Torture/Interrogation Methods - Page 3

squat251 · #61 (**permalink**) 07-30-2008, 10:58 PM

one of my favorites is, i think called the belgian table, or something to that effect (been a while since ive thought about it) strap the victim to a table that is half submerced in water and attached to a bar in the middle alowing it to spin freely (while still bing in the water, when lying flat the table should only be 1" above the water tops, using a slow high torque motor you spin the table, the water should be very very cold, if they dont give after that, they arnt going to

LizzyReikoZ · #62 (**permalink**) 07-30-2008, 11:21 PM

Using their fears is always the best method. Heights, darkness, spiders, and pain are all common fears. I like the disorienting effect of total darkness in a room, but don't tie the person up, and make the door as flat as possible in the wall. Also, put a few inches of cold water on the floor and set the air conditioner at 55-60 degrees F. A single high-pitched noise played through speakers the entire time will help, along with a strobe light in the ceiling that flashes once every few minutes. Make it seem like the light goes off every hour, but set it to some irregular time to further confuse them. Be sure to feed them, but just bread and water. Another idea is to make the ceiling height just low enough that they can't stand completely up, but high enough that they have to crouch uncomfortably.

Btw, Iranian proxy servers filter anything about torture... interesting fact.

Skelton · #63 (**permalink**) 07-30-2008, 11:45 PM

^Read the posts before posting. And don't bring up old threads unless you have something really good, but sicne you did.

You could place them in a hot room, tie them to a chair and put cotton balls in their mouth. If they swallow or spit them out you put more in. If they don't crack put a chemical in their mouth to quench their thirst (Drano, Bleach, Salt).

Lone Gunman · #64 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 01:27 AM

I rodents are an amazing tool... more specifically rats.

Get a bunch of rats and starve them for a few days then tie someone up in a chair and take off their shoes.... With your knife leave small on their big toes and threaten the asshole to spill the beans, If he doesn't tell ya what you need to know let them out of their cage.

They will begin to chew on their toes and eventually work their way up the foot. The pain is excruciating.

Another method of interrogation is genital torture. The method that would be incredibly painful is borrowed from the movie Syrianna. taking a thin piec e of wire and heat it up with a propane torch then jam it in their pee hole. If this doesn't make someone talk nothing will in regards to pain.

Most people care about someone else... Family is a great tool... Whether it be a father, mother, sister, wife or child tie them all down and shoot one of them in the head then threaten to kill more if they don't talk.

LizzyReikoZ · #65 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 05:02 AM

Ouch... genital torture...

Ah well, ya can't kick a girl in the nuts xD

Paranoid Ecstasy · #66 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LizzyReikoZ

Ouch... genital torture...

Ah well, ya can't kick a girl in the nuts xD

You still have genitals though.
How would a female feel if made impossible for her to have children?

Also from what I've heard and seen it hurts just as bad to be hit in the tit.

LizzyReikoZ · #67 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 05:21 AM

Well... that does hurt. But I don't want kids anyways. I hate practically every little kid.

squat251 · #68 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 06:58 AM

as far as i know, he didn't mention anything about you in the no more kids portion, many women feel useless unless they can have children, in ancient times one of the roman leaders (i believe it was Caesar) killed several wives because they gave him only daughters. i know that doesn't exactly fit into this, but yeah, many women would find it a great tragedy if they could not reproduce. also not only will they be unable to reproduce, but unless the torturer is a doctor/surgeon its going to hurt an awful lot wont it? im no expert, but i believe the lady's equivalent to testicles isn't located in a convenient sack placed in a easy to cut off spot, and i wouldn't know where to poke with say a rusty coat hanger? to destroy the reproductive parts of a female.

Draven · #69 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 11:11 AM

Damn I'm a classical type, blow torches, razor blades, rusty screws & knives, a few fish hooks and a soldering iron. Once I lay out all my tools, I'd break their finger. Then ask how they feel, if they answer honestly (finger hurts) I'll reward them with a "pain pill" (laxitive) they give me any shit I'd wave the torch infront of their face with threats of melting their eyes out their head.

If they still refused I'd leave a few burns on their arms or legs, all the while pretending to be shamed for hurting them and trying to take it easy. I'd offer not only to stop the torture and bandage the wounds but money as well if they'd just answer the questions...

grndpndr · #70 (**permalink**) 07-31-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Ecstasy

Isolation and extreme lying.
"We have evidence, your wife has just admitted that she will testify against you and she wants you to know that it's really not your son." "Your dad is near death, but we can't allow you to go till we get the correct information."

I am 100% against any sort of authority figure lying.
I've heard so many stories about cops lying, and it enrages me.
Same with the army, mostly to get teen recruits.

Its amazng how many people will incriminate/confess even given a mediocre interrogator just using the above methods(which I despise as well,the police can lie to you but lie to an officer is a felony?) even when looking at a first degree murder charge and the death penalty.On the other side torture may work in some instances but from what Ive heard most people will tell you anything you want to hear eve if they know nothing to stop the pain.Or useless info in other words but you just cant tell if its truth or not since your the one who needs the info but are in the dark so torture can elicit any answer the subject decides to tell you to stop the pain and you may not find out the truth for days or maybe never.
Torture I believe is unreliable particularly against someone who is trained to resist torture.On the other hand the government claimed they had the second in command of al quadai singing like a canary?
Govt disinformation ?Truth?What methods were used to allegedly get him to spill the beans
getting many of his friends killed/captured.The government will tell you all they did was waterboarding maybe stress positions.Of course waterboarding is part of special forces and perhaps Ranger training and its claimed few men can take the feeling of drowning for more than 30 seconds.Imagine that feeling for hours on end being revived at the last moment!
No marks no permanent damage other than psychological trauma.

Im not in favor of torture even something as relatively mild as waterboarding,but in the case of foriegn terrorists on OUR soil intent on killing as many of us a possible I say throw the book
at em.And the book of torture has been written for thousands of years.

Has anyone ever heard of impaling?A sharpened stake about 5-7ft long is securly buried in the ground the sharpened end +4-5ft is above ground, sharp end stuck up your ass and the wieght of your body causes you to slowly impale yourselve on the stake.Takes some time to kill you, how long im not sure.Pleasant thought huh?

LizzyReikoZ · #71 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 04:22 AM

You have a good point squat... no easy to cut off sack. But most men have extreme fear of pain in the crotch, giving girls an advantage.

bloodlusta · #72 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 10:30 AM

yea thats true. I knew this guy who slept with this chick and stole some of her jewelry, she knew it was him but he just denied it. so she slipped him a date rape pill and tied him to a chair while he was out. when he came to she asked him again he said he didn't take i. she tried to interrogate him by burning him with lighters and he just laughed. so she stomped on his nuts 3 times! then he told her he had taken them and where they were. he was 6ft 6 she was 5ft3. she had to leave the city but she got her stuff back lol.

squat251 · #73 (**permalink**) 08-01-2008, 10:25 PM

lizzy, your right, men do have a fear of pain in the groin, however i would have to think that women also share this fear to an extent, a pair of pliers used on either sex would get excelent results from both. however i am a male and do not know the amount of pain it would cause a woman, i can only imagine, though, that this would hurt a considerable amount, and no one likes excessive pain, especially in an area with so many nerve near the skin, i would like to remind you, that nerves near the skin is how a great many pressure points are able to work.

LizzyReikoZ · #74 (**permalink**) 08-02-2008, 06:10 AM

Even though this may make me sound like a sex addict or a perv, I'm gonna say it anyway. I wonder if having a lot of rough sex makes your crotch less sensitive...

squat251 · #75 (**permalink**) 08-03-2008, 04:24 AM

more than likely.

and what the hell is Private Special Forces? your not talking like that 14 yr old in another thread with a militia are you? cause thats sad. plus i notice that you added that after me and grdpnder's talk about our past in the military...nice... if you meant a bodyguard, thats not quite Special Forces, and all of my Navy Seal friends know alot more on the subjects that you have posted on...so i guess what im saying is what was your training in? clearly it wasnt in hiding yourself on the internet, and it wasnt on intelligence, wasnt i weapons, wasnt on common sence, and wasnt on not posting outside of your knowlege..so what was it on?

(not that most of that's military training, but would come with a bit of training in intelligence, and counter-intelligence.)

LizzyReikoZ · #76 (**permalink**) 08-03-2008, 04:37 AM

I wasn't in the military. I worked for people on both sides of the law for a while, then spent a few months drinking heavily, and now I'm going to college.

Skelton · #77 (**permalink**) 08-03-2008, 06:39 AM

Put a little napalm on some sensitive skin and lite it. When it burns out peel off the residue it there is any then rub some salt into the burns.

Putting some on their shoulder should get some results.

LadyMakayla · #78 (**permalink**) 08-03-2008, 07:26 AM

Wow, all god ideas. I think isolation and darkness are good methods for screwing with their minds, because if you just inflict pain, the intel might not be accurate.

Core Entropy · #79 (**permalink**) 08-03-2008, 07:30 AM

Im with Ecstacy, the mental route is the way to go.

Japanese - Japanese water torture. Amazing, what they did is strap the person to a table or the floor. Then they would put a large bucket of water overhead and have a small metal rod leading down towards the subjects eye, about three or four feet above the eye. Then they would let the water SLOWLY drip on the the subjects face, usually hitting the eye area, sometimes not. And sometimes they would pry the persons eye open and also sometimes they would add salt or different temperature waters in different buckets and mix it up a bit to really screw with the person. a week tops person will be crazy.

Germans - Kept subjects in a low lit room of roughly hard pads. When the subjects go to sleep the Germans would watch until they could see the subjects eyes start to move under the eye lids (everyone does this in their sleep it is the brains physical way of unloading itself after a day of quick memory storage) and when they saw this movement they would quickly wake the subject up. T2w or three days tops the person will be insane and the body will naturally force the person to answer any questions to get itself out of that state.

LadyMakayla · #80 (**permalink**) 08-03-2008, 07:38 AM

Just by thinking about it, water torture doesn't seem like it would work that well. but it's really the messing with their heads that does it. Also good that it wouldn't leave any permanent damage.

Jago · #81 (**permalink**) 08-04-2008, 06:36 AM

I'm starting to see allot of off topic banter such as:

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Even though this may make me sound like a sex addict or a perv, I'm gonna say it anyway. I wonder if having a lot of rough sex makes your crotch less sensitive...

Let's keep this on topic. This is not a chat room, and it shouldn't be treated as one.
Any more and I will start handing out warnings.

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Just by thinking about it, water torture doesn't seem like it would work that well. but it's really the messing with their heads that does it. Also good that it wouldn't leave any permanent damage.

You'd be very surprised what people's natural instincts can do to them. If you give the body the illusion that it's drowning, well, some interesting things start to happen. As mentioned before in this thread, it can be a very useful interrogation method.

From what I recall. The subject is laid out on a table, strapped down, legs elevated. I think the subject's face is then covered with cling wrap, but allowed to breathe(I can't remember that detail too well), and water was poured onto their face. If that fails, water is then allowed to enter the subject's mouth. I read that the longest anyone has lasted was 6 minutes. Whether it really is true or not, well, that's a different matter. But your own mind would begin to play tricks on you because your body would more or less think that you are drowning, therefor all sorts of alarm bells go off.