Torture/Interrogation Methods

[tsunai]

Right at the base of your fingernail where the half white moon is if enough pressure is applied it will send extreme shock and pain threw the whole body. If applied with lets see 10 fingers so 10 pairs of vise grips they will talk. If any are suspect to this method try it on yourself and squeeze your own fingernail at the base and tell me what you think

[tsunai]

Take a pen or marker and while the subject is tied up and making sure that he can not move his head take the pen or marker and slowly and firmly start to apply pressure right at the point behind the ear where the jaw bone meets. Try it with your finger and tell me what you think?

[Paranoid Ecstasy]

I think you should use the edit button.
Instead of double posting.
It's basically just putting them in alot of pain till they break.
Which can work, but I like to go more of a mental route.

Maybe use their fears to your advantage.
Examples Heights: Corner them at a cliff. Spiders:Leave their head in a jar of spiders or even their hole body. Drowning/Water: Put them in a low puddle and just submerge their heads till they are about to drown. Blood: Cut them. Clowns: Darken the room or force them to sleep, when they awake or can see have them surrounded by clowns and horribly scary clown music. (Fears turns out to be mentioned before)

How about keeping someone in an empty pitch black room with nothing but white noise. Have them strapped to a toilet so they must deal with the dreadful smell. You could even just make them use a corner if you don't want them strapped down.
They would have no sense of time. So then after a few weeks tell them it's been an immense amount of time. The only problem is they might go crazy in the process. You would have to feed them, but try to feed them as little as possible. Just keep them alive.

[Maestro]

I'd do it the way the army does.
Stress positions, extended ice baths, etc. No (obvious) marks left.

[tsunai]

Originally Posted by Paranoid Ecstasy

I think you should use the edit button.
Instead of double posting.
It's basically just putting them in alot of pain till they break.
Which can work, but I like to go more of a mental route.

Maybe use their fears to your advantage.
Examples Heights: Corner them at a cliff. Spiders:Leave their head in a jar of spiders or even their hole body. Drowning/Water: Put them in a low puddle and just submerge their heads till they are about to drown. Blood: Cut them. Clowns: Darken the room or force them to sleep, when they awake or can see have them surrounded by clowns and horribly scary clown music. (Fears turns out to be mentioned before)

How about keeping someone in an empty pitch black room with nothing but white noise. Have them strapped to a toilet so they must deal with the dreadful smell. You could even just make them use a corner if you don't want them strapped down.
They would have no sense of time. So then after a few weeks tell them it's been an immense amount of time. The only problem is they might go crazy in the process. You would have to feed them, but try to feed them as little as possible. Just keep them alive.

Every man has his breaking point. I guess the main thing to look at is how much time you have to try to get the information you need. If you only have a short time then obviously pain is the way to go. If you have a lot of time then screwing them mentally is the way to go. thats what I think anyways

[Revelt]

There are more painful things to do. Both ways left me kinda disappointed. Didn't hurt.

You'd do much better applying pressure the the base of his throat or the cavity between the ribs.

[tsunai]

Originally Posted by Revelt

There are more painful things to do. Both ways left me kinda disappointed. Didn't hurt.

You'd do much better applying pressure the the base of his throat or the cavity between the ribs.

then you are pressing in the wrong spot. Take your index finger. Point it out. Then take your index finger and have it rest on your other hands finger so that your thumb is on top of your index finger. Now take your thumbnail and apply pressure on the index fingers nail right where the nail meets the skin. Be firm press hard till it starts to get uncomfortable and when you start to get uncomfortable then really apply pressure and tell me if it still does not hurt.

Now as far as the ear goes. Right behind the earlobe on your neck you should feel a bit of a divit. If not just open and close your mouth a couple of times till you can feel it and find it. once you find it apply enough pressure so that you can start to feel it and then when you are sure that you are in the right place push hard for about 30 secs. you should get the results I was describing before.

[jrly]

Originally Posted by Revelt

OH OH

There was this old method of killing criminals in a LAWFUL situation with ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE of murder. This was employed to kill spies or something. Can't quite remember.

Subject the person to the sensory deprivation for a week, then tell him his a doctor is in the house. This "doctor" is going to make an incision in his neck, and he's going to bleed to death.

Following that, use a razor and slide across his neck (around the lymph notes or w/e they're called). MAKE SURE HE IS UNHARMED if you are in a highly hostile situation e.g. his lawyers want you dead. Then at the same time allow trickles of warm liquid (the guy who taught me this said they used vinegar. but i doubt it) )flow from the "cut". Talk in hushed voices about how much blood there is and the person should just slip away and die.

I know the idea works, but it won't necessarily work, depends on the person. This guy was stuck in a freezer train car for a couple days, and he wrote like a dairy and said he was dying from cold, but the cold generator wasn't turned on, so it was all in his head. Basically the same principle, but I would think it is very hard to get to work.

Little off topic, but President Bush said that the US does not use torture, and that it is defined in US law. US laws says torture is anything that cause mental or physical distress. Yeah, like the US doesn't use waterboarding or any of the ideas mentioned hear, and these most definitely cause mental or physical distess.

[Revelt]

Originally Posted by tsunai

then you are pressing in the wrong spot. Take your index finger. Point it out. Then take your index finger and have it rest on your other hands finger so that your thumb is on top of your index finger. Now take your thumbnail and apply pressure on the index fingers nail right where the nail meets the skin. Be firm press hard till it starts to get uncomfortable and when you start to get uncomfortable then really apply pressure and tell me if it still does not hurt.

Now as far as the ear goes. Right behind the earlobe on your neck you should feel a bit of a divit. If not just open and close your mouth a couple of times till you can feel it and find it. once you find it apply enough pressure so that you can start to feel it and then when you are sure that you are in the right place push hard for about 30 secs. you should get the results I was describing before.

Ahh... I got the fingernail one. I was pressing the tip of the base area initially.

But the ear one still doesn't work for me.

[YoungHypnotiq]

yah it hurts but not enuff to make some one break down if they really have somehting to hide.

[Thelasttrueone]

Heres an idea, watch a SAW movie, build sawlike device, put person in it. If they don't talk it does whatever it does if they do you release.

[Revelt]

zap his nipples. lol

[humanreaper]

well the easiest way i know how to get info out of some one is talk for less than a minute to them about there most hatted thing and they will snap i have done it , it is quite easy

ps:let them talk first for say one sentence well it is easy for me but i am called psychotic i also can make them tell me anything that way

[hamster dood]

Originally Posted by humanreaper

well the easiest way i know how to get info out of some one is talk for less than a minute to them about there most hatted thing and they will snap i have done it , it is quite easy

ps:let them talk first for say one sentence well it is easy for me but i am called psychotic i also can make them tell me anything that way

I see a commas, semicolon, but not PERIODS? I really don't want to go through the trouble of decoding where your sentences start and end. Take time to punctuate, I'm sure you have something interesting to say.

And from the looks of it, it seems like you're bragging.. but about what?

[AussieGuerilla]

Originally Posted by humanreaper

well the easiest way i know how to get info out of some one is talk for less than a minute to them about there most hatted thing and they will snap i have done it , it is quite easy

ps:let them talk first for say one sentence well it is easy for me but i am called psychotic i also can make them tell me anything that way

Yes, I'm sure that would work. I can just imagine a captured SAS commando revealing the location of his mates because you spoke to him about Britney Spears for under a minute, maybe if you forced him to listen to some of her pathetic music, but not just talk to him about it.

[Recycler]

Hmmm...

Not one mention of a belt sander & rubbing alcohol.... that's too bad.

People can be pretty hard to mind-fuck if there isn't a base of fear already instilled in them regarding the situation. The 'tough guy' isn't going to worry about mind games.... at least not until after you've introduced him to an obscene amount of pain in a very short time frame. Most real tough guys butch up when faced with someone who's trying to act tougher (or crazier) than them, however, so when you subject them to this pain, be cold, unemotional, and "matter of fact" about it. Don't tell them why you're doing it or what you want at first... just do it. They'll crack.

Your methods should put them in a "this can't be happening" state. Remove the thread of normalcy/reality and most people begin to unravel.... unless you're one who drops acid on a fairly regular basis. :wink:

Which reminds me.... I don't believe I saw anyone mention using mind altering drugs in conjunction with their torturing/interrogation. Might be an avenue worth exploring.

If your pigeon is a person who appears to live in the moral high ground, then just make them watch as family first, and then friends, are tortured instead of them.

Lying to make it all stop isn't so much an issue as long as they realize that everything they say will be verified, with more misery to follow for bogus information.

Just my two cents.
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[jrly]

Originally Posted by Recycler

Which reminds me.... I don't believe I saw anyone mention using mind altering drugs in conjunction with their torturing/interrogation. Might be an avenue worth exploring.

No, no one has mentioned that. The CIA invented LSD for the purpose of interrogating people in the sixties, but I don't really think it panned out, if I remember correctly. But I think certain psychotropic drugs would work, because if you see Big Bird interrogating you, you will probably give answers, but then again the answers have no reliablilty. But you could always invent a truth serum.

[headcase]

Originally Posted by jrly

The CIA invented LSD for the purpose of interrogating people in the sixties, but I don't really think it panned out, if I remember correctly.

The experimented with LSD. They didn't invent it. That was Albert Hofmann.

[Guskicks]

Chinese water torture.
Or... routine brutal beatings...

[Psychonaut]

Truth serum? Sodium Pentothal has had indications of being a 'truth serum' when administered in doses tailored to the subject. One problem with barbiturates such as sodium pentothal is that delusions are inseparable from the truth, even by the subject, therefore, subsequent interrogation sessions to verify are required. Doses of barbiturates should bring the subject to a sedative relaxed state, mere specifically with slurred speech, bad coordination, when they are suggestible. To obtain clinical effects such at this, dosing can take between 2 and 10 hours

But Sodium Pentothal is not particularly easy to procure. In 77 AD, Pliny the Elder wrote "In vino, veritas" or "In wine there is truth". I'd suggest that you procure your subject peacefully, buy them a couple of drinks, and if they don't yield - that's when you bring on the beatings, electrodes and belt sanders.

Sources;
"Use drug on Al-Qaeda prisoner: ex-CIA chief", Sydney Morning Herald, 27-28 April 2002, p.13.
"Project MKULTRA, the CIA's Program Of Research In Behavioral Modification', 1977 Senate Hearing on MKULTRA: 'Truth' Drugs in Interrogation.
"Great Myth Conceptions", Dr Karl Kruszelnicki, Harper Collins Publishers, 2004, pp. 95-8.