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There are some people in the US military are/were criminals this is what I ment by getting contacts in the military. I didn't mean the military was going out and find them for you. An example would be your friend that you met is basic training or whatever in the military is running drugs and your friend refers you to a cartel because they need something done and you want money and you have combat experience so you see it as a way to make money on the side. Also, those tests can't detect everything about someone.
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i would think gardening gloves would be best they have padding so the dont leave finger prints and the are meant to be handling tools to they have grip

i have always wondered what ity would be like to be a hitman
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i would think gardening gloves would be best they have padding so the dont leave finger prints and the are meant to be handling tools to they have grip

i have always wondered what ity would be like to be a hitman
Wow, you brought up a four year old thread to ask about garden gloves.

The gloves leave their own individualized print, and your prints are on the inside of the gloves - that's the concern. This of course can be dealt with by simply burning the gloves beyond recognition after the fact.

On another note: I happen to have an original copy of the "Hitman" book - there are some interesting ideas, not great but interesting.
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Hitman & the killer who made it famous were totally BS; I have the book and it didn't impress me.

1) Any idiot can use a gun but guns are not death rays; you have to be smooth, fast and accurate. Killing quickly and quietly is harder then anyone thinks and getting away without leaving a trail is very difficult.

2) plenty of people join the military to learn to kill; thats why they have a DNA Data base.

3) Also the difference between a professional and an amature is that a profession won't need a crappy book that was origionally intended to be a novel.

2) The military w
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Hitman & the killer who made it famous were totally BS; I have the book and it didn't impress me.
I always find that funny.
The guy was caught after killing someone using the book's instructions - if the book is "an instruction manual" it's not a very good one.

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1) Any idiot can use a gun but guns are not death rays; you have to be smooth, fast and accurate. Killing quickly and quietly is harder then anyone thinks and getting away without leaving a trail is very difficult.
Absolutely true.
The popular perception is that simply attatching a suppressor makes you a "silent killer" - it's hardly the case. Far more important are the questiosn of entry, execution, and extraction.

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2) plenty of people join the military to learn to kill; thats why they have a DNA Data base.
That's great isn't it, though I don't think very many countries have developed that strategy.

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That's the nail in the coffin right there.
If you needed to ask how to do it, you're not ready for the job.
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What was the point of your post shetlan, was it just to restate what draven said?

edit: the point of my post was to be an asshole
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What was the point of your post shetlan, was it just to restate what draven said?
To re-state, confirm, and expand on it.

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talking about garden gloves was not the point of bringing up this thread.

there is some shit going down were i live and some fuckers were goin to rat on us so i was goin to dispense of them.

anyway.... i always thought that killing was in some cases over compicated and in others underestimated if you get what im trying to say.
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talking about garden gloves was not the point of bringing up this thread.

there is some shit going down were i live and some fuckers were goin to rat on us so i was goin to dispense of them.

anyway.... i always thought that killing was in some cases over compicated and in others underestimated if you get what im trying to say.
Get a good lawyer if you are, Your fucked now if you do it. You just stated that you were going to kill someone on the internet. I doubt you are, your probably a 10 year old kid trying to act cool on the internet.
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your probly right on the fact that now im fucked but lots of people say they are going to kill someone... so i think im good there

and make no mistake i am no 10 year old kid trying to act cool, just remember who the JUNIOR member is here... so if i were you i would not go around starting shit with people,.
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and make no mistake i am no 10 year old kid trying to act cool, just remember who the JUNIOR member is here... so if i were you i would not go around starting shit with people,.
Oh how I laugh at that statement. If only you knew how stupid that was to say. I honestly could not stop laughing when I read that
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Thermite- answer to all dead bodies
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Dig a grave (preferebly in the woods rather than a back yard), mutilate your victim for easier handaling, throw body weapons and clothes in, fill with thermite with weight of around 1 third of victims body weight (E.g. 90kg victim= 30kg thermite) Light dat shit up and all done, no body means NO murder! Brilliant idea or silly? YOU decide.

If you do this and get caught don't blame me coz i don't want to be an accesory to murder.
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Dig a grave (preferebly in the woods rather than a back yard), mutilate your victim for easier handaling, throw body weapons and clothes in, fill with thermite with weight of around 1 third of victims body weight (E.g. 90kg victim= 30kg thermite) Light dat shit up and all done, no body means NO murder! Brilliant idea or silly? YOU decide.

If you do this and get caught don't blame me coz i don't want to be an accesory to murder.
Stoopid idea or ws it da koolz?.

1) Mutilating targets involves a huge mess. Far more trouble than it's worth.
2) That amount of thermite would cause a massive fire - so you're needlessly attracting attention from the arson investigators as well as homocide.
3) "No body - no murder" is true in Hollywood, but it doesn't mean anything in real life. It's difficult to carry out a murder trial with no body, but it's still done on occasion.
4) Burning a body with thermite instead of some other fuel doesn't really make a difference. There will still be little bits of tissue and bone left over.
5) Your suggestion overly complicates a relatively simple procedure. Body disposal isn't difficult, and ensuring that the body can't be identified doesn't really complicate it that much.
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Watch Snatch...

The wonna be god father in the movie owns a hog farm and disposes of bodies that way. Personally the best way to get rid of the body is to not get rid of the body, just cap the target and cover your tracks. Then have the weapon turn up in someone else's home and call the piggies saying the "killer" was drunk and bragging. You let the police nab them and your not a suspect...
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Also you are forgetting the key question cops will ask. "do you feel Mr dead body had anybody who would wish him harm?". If you intend to kill someone that you openly hate then you will be the main suspect when they go missing.

And that whole "they can't prove it was me" thing doesn't work real world. All the cops have to do is convince a jury which is made out of stupid people (smart people always get out of it) that you are guilty and thats it for you my son.
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The wonna be god father in the movie owns a hog farm and disposes of bodies that way. Personally the best way to get rid of the body is to not get rid of the body, just cap the target and cover your tracks. Then have the weapon turn up in someone else's home and call the piggies saying the "killer" was drunk and bragging. You let the police nab them and your not a suspect...
Certainely the best way to get rid of a body is to not get rid of the body, but there may be a case where getting rid of the body is necessary ("He just disappeared").

For example: "The Iceman" often disposed of bodies by shoving them into a 55 gal drum of alchohol and just leaving it somewhere.

Then there's the "Snatch" suggestion which I assume involves a woodchipper.
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Certainely the best way to get rid of a body is to not get rid of the body, but there may be a case where getting rid of the body is necessary ("He just disappeared").

For example: "The Iceman" often disposed of bodies by shoving them into a 55 gal drum of alchohol and just leaving it somewhere.

Then there's the "Snatch" suggestion which I assume involves a woodchipper.
No wood chipper, just feeding dead bodies to hogs (I think 8 or more) who have been starved for a week or so.
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No wood chipper, just feeding dead bodies to hogs (I think 8 or more) who have been starved for a week or so.
Ah. There was a murder a decade or two ago where the victim was tossed in a wood chipper and fed to chickens. Police said that if the killer had been smart enough to wash the wood chipper before they found it, he probably would have gotten away with it (I think he got the idea from a Hichcock episode).
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I would imagine it would be very hard to completely clean a wood-chipper of all the gore though..........
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I would imagine it would be very hard to completely clean a wood-chipper of all the gore though..........
Yes, but that's true of anything you put in it.

After the body is ground, wash it, then put some vegitation through it, then wash it again - the vegitation should help scrape off most of the remains.
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No one has even touched the whole psyche of a killer thing either. You have to be pretty hard to kill someone without freaking out (and probably puking all over the crime scene), not to mention feeding them to your assorted farm animals.
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Yes, but that's true of anything you put in it.

After the body is ground, wash it, then put some vegitation through it, then wash it again - the vegitation should help scrape off most of the remains.
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No one has even touched the whole psyche of a killer thing either. You have to be pretty hard to kill someone without freaking out (and probably puking all over the crime scene), not to mention feeding them to your assorted farm animals.
Actually a few books have Assassin: The Art & Science of Killing deals with it, so does Assassination Theory & Practice & Hitman did breifly but not well. Assassin breaks it down into three types; the patriot, thug and warrior.

Patriots kill for an idea...
Thugs kill for money & power...
Warriors kill for an idea & tradition...
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Patriots kill for an idea...
Thugs kill for money & power...
Warriors kill for an idea & tradition...
Which means nearly every soldier and leader in the world is a thug?
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Which means nearly every soldier and leader in the world is a thug?
Basicly yeah, well except of those conscripted soldiers who have to enlist...
As for the leaders they don't qualify as killers, they are the buyers who can't/won't do it themselves...
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your probly right on the fact that now im fucked but lots of people say they are going to kill someone... so i think im good there

and make no mistake i am no 10 year old kid trying to act cool, just remember who the JUNIOR member is here... so if i were you i would not go around starting shit with people,.
Hook, line , and sinker.

I recently talked to a state trooper about a case where he read online about something someone was going to do. The arrest wasn't for a crime (overzealous cops) but the forum post may having him guilty in a case.

The internet is like posting on a bulletin bored in shop and save.
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I dont think it would be hard to kill someone, but getting away with it is the hard part. bring the body to a place like where i live where you have 65 acres of land and your neighbor have 65 acres burn the body with thermite so very little is left and tell people if they ask, you were burning your trash or tell people before u burn the body, then look through the area for identifiable body parts take your favorite explosive and make sure knowbody will ever know there was a body here

if you live where i do neighbors dont report you for explosions or gunshots
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and make no mistake i am no 10 year old kid trying to act cool, just remember who the JUNIOR member is here... so if i were you i would not go around starting shit with people,.
I swear when you wrote that you meant to sound like a complete idiot.



Anyways my view on murder is

Your risking your life. Is it worth it. I wouldn't murder someone unless I hated the mother fucker enough to go down with him. Cause if you're caught you might as well have killed yourself.

If you kill someone and get caught and you regret it then you shouldn't have killed the person. Only kill someone if you hate them enough to spend the rest of your life in jail rather then let them breath.

As for money I wouldn't kill someone for money cause a poor existence is better then no existence.
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I dont think it would be hard to kill someone, but getting away with it is the hard part. bring the body to a place like where i live where you have 65 acres of land and your neighbor have 65 acres burn the body with thermite so very little is left and tell people if they ask, you were burning your trash or tell people before u burn the body, then look through the area for identifiable body parts take your favorite explosive and make sure knowbody will ever know there was a body here

if you live where i do neighbors dont report you for explosions or gunshots
You guys all seem to think that thermite is some kind of end-all solution for destroying evidence - it's not. Trying to burn a body with thermite is like trying to light a cigarette with a flame thrower, it just makes people ask more questions and spread the fire further. You're better off using a more controllable fuel - preferrably a fluid that would get into all the little spaces buring hair, skin, and such much more completely. Though it should be mentioned that, burning in and of itself isn't a very good way to destroy a body.

Secondly, doing it on your own property ^ is nothing less than foolish.
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actually i have lit a cig with a flame thrower before unfortanatly i also lit my hand on fire
i just happen to like burning stuff and since theremite burns at like 2,000 degrees it should disintigrate or melt the most noticable parts of a body or disfigure them
theres also many places just to bury a body out here people wouldnt find out for a very long time
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No one has even touched the whole psyche of a killer thing either. You have to be pretty hard to kill someone without freaking out (and probably puking all over the crime scene), not to mention feeding them to your assorted farm animals.
this is more than true. most people talk big game but cant hit a home run even if their own life depended on it
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