do, control who you see, control the situation. Dont stoop or play anothers game.

[LizzyReikoZ]

Good advice SUSEJ, but horrific grammar. But looking at pictures can only do so much, and when you kill, you aren't just looking at a picture.

[AfroBandit]

Originally Posted by Core Entropy

I feel sorry for the one who is risen up to be like this because someone in this state of mind without love will learn to love killing. My mental advice is if it is too hard, every day imagine yourself doing it. Build up that mental stability for at least a month and then go for it.

someone like jason bourne...kinda


its easy to imagine dong it... for example i can bash someone senseless but i cant imagine killing them. breaking limbs and such isn't a problem for me but killing them is another story, i admire those who have that sought of metal toughness...

[General Grim]

The ability to kill is only gained through mental hardship or out of external influences. A person who has the lack of moral guidance by parents and has been ill-treated for most of his life will be more likely to kill than someone who's been born into a cushy life style. However, most of you do not know the meaning of a hard life, you just assume your life is hard and only think on the surface about what it means to remove another life.

The second reason why people are given the ability to kill are the external influences, external as in the influences caused by others which affect emotion. Examples of this are patriotism, loss of a loved one, self defence, and love of money. Influences that do not directly provoke strong emotions (loss, hatred) would still require a lot of mental preparation, coming to terms with what will need to be done and doing so swiftly to avoid reconsideration.

In any case, no one on this forum (with the possible exception of the soldiers) would have the capacity to knowingly kill someone. Even in the case of firing squads they would randomly give one man a blank cartridge because the mental pressures put on them afterwards would often corrupt them: they would all have a deluded sense of memory believing that the recoil was lower therefore they didn't kill the person. Some cases when the person being executed had done a horrendous crime all of the firing squad would deliberately miss regardless. So next time you go "Yeah, I can kill easy", just remember that even those who have seen the horrors of warfare still struggle to do that.

[Draven]

Killing is easy, you just do it...
You will either suffer nightmares and regret or you won't. If you get a high from muder you'll get a low, become depressed etc. Then it goes away...

[LizzyReikoZ]

I agree killing is easy, living with yourself afterwards is the hard part, along with staying cool while you're doing it so that no evidence is left behind.

[Skelton]

Its either in you or its not, I belive I can kill but I need a strong motive. But anyone can kill under enough external stress.

The second part is getting away with it. I can come up with endless ways but I wouldn't disucss them here given the nature of some people on this site.

[LadyMakayla]

Killing isn't easy for anyone, or shouldn't be. Hunting animals is one thing, but killing another person isn't right, unless its like in a war or in self defense, but you still have to live with it for the rest of your life.

[Core Entropy]

Killing is not easy. Unintentional it may be easy, but having a reason not due to anger is very hard to work with when coming to kill someone, because you are not working with human nature. To kill someone with no motive confuses our nature, which is what you need to learn emotionally and mentally to block out. It is a very hard, painstaking road to blocking our natural human nature which is why this thread is up, to show the truth about something of this attitude of which needs to be done through and over what we are originally purposed to do.

[LadyMakayla]

I'd have to bet that if anyone here just went out and killed someone, we wouldn't be able to think clearly enough to get away with it. I think that if someone knew in their heart that they had to kill someone, they would fund the emotional and mental strength to do so.

[DeathToSociety]

The only reason people would have any problem with killing someone is because all our life we've been fed propaganda about how horrible it is to do something like that, you see it all the time in movies, the hero has to kill someone then cries about it and has nightmares. People in our society take stuff like that in all their life so it becomes true to them.
But look outside our society, people are killing each other all the time, animals kill each other all the time and after all we are just animals. Every idea that we are above that or more civilized than that, is an illusion.

If killing really was such a horrible experience we would have world peace.

[General Grim]

Every idea that we are above that or more civilized than that, is an illusion.

When I see a dog do algebra, I'll believe that.

[Core Entropy]

Originally Posted by DeathToSociety

But look outside our society, people are killing each other all the time, animals kill each other all the time and after all we are just animals.

We are more than just animals. If we were just animals we would have two basic instincts, fight, or run. Most people do neither. Instead we communicate, work together in communities for the common interest of growing in our desires. Animals have one instinct, survive. We have many. So we are not JUST animals. We are, yes animals but with more capabilities than any other animal could ever achieve.

[LadyMakayla]

If we were raised without morals and taught that killing isn't wrong, we'd have no problem with it.

[Draven]

Originally Posted by DeathToSociety

The only reason people would have any problem with killing someone is because all our life we've been fed propaganda about how horrible it is to do something like that, you see it all the time in movies, the hero has to kill someone then cries about it and has nightmares. People in our society take stuff like that in all their life so it becomes true to them.
But look outside our society, people are killing each other all the time, animals kill each other all the time and after all we are just animals. Every idea that we are above that or more civilized than that, is an illusion.

If killing really was such a horrible experience we would have world peace.

You are allot more correct then you know, but only on a certain level. No animal will stop at killing another animal, true. But, most animals will not one of their own kind without reason. Its biological programming not to kill and eat your own. Most cats will kill birds, mice, etc but no cat who wasn't starving would kill another cat for food.

When reacting to any animal outside its own species an animal has two choices; fight or flight. But, when dealing others animals of the same species those same responses are changed to four; posture (appear more threatening in hope the other will submit), Submit to the seemingly stronger aminal, fight or run. But, fighting doesn't always mean killing.

Not much different then any other animal when it comes to social interaction. However, human society is full of ritualization and in the case of American society we tell ourselves we are more civilized. We shun violence and agression and yet praise those we show such qualities, in truth I'm reminded of Plato's Republic where the "Strong" dominate the weak and "smart" manipulate the "strong."

As for killing, killing isn't something thats hard. It only becomes hard when you allow yourself to be subjected to delusions that killing is wrong. Then you feel you did the "wrong thing" based on social programming. In essence, killing isn't wrong its something you do, whether you do for survival or some other reason is debatable and an "in the eye of the beholder" thing.

[DeathToSociety]

Originally Posted by General Grim

When I see a dog do algebra, I'll believe that.

Originally Posted by Core Entropy

We are more than just animals. If we were just animals we would have two basic instincts, fight, or run. Most people do neither. Instead we communicate, work together in communities for the common interest of growing in our desires. Animals have one instinct, survive. We have many. So we are not JUST animals. We are, yes animals but with more capabilities than any other animal could ever achieve.

You guys are missing the point of the argument, this isn't about how intelligent we are, intelligence isn't the reason people have morals.
Looking at humans compared to animals from an intelligence point of view, yes we are superior, but from a moral point of view, we are no better than them.
All this belief that we are morally better came from religion, such as the idea of original sin, that if we obey our animal desires we will burn in hell.

[LadyMakayla]

Our animal desires got us this far. Life is war, and there are no morals in war.