Fighting at school

[bloodlusta]

Have you been in a fight?

master lurtz is right. I remember in my school days i never had the guts to walk away from any fights. so i would either be suspended from school (if i won) or get the shit kicked out of me (if i lost)

also fights don't always end when the fights end. i beat a guy in a fight and on the way back from school his mates came at me in their ute and attacked me with hockey sticks!

so walking away can be the best thing you can do if you don't have a chance at winning.

[ww3sabiture]

iv had some one on one fights at school here is some steps on how to sent them to the ER
when he swings move to the out side grab his rist and punch his elbow wile your still on the side of him hit the bottom your foot on the side of his knee hard this will make him start to fall swing your knee in the lower rib cage and push down hard this will brake his rib cage let him fall to the ground and he wont be geting back up any time soon if he starts to get up brake his other arm put one foot at his rist kick his elbow like you would kick a can but hard this will hiper extend it and brake if you want you can kick him in the teeth

all that should take 45sec to 1min no one will mess with you after that and show no mercy or fear and dont brag about it

the most you could be charged with is exesive force
he wont be back for a wile but when he does dont let your gard down

[jrly]

Yeah and that is just so easy for an inexperienced fighter to do. creationx said that he hasn't done any fighting so this would be impossible for a beginner, let alone someone who has studied martial arts. This is basically the fight sequence from The Bourne Identity in the bank isn't?

[mopars69]

use your anger to ur advantage,think about something that really gets pissed the fuck off,and when u start fighting use ur adrenaline to ur advantage also.

[VillageIdiot]

Originally Posted by ThisDay

Weapons are for people who fail at life.

Weapons are for people who win fights.

[ww3sabiture]

Originally Posted by jrly

Yeah and that is just so easy for an inexperienced fighter to do. creationx said that he hasn't done any fighting so this would be impossible for a beginner, let alone someone who has studied martial arts. This is basically the fight sequence from The Bourne Identity in the bank isn't?

no my dad is in the mill he showed me how. i have never seen that movie is it good?
i have min H2H nolage all i know is some millitary stuff. i also help my friend when he wants to practice some new moves but needs some one to try and counter them.

[master lurtz]

Originally Posted by mopars69

use your anger to ur advantage,think about something that really gets u pissed the fuck off,and when u start fighting use ur adrenaline to ur advantage also.

Or not.... this can make you lose control, your better off to stay calm and collected with a clear mind. If you let anger controll you then you will just end up throwing a heap of pitiful blind punches and geting your ass kicked and looking like a fag.

And ww3sabiture you obvously dont know to much about human anatomy, explain how a knee will break a 'ribcage', maby one or two ribs, but not the entire ribcage which consists of 24 ribs, the sternum, costal cartilages, intercostal muscles, and the 12 thoracic vertebrae. The only way you could break all of that is with a steam roller.

Here is a tip: grab your phone book, look in the yellow pages for martial arts or boxing classes, stop describing random sequinces that you made up.

[ww3sabiture]

And ww3sabiture you obvously dont know to much about human anatomy, explain how a knee will break a 'ribcage', maby one or two ribs, but not the entire ribcage which consists of 24 ribs, the sternum, costal cartilages, intercostal muscles, and the 12 thoracic vertebrae. The only way you could break all of that is with a steam roller.


ah sounds like you know some stuff but did you think of factering in

weight, speed, force, placement, adrenilin (studys have shown it increases strength by up to 2X), and age?

thing that over and give me your awnser and i never said spine all i said was ribs

[master lurtz]

You said RIBCAGE and 'thechniacly' a ribcage consisists of all of these things "24 ribs, the sternum, costal cartilages, intercostal muscles, and the 12 thoracic vertebrae", the ribcage is what protects your lungs heart etc...
You said rib cage, you ment to say ribs, individual ribs and a ribcage are two different things, ribs being part of the so called "ribcage" are easily broken, as you said by a knee, elbow, powerful punch, kick etc etc, just not the "ribcage" you used the wrong word

Adrenaline can make you peform better, but you must not let youe self lose controll.

[VillageIdiot]

Nah man, he was talking about 'adrenilin', 'studys' have shown that it increases strength. Hahahahaha.

[Bundeswehr91]

well i would recomend a chin jab if you were facing one guy, look it up i have used it in many fights and have sent 2 people to the hospital for concussions from it

[Bundeswehr91]

Originally Posted by VillageIdiot

Weapons are for people who win fights.

haha good one

[Tane Te Tu]

I must laugh at all this, because all your fight sequences revolve around the idea that your opponent will attack the exact way you want them to, and that they will somehow resist the urge to bloke your attacks.

When you fight, throw punches and kicks until he or you drop, when you fight the first few times you will not be able to remember these 'sequences'. Nor will you be able to stick at the weak points with any precision.

Punch the head and kick the legs and just hope he is not doing the same.

[master lurtz]

Originally Posted by Tane Te Tu

I must laugh at all this, because all your fight sequences revolve around the idea that your opponent will attack the exact way you want them to, and that they will somehow resist the urge to bloke your attacks.

You have a good point, that is why people need TRAIN, I train in Taekwon-Do for about 5 hours a week. This usually includes fundamentals and padwork and free sparring. This builds up your reflexes and makes you adaptive which allows you to counter their blocks and attacks easily, and means that in real life when they block your attacks you will be able to react and adapt to what they are doing.

Originally Posted by Tane Te Tu

Punch the head and kick the legs and just hope he is not doing the same

Yea lets just hope they wont kick your ass. Fighting is as much about stratagy and reading your opponent as it is about brawn. Throwing punches and kicks and hoping they wont be fighting back will only give you about a 50/50 chance of winning (assuming they doing the same). My advice is to stay light on your feet, stay back a little, and read your opponent; see which foot they favour and what moves they repeat often etc, and then think of a way to beat them, and anticipate their moves. One accurate punch or elbow will do the same thing as fifty blind punches and kicks.


By the way New Zealand rocks brother!!!

[Tane Te Tu]

You sound like an experienced fighter.

We are talking bout some who is not.

The best he can hope for is 50/50.

Reading only comes with experience.

[master lurtz]

Originally Posted by Tane Te Tu

You sound like an experienced fighter. We are talking bout some who is not.

Yea I keep forgetting that.
But kids, take up a martial art, do some knuckle pressups, lift some weights, and in abought 6+ months time you will begin winning those school fights. And hopefully look cool while doing it.

[VillageIdiot]

Originally Posted by master lurtz

You have a good point, that is why people need TRAIN, I train in Taekwon-Do for about 5 hours a week. This usually includes fundamentals and padwork and free sparring. This builds up your reflexes and makes you adaptive which allows you to counter their blocks and attacks easily, and means that in real life when they block your attacks you will be able to react and adapt to what they are doing.

I do five hours a week TKD training and three hours teaching kids. It gives you a good feel of how an opponent moves in a fight, and also gives you resilience and balance. If you are doing TKD though it's best to pick a club that encourages matwork (wrestling, grappling etc) and sparring with decent contact (light contact point is good for reflexes and that's about it). I've seen clubs that only do point sparring and poomse, and that's it. They also wear a huge guard on their torso. Learn to take a freakin' strike will you, especially since there's padding on the feet and hands.

If you local TKD club doesn't tick these boxes, consider hapkido, the 'other Korean MA'. Read up on it. I know a guy who does Hapkido and he seems to have a very good sense of himself and how to apply himself against an opponent. I've wrestled him, trust me, lol. I won something like one out of five, but then again I'm a skinny guy (TKD build really, lol) Perhaps this one guy is not an accurate measure of how good Hapkido is, but from what I've seen it's pretty effective.

[master lurtz]

Please tell me you do ITF


ITF is much better if you want to learn self defence, WTF focuses more on the sport side of things.

Originally Posted by VillageIdiot

They also wear a huge guard on their torso. Learn to take a freakin' strike will you, especially since there's padding on the feet and hands.

Im guessing they do WTF cus they have the torso guards? (pussies)

[VillageIdiot]

Tournament-wise, we're WTF I think, but nobody wears the chestguard. I think the chestguard is just so less people get sued or something. The two acronyms are a bit dumb, International TKD Federation and World Taekwondo Federation. Wow, how different.

[master lurtz]

Yea the acronyms are prety stupid, but supposidly there are some quite distinct differences in style, but in not shure what though.

[Beyond]

TKD is useless, learn to grapple.

Anyone can throw a punch and connect, it's almost impossible to be as lucky with any sort of submission.

I can't tell you how many full fledged fights I've avoided by taking someone down, taking their back, and slightly sinking in a choke.