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Old 02-11-2009, 03:28 PM
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sure, they can be injected. dripping them under your tounge is just making them enter the muscous membranes, which inturn puts it into your blood stream.

if you ask me, your best bet would be to get medical grade.
also, im suprised i havent heard the word ether yet?

that can also be injected, but has to be an aqueous solution. thing is it has a short halflife, so you will be looking at redosing after 20 mins.

all i can say is that dont try it on your mates. without the necisarry medical knowledge and materials, this can be a dangerous, for example, he falls into a coma, but you think its because of the drug, and that he is sedated. also, you notice that people get large rebreathers when they are operated? most sedatives (all actuall,y i think) are depressants, and they also depress resperation at certain doses.

one idea, how about alcohol and antihistamines? or benzodiazepanes and GHB?

this would be a more unhealthy way of inducing it, but it should work, shouldnt it?

thanks anon for the info!

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Do know that you can't just fire an oral drug intra-muscular into your victim and expect it to work the same way as it does orally.. Oral drugs have to pass more membranes and deals with a first-pass mechanism making the needed dose a lot higher. And also like mentioned before, when using irritants to dick your victime also be aware of the dangerous systemic effects that might occur like an anafylactic shock. I very badly do not support these actions, but knowing that my oppinion will not be taken into account I'd say UNDERSTAND medicine/drugs first before putting them into action. Build up understanding about the pharmacodynamics and -kinetics of the drug you're going to use prior to shooting someone with it.

Tips: intramuscular drugs work faster if they are hydrofylic (dissolves well in water) and if the muscle has a good perfusion. Also use a drug that is directly available after injection (does not have to pass the liver to be metabolized into the active form) and does not strongly bind to plasmaproteins. Also think about how long you want your victime to be knocked out, and how fast it has to happen..

Hazards are not knowing if the person you're gonna shoot has drunk alcohol, uses medicine, physical condition, bodyweight, allergies.. etc. Also question the sterileness of the injection. And what about fingerprints on the darts? Doing this is taking a giant risk.
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this is just an idea but to rapidly effect the system what about 1 part epinephrine to 3 parts whatever tranquilizer your using
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this is just an idea but to rapidly effect the system what about 1 part epinephrine to 3 parts whatever tranquilizer your using
One part stimulant and three parts tranquilizer? Oh yeah, that's a great way to cause a heart attack.
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Sorry but couldnt be bothered to read all the way though the thread.
What is wrong with Ketamine? isn't that what they use for tranquizing animals? Its not even like its hard to get hold of! Dont know anything about turning it from a powder to a liquid, but even i have friends that sell it from the bottle to powder. Fuck knows where they get it, will have to ask.
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im not shure about how to make a tranq dart.. but i do know a bleach soaked rag does the job fairly quickly XD
Ok um..Kills them Quickly or Sedates them Quickly?
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ya doesnt bleach make u suffocate if you inhale is a lot
No, suffocation is lack of oxygen.
bleach can kill if you inhale enough.
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I found out the most information by reading and studying ancient drugs. Also to tranq someone with a air powered weapon is not going to work unless it is a paralize dart. Other than that it will have to be a ballistic syringe. That is basicly a shot with a metal ball behind it. When it hits the animal (we are not talking people here I hope.) the ball will keep going and push down the plunger to inject the chemical into the animal. Also it will take a few minutes or more than seconds to put the animal down. So the chemicals I found for making this yourself is the following.

morphine
ether
curare
chloroform

With ether being the chemical of choice because a beginner chemist can find and use the right chemicals to distill the liquid. Ether is made by distilling a mixture of ethanol and sulfuric acid. Morphine you have to buy or grow opium. Curare is usually used for poison darts to paralize and will kill. chloroform was used before ether to operate on people it is not as good as ether. Everyone please excuse my bad spelling. With a little research and a lot of experimenting a homemade tranq. is possible. There you go.

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im not shure about how to make a tranq dart.. but i do know a bleach soaked rag does the job fairly quickly XD
You are a fucking moron.

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I found out the most information by reading and studying ancient drugs. Also to tranq someone with a air powered weapon is not going to work unless it is a paralize dart. Other than that it will have to be a ballistic syringe. That is basicly a shot with a metal ball behind it. When it hits the animal (we are not talking people here I hope.) the ball will keep going and push down the plunger to inject the chemical into the animal. Also it will take a few minutes or more than seconds to put the animal down. So the chemicals I found for making this yourself is the following.

morphine
ether
curare
chloroform

With ether being the chemical of choice because a beginner chemist can find and use the right chemicals to distill the liquid. Ether is made by distilling a mixture of ethanol and sulfuric acid. Morphine you have to buy or grow opium. Curare is usually used for poison darts to paralize and will kill. chloroform was used before ether to operate on people it is not as good as ether. Everyone please excuse my bad spelling. With a little research and a lot of experimenting a homemade tranq. is possible. There you go.
No, no, no. I swear, aside from TOTSE, I've never seen such a vast collection of fucking idiots in my life.

Where to begin?

First off, kindly STFU unless you know what you're talking about, which you clearly don't. Never have you distilled ether, jackass. Don't even tell me you have as you clearly have no clue what your saying. Yes, I know the H2SO4 dehydration of ethanol so let's not recreate that wheel...

Starting fluid contains diethyl ether & heptane... easily distilled IF you know wtf you're doing, which you don't so DON'T FUCKING TRY IT!

Some notes on ether: It's heavier than air for one, so it settles nicely into the folds of your clothes, your pockets, shoes, drawers, cupboards, carpet, floors etc & is mostly undetectable unless you're down there with it... It burns with a nearly imperceptible, pale blue flame which is VERY hot! Flash fire, ftw.

Next, it's HIGHLY PYROPHORIC! Meaning someone on tv next door lights a cigarette & the shit finds a way to catch fire. Actually ether itself undergoes atmospheric oxidation when not in the presence of an inhibitor to yield autocatalyzing peroxides which are quite explosive. Several clandestine labs have gone Darwin due to not realizing this. A simple length of raw copper wire in your ether will inhibit formation of peroxides. So does copper sulphate, IIRC. There's another food additive (BHE?) that's commercially used as a peroxide inhibitor for ether... But like I said, you're an ignorant asshat & you shouldn't even be thinking about any of this unless you want to Darwinize yourself, which might really be for the best. Just don't take anyone else out with you. That's be rude.

Next, you can make chloroform much more easily than ether (infinitely safer also) but you won't be injecting either of these into the human anatomy, effectively, any time soon, so, let's just stop right there.

Now, wtf is a "paralize" dart, other than something you don't know how to spell correctly? Are you speaking of something like succinyl choline or other induction/neuro-muscular blocking type drugs, to which family curare (D-tubocurarine) already belongs? Hmm?

Ballistic dart?!?! Dude, modern tranq darts don't use weights any more. You're about 10 years behind modern technology. Modern darts use a small explosive charge to inject anywhere from 1 - 3 cc (average) and most CO2 guns have an effective range of up to a couple hundred yards. Good luck hitting your target beyond that with a heavy ass dart.

If paralytics are what you're after, please investigate the induction class sodium or calcium channel blocking drugs.

Furthermore, don't ask for such information on boards like this lest you want some dumb fuck answers like these illustrated.

Again, so many people talking so much shit & none of it worth saying.

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