Street fighting

[Bahr]

Originally Posted by Core Entropy

Im not judging u kicked his ass thats all that matters especially since he started it.

I think im going to like you. And ive been trying to find brass knuckle belts or real brass's for a while but their illegal in georgia. and the cops must have done a good job because Every single connection I have dont know where to get any.

[X-ray Cat]

Originally Posted by General Grim

Now think about it, if you're in a boxing ring with large gloves that protect the sides of your face, then that's suitable. However, you're in the street, protecting your face with your significantly smaller fist is a waste of time. Rather than schooling you in correct posture and stance, I'll just tell you that your method sucks.

If you've got your fists near your temples you can lift your elbows up to protect your head. Plus you'll be able to punch much faster cause your hands don't need to swing back that far (plus backswinging kinda tells which arm you're gonna use and spoil the surprise) Therefor always get up guard. Martials arts weren't develloped for purely didactic form. It tends to actually work.

[Bahr]

Have ya'll ever heard about how you can hit someone in a certain part of the head and it will cause a vessel to break and flood their brain with blood,slowly. And three days later it'll kill them. I thought that was bull shit but they had it on some show last night, it is possible but you have to hit the exact spot with like a finger. Sadly they wouldent show the spot.

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by Bahr

Have ya'll ever heard about how you can hit someone in a certain part of the head and it will cause a vessel to break and flood their brain with blood,slowly. And three days later it'll kill them. I thought that was bull shit but they had it on some show last night, it is possible but you have to hit the exact spot with like a finger. Sadly they wouldent show the spot.

Research boxing related deaths. You'll find out a ton of information on how blows to the head can take a toll on a person's life.

Here's a start: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia: Subdural hematoma

[Bahr]

This is more martial arts. Its not just a hard hit its location. From what I saw on tv its a nerve with a blood vessel going over the top of it and its in like a crease in your head so the only way to hit it is with just a fingure or two. A whole fist would be to big.

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by Bahr

This is more martial arts. Its not just a hard hit its location. From what I saw on tv its a nerve with a blood vessel going over the top of it and its in like a crease in your head so the only way to hit it is with just a fingure or two. A whole fist would be to big.

Since when is boxing not a martial art?

[Bahr]

Originally Posted by Beyond

Since when is boxing not a martial art?

I diddent say it wasent a martial art. I ment that you cant do it boxing because your wearing a glove and the move requires only a fingure or two. And just to say, Every thing ive seen about it, is karate people doing it.

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by Bahr

I diddent say it wasent a martial art. I ment that you cant do it boxing because your wearing a glove and the move requires only a fingure or two. And just to say, Every thing ive seen about it, is karate people doing it.

With a barefist, or with any striking art, you only hit with the first two knuckles which, coincidentally, have about the same "foot print" as two fingers.

[Fayle]

Originally Posted by Bahr

I think im going to like you. And ive been trying to find brass knuckle belts or real brass's for a while but their illegal in georgia. and the cops must have done a good job because Every single connection I have dont know where to get any.

Haha well just to let you know, im getting rid of that account. (I realized using Core Entropy is not really something to be smart on especially since we do illegal operations)

I'm Core Entropy now Fayle.
Ill even edit my post lol.

Yes Brass Knuckles are hard to come by in some area's but easy in others. I just bought a belt buckle brass knuckle combo. What it really was instead of the brass knuckles being the belt buckle, the belt buckle snapped in the brass knuckles. Look it up online or if u really want to find a metal works, get a piece of metal in an eye (like the human eye) shape and drill four holes about 3/4 of an inch from one side. Then see how it holds on both sides. Whatever you like you can start to style it.

I have worked on a metal works plant (forklift not the actual metal) and was able to make a few pairs of knuckles. My favorite pair have small spheres on the end and is made of steel/iron mix.

[Bahr]

Originally Posted by Beyond

With a barefist, or with any striking art, you only hit with the first two knuckles which, coincidentally, have about the same "foot print" as two fingers.

Damn im tired of explaining this. So im just going to leave it at this, You need two fingers. Knuckles wont work...Ok im through, not saying anything else.

And Fayle. Ive made a pair of brass's out of pipe that I cut into sections but they dident fit well.

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by Bahr

Damn im tired of explaining this. So im just going to leave it at this, You need two fingers. Knuckles wont work...Ok im through, not saying anything else.

Did you not read the link at all?

Ample trauma, from any appendage, will produce the results you described.

You just bought into the whole Dim Mak myth.

[Draven]

Originally Posted by Bahr

Have ya'll ever heard about how you can hit someone in a certain part of the head and it will cause a vessel to break and flood their brain with blood,slowly. And three days later it'll kill them. I thought that was bull shit but they had it on some show last night, it is possible but you have to hit the exact spot with like a finger. Sadly they wouldent show the spot.

Ok here is the thing, the target points your thinking of are the temples, optic nerve (lays in a crease above the eye, mandable process and the crone of skull. The optic nerve & mandable process are impossible to hit with the fist, and using a finger strike takes conditioning. The short cut is to use the second knuckle of middle finger.

Originally Posted by Beyond

Did you not read the link at all?

Ample trauma, from any appendage, will produce the results you described.

You just bought into the whole Dim Mak myth.

Actually Dim Mak is not myth just blown up to mythical proportions. There are three area of study in Dim Mak blood vessels & organs, nerves and chi the application of chi lines requires one to study both acupressure and acupuncture before heading over to learn about combat application takes about 10 to 20 years to learn and another 20 to 40 to master it. Unless your using a modernized short cut system which is probably BS.

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by Draven

Actually Dim Mak is not myth just blown up to mythical proportions.

I didn't say it was a myth. I said he bought into the Dim Mak myth, as in "Hey bro, I heard if you touch someone like this, his head will explode!"

There are three area of study in Dim Mak blood vessels & organs, nerves and chi the application of chi lines requires one to study both acupressure and acupuncture before heading over to learn about combat application takes about 10 to 20 years to learn and another 20 to 40 to master it. Unless your using a modernized short cut system which is probably BS.

There is no such thing as "chi", at least as you describe it.

I am so tired of people buying into Dim Mak and claiming that all these pressure points and spots do magical things.

It's all the same, you hit a vital area with enough force to disrupt normal functions and you're guaranteed to cause a problem on the victim, end results may vary.

[Fayle]

Originally Posted by Bahr

Damn im tired of explaining this. So im just going to leave it at this, You need two fingers. Knuckles wont work...Ok im through, not saying anything else.

And Fayle. Ive made a pair of brass's out of pipe that I cut into sections but they dident fit well.

Hmm interesting. Have you tried applying different sizes of pipe? My advise is to get about 13 different sizes, and find what fits on your fingers but leaves about a three millimeter gap from the top of your skin to the piping. Once you find all the best, cut them so only half an inch of copper is is left. Smoothen the edges then weld them together with small metal balls so you can slide your four fingers right in. Then find a grip that is very durable and rust proof, any metal as long as it is able to be welded onto the small rings. Then as i mentioned before, small metal balls onto the tips of the knuckles are quite useful.

[Draven]

Originally Posted by Beyond

I didn't say it was a myth. I said he bought into the Dim Mak myth, as in "Hey bro, I heard if you touch someone like this, his head will explode!"

There is no such thing as "chi", at least as you describe it.

I am so tired of people buying into Dim Mak and claiming that all these pressure points and spots do magical things.

It's all the same, you hit a vital area with enough force to disrupt normal functions and you're guaranteed to cause a problem on the victim, end results may vary.

No such thing as "chi" and yet acupressure & accupuncture work. Consider that the thoeretical practice maybe based on "misinterpeted facts" yet regardless of interpetation the method is still sound? There are location on your body where nerve clusters and/or blood vessels run close to the skin surface and minimum pressure can cause pain. Now "chi" is the basis of acupuncture and acupressure; meridian lines and such, whether thats real or not doesn't matter if the effects work.

Also I never discribed chi, you did within your own mind, I simply pointed that true Dim Mak is based on three areas of study blood, nerves and chi meridians. I never said anything about "glowing hands" or yoga flame simply that the original system incorperate the study of chi meridian (chi lines) or accupressure/accpuncture points if you will. Dim Mak is a perversion of Kung-fu/Wushu and Ancient Chinese Medicine whicj happens to include subjects such as chi-kung, accupressure.accupuncture points and human anatomy. If you want to state that chi does not exist that is fine, but do not make up statements in your head and try to stay that I claimed anything. Perhaps I should have use better punctation, so that things were easier for you to understand...

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by Draven

No such thing as "chi" and yet acupressure & accupuncture work.

Chi is a mythical energy the Chinese believe in. Science has never proven it's existence. It's a metaphor at best.

Also I never discribed chi, you did within your own mind, I simply pointed that true Dim Mak is based on three areas of study blood, nerves and chi meridians.

Your implications didn't leave much to the imagination. The only other type of chi that remotely deals with meridians is chi distribution in mathematics.

I never said anything about "glowing hands" or yoga flame simply that the original system incorperate the study of chi meridian (chi lines) or accupressure/accpuncture points if you will.

Neither did I, so don't bring anymore confusion into this.

Dim Mak is a perversion of Kung-fu/Wushu and Ancient Chinese Medicine whicj happens to include subjects such as chi-kung, accupressure.accupuncture points and human anatomy. If you want to state that chi does not exist that is fine, but do not make up statements in your head and try to stay that I claimed anything. Perhaps I should have use better punctation, so that things were easier for you to understand...

Couple that with some better spelling and sentence structure.

[jrly]

I don't know if there are actual pressure points in the wrist or elsewhere that if pressed will hurt like a motherfucker because I have never seen them first person, but I have always assumed that there are. But serious pain and damage can be done with joint locks, which is the basis of hapkido, check out these videos.

YouTube - Amazing Hapkido II
YouTube - Fight Quest - Hapkido (Part 1) (the whole Fight Quest episode on Hapkido I though looked interesting)

Obviously this isn't realistic for a regular guy in a street fight though.

[Slathe]

You all are still on this post? Why not let it die?