Do you think you could get away with it?

[Azrael21]

Foreword: I am not intending to act on any of these suggestions, this is merely a hypothetical situation. A show of intelligence, and resourcefulness similar to the torture/interrogation thread, if this thread is in anyway violating the rules, please delete it.

I have often wondered how easy it would be to get away with murder. I think it would be way easier than CSI would have you believe.

Anybody have any idea's as to how someone could get away with it?

[LizzyReikoZ]

For example, it's hunting season and someone you hate is going hunting... follow them out with a rifle and blow their brains out.

[Azrael21]

You're not getting my drift. Any idiot could do that, how would you GET AWAY with it? Alibi?

This is all about not getting caught.

[Skelton]

Well it differs depending on the persons habits.

If they go to bars, wait for them to come out, if they are alone knock them out with a baseball bat and throw them in your trunk (put down plastic in case they bleed). Drive them to a secluded area and beat their brains in. Wipe off finger prints and leave it their, or wipe off the blood and soak it in bleach, cola, to remove evidence of blood.

Switch tires so they couldn't match the tire prints and if you need an alibi have a friend or two say you were all at their house. Make up a story if your going to be a suspect.

[LizzyReikoZ]

Ahhh... I see now... Anyways, slip into their house while they're asleep, take a syringe with an air bubble in it, and inject it into their bloodstream. Heart attack or stroke is almost guaranteed, and would most likely be "natural causes".

[Draven]

Go with poison; especially if they drink or do drugs give them an overdose. If you use a knive, gun baseball bat, make sure to leave the evidence with a with a mutual enemy so that they have reason and method on investigation.

[Corporal Punishment]

Originally Posted by LizzyReikoZ

Ahhh... I see now... Anyways, slip into their house while they're asleep, take a syringe with an air bubble in it, and inject it into their bloodstream. Heart attack or stroke is almost guaranteed, and would most likely be "natural causes".

it's called an embolism.

you'll need alot of air and good knowledge of arteries because it could get stuck ANYWHERE and only cause paralysis of an extremity resulting in amputation.

the heart will flutter but not enough to cause cardiac arrest.

diving class FTW

Edit: ther are OBVIOUS telltale signs of embolism though.

[master lurtz]

Yea, poison is a good way to go. Maby pure nicotine if they smoke as it is easily absorbed through the skin, or potassuim cyanide dissolved in some cream, also absorbed through the skin when they rub it on in the morning. Gun, baseball bat, knife etc is very risky, if you can make it look like a totally genuine accident then the police probably wont even think about investigating it, if they suddenly go missing then the cops will get involved and then you are more likley to get caught.

[snipeshow]

Like the guy said earlier about someone walking into a bar then coming out or whatever knock them out with a baseball bat. Hells angels used to starve pigs for weeks then feed them dead bodies and they ate every little bit of evidence up and then just change your tires burn them and your set.

[LizzyReikoZ]

Find some heart medication and dissolve it in their food or drink...

[Draven]

I like the nicotine idea, it tastes sweet and effects you kinda like alcohol. So you could just slip in a drink or something sweet and its real easy to get you can make it from a can of snuff. Good one I actually forgot about that poison...

[grndpndr]

Id really have to hate that person and if i hated them enough to kill Im afraid id lose it and simply shoot them. likely only in the case they hurt my family etc. Im no help.Wife has episodes of serious diabetic episodes where she becomes almost incoherent.Claim she shot up far to much of the wrong insulin.Uses 2 kinds one of very high strenght quick acting ,likely coma/death.I didnt know she was having difficultys officer i was in bed sleeping discovered her this AM?

I think to have any chance of successfully getting away with it the person would need to have preexisting condition
otherwise the pathologists will do tox screens etc so poisons will be found there are very few than cant be detected anymore.I just dont think poison would work unless it somehow appeared accidental or the death miimcked the natural causes of the persons bad health?Tough to beat forensics if you know the person however if your killing a stranger who cares f the know the cause of death how will they ever decide its you out of 10s of millions if no one saw you with the victim,same reason many serial killers can get away with kiling so many.No way to connect you to victim .

[DeathToSociety]

Here's my plan for killing some random person, serial killer style:

Stuff needed
-Victim, for this scenario I'll use the classic hooker victim
-Get a few large duffel bags, with some plastic bags inside and a plastic tarp
-Get a knife or whatever you want to use as long as its quiet
-Get a hacksaw
-Get a gag and some handcuffs
-Gloves, hairnet, whatever you need to make sure you don't leave any evidence
-Hotel room
-Cement
-Boat

Rent a room in a hotel somewhere, then go to a neighborhood far away and pick up some hooker on the street, take her back to your hotel room (don't forget the "Do not Disturb" sign) and get her to put the gag and handcuffs on like you're about to have some freaky sex, when she has those on she won't be able to scream or run away.
Spread out the tarp on the floor and drag her on to it and kill her. Use the hacksaw to cut up her body into pieces small enough to fit into the plastic bag. Seal the plastic bags and put them in the duffel bags.
Leave the hotel with duffel bags and go pick up your bags of cement, mix them in a wheelbarrow then fill the plastic bags (with the mutilated body still inside) with cement. Rent a boat if you don't own one, if you have to rent, think of some excuse for bringing duffel bags onto the boat. Take the boat out to where you're sure no one sees you and throw the plastic bags filled with now hardened cement and cut up body pieces.

If you're wondering, yes I am insane

Also, feel free to add on to this or correct something that doesn't seem practical.

[bloodlusta]

disposal, just throw it in the bush, the wild dogs and pigs will eat the lot and scatter the bones. all the will be left is the guts, and they will rot fast enough. like the nicotine, if it can be absorbed through the skin just put on something like their door handle or something like that

[Azrael21]

It would have to be a random person, so you wouldnt have a motive. I dont see why shooting them would be so bad, just use a .22 with those sub-sonic rounds and a water bottle. Or a taser to the back and drag them into your car.

I would then dissolve them in hydrofluoric acid. Then dump the goo shit left behind into a sewer drain or river or something.

[DeathToSociety]

Originally Posted by bloodlusta

disposal, just throw it in the bush, the wild dogs and pigs will eat the lot and scatter the bones. all the will be left is the guts, and they will rot fast enough. like the nicotine, if it can be absorbed through the skin just put on something like their door handle or something like that

I wouldn't be willing to risk my freedom relying on wild animals, better off feeding them to animals you own.

This might interest some of you

[Draven]

Originally Posted by grndpndr

I think to have any chance of successfully getting away with it the person would need to have preexisting condition
otherwise the pathologists will do tox screens etc so poisons will be found there are very few than cant be detected anymore.I just dont think poison would work unless it somehow appeared accidental or the death miimcked the natural causes of the persons bad health?Tough to beat forensics if you know the person however if your killing a stranger who cares f the know the cause of death how will they ever decide its you out of 10s of millions if no one saw you with the victim,same reason many serial killers can get away with kiling so many.No way to connect you to victim .

Well personally I'd have to pre-meditate the act, research the victim and work from their. If they are a drug user you can overdose. Who needs forensics cause of death is obvious. As for poisons, who cares if they know the person was poisoned? The reason for poison is it leaves little evidence and gives you time to get away before it kicks in.

All you have to do is drop a vial down a sewer drain and walk away. You make a concentrated dose of LSD or similar drug and give it to someone as the normal drug and bounce while they slowly kill over.

[DeathToSociety]

Yeah the "accidental" overdose thing is a good idea, But the person would have to have a history of drug use. You could follow someone to a party where you know everyone will be drinking, try and get the guy to drink until he passes out. Drag him over to a bathroom like he's about to puke, then lock the door. Sit him up and inject enough heroin into him for an overdose, be sure to get his fingerprints on the needle and inject at the angle that someone who was doing it themselves would do.

[pyrokitty14]

so theres this girl i hate (this is all hypothetical by the way so don't report me to the cops. its just to see your ideas on this method) and i was thinking of sniping her from a long distance . so what gun should i use and do you think i could get away if i destroyed the rifle and the ammo and dumped the body some where where no one would find it and extracting the bullet from the body.





p.s. this is all hypothetical and i would never do this to someone even if i did hate them.

p.s.s. i actually do hate this girl but i don't want to kill her. she's my ex-girlfriend.

[Azrael21]

Sniper rifle thread has all your answers.

Happy hunting.

Edit: It depends on what rifle you use, if it is common most likely no use getting the bullet out of the body. If it is some rare cartridge that hardly anyone owns, then dig the bullet out.

[Draven]

Originally Posted by pyrokitty14

so theres this girl i hate (this is all hypothetical by the way so don't report me to the cops. its just to see your ideas on this method) and i was thinking of sniping her from a long distance . so what gun should i use and do you think i could get away if i destroyed the rifle and the ammo and dumped the body some where where no one would find it and extracting the bullet from the body.

I'd say too much work, why not just use a handgun at close range? If your gonna reclaim bullets and all that. It seems to me that the more complex the cover up the more evidence you leave behind. Just me...