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Old 09-14-2008, 08:22 PM
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I was wondering if such a weapon would be viable?

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what do you mean by viable? do you mean practical or possible?

practicality: this weapon will never be used/produced (unless some guy wants to custom make it). regular guns are more efficient and rocket launchers do tons more damage. thus, this weapon is highly inefficient and impractical

possibility: almost none. rocket propulsion? i don't think the chainsaw would shoot straight. and it would have to be fired at a high velocity to keep a heavy chainsaw from not dropping as soon as it was shot. also, how long would it take to reload this badboy? further, this thing would be heavy as fuck...
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LOL poor Chechen bastards...
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what do you mean by viable? do you mean practical or possible?

practicality: this weapon will never be used/produced (unless some guy wants to custom make it). regular guns are more efficient and rocket launchers do tons more damage. thus, this weapon is highly inefficient and impractical

possibility: almost none. rocket propulsion? i don't think the chainsaw would shoot straight. and it would have to be fired at a high velocity to keep a heavy chainsaw from not dropping as soon as it was shot. also, how long would it take to reload this badboy? further, this thing would be heavy as fuck...
I was thinking possible as opposed to practical. There's no doubt in my mind such a weapon would violate several articles of the Geneva convention.
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I was thinking possible as opposed to practical. There's no doubt in my mind such a weapon would violate several articles of the Geneva convention.
alright. well i answered it both ways, so i think i pretty much covered your question. have anymore questions?
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Would there be any way to make a weapon similar to this? Like a sword-firing gun? Or a razor-launching canon? (They're a bit more aerodynamic)
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razor launching would be possible, i think. however, i advise obtaining a real gun. it's easier and not that expensive once you start working or getting money however you do.
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Nobody has yet considered that you cut using the top or bottom of the bar, and not the tip of it?
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Nobody has yet considered that you cut using the top or bottom of the bar, and not the tip of it?
I was wondering that too untill I got to randoms post. And I know a bit about flight and tragectory, fps and all that good stuff from bow hunting so.
1. To heavy, to shoot it you'll need a big ass propellent
2. flat blade, A very small breeze will blow it way off course...send it spinning and take out all kinds of shit except what you were shooting at.
3. Why. its too complicated to kill someone unless you shoot at very close range. And if you shoot a wall or tree or anthing it might cut it a little, and your giving your enemy a chain saw.
It might be possible to build but completly pointless.
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Nobody has yet considered that you cut using the top or bottom of the bar, and not the tip of it?
Are you talking about the chainsaw?

Anywhere that chain is, it will cut. I use the tip to score any trees I'm cutting at home. It's also good for smaller branches.

A chainsaw works by applying pressure on the portion of the chain you want to cut. You essentially force it to cut with it's "teeth".

If you're firing it, you're applying the forward pressure needed and assuming you can keep the throttle down and the chain spinning, those teeth will be moving and have the pressure needed when shot.

Assuming you can do all of this, I don't see why it wouldn't work. I've dropped chainsaws with the throttle still engaged and they've continued cutting, albeit into the ground.
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because it would need to be moving at high speeds and that would negate the teeth because it would bounce back of the target faster than the teeth could engage it. the only thing i could maybe see it doing (ignoring all the other problems) would be it sticking halfway through someone with the teeth still spinning slowly chopping them up
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I like this idea, very retro, it's not a new idea fireing blades, I was watchin weapon masters the other day and they said the chinese(clever fuckers them)were fireing rocket arrows hundreds of years ago then some bloke had the idea of fireing swords.

I think this would be great for crowd control(in an extremely violant way)it could be fired accross the floor, like say your in a survival situation and a mob has amassed to rob your ammo and supplies, if you use gas they come back with gas masks, you shoot at them they shoot back, however if you cut their feet off, then well their fucked, the chainsaw would run accross pre laid rails of course, one would'ent expect it to go anyware else except straight down if launced unguided out of a tube.

There is of course much easier methods but like I said, I just like this because it's different.
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Bloody hell, one of the first rules of weapons design _and_ fighting is to keep short range weapons short range and long range weaponsv long range. Think about it, man.
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Would it be an effective Fear Weapon? Like those big-ass cannons that were carried on trains that the Nazis had?
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Are you talking about the chainsaw?

Anywhere that chain is, it will cut. I use the tip to score any trees I'm cutting at home. It's also good for smaller branches.

A chainsaw works by applying pressure on the portion of the chain you want to cut. You essentially force it to cut with it's "teeth".
I'm surprised you haven't cut off your leg yet. If your try to cut anything of size with a chainsaw and you are using the tip, the chainsaw will kick back or fly to the side. If it is something small, yeah it will go right through but don't try to cut two inches diameter like this, in reality its best not cut with the tip at all.

I think this whole idea is really really stupid because its a waste of everything and you would get the same effect by shooting a really big pointy stick with a rocket on the back.
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Time for my two cents.

My grandfather was a logger so i know a little bit about kick-back. Not much of a problem with modern chainsaws with their fancy safteys and all, but when my grandpa was cutting down a tree once, he experienced kick-back. The saw flew back making a straight cut between his middle and ring finger, going all the way down to his wrist. So he completly sliced his hand in half. His brother was working with him so he made a turniket (apparently it is not in the firefox dictionary sorry) and managed to save him.

Out of the three hand doctors he went to, two told him he would lose his hand. But they managed to fix it.

So, i think all a chainsaw fired at you would do, is give you possibly a one inch deep laceration. Not a very effective weapon in my opinion.
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and the fear factor? i would think the enemy would find it laughable. bullets kill, so bullets work.
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bloodlusta is right. there are also other weapons (missiles, mortars, etc) that are exponentially more scary. shooting razor discs might work (like a skeet shooter), but its almost utterly pointless to mass produce knowing the destructive potential of modern day weapons.
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The "RPC" would be a great addition to this

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what the fuck is that
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what the fuck is that
it appears to be a crossbow with a laser sight attachment...
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