~#The OFFICIAL Training and Exercise Thread#~

[piemaker]

If i remember right back before the fall of bs, there was quite an extensive fitness/training topic up and running. Id like to see this up and going again, so to start it off. just post questions you might have, your way of training, different techniques, any thing relevent, just to get it up again.


Piemaker


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From Briceus2000

This is the Official Training and Exercise Thread. Once things are up and running it'll get made a sticky, and act as pool of information for all knowledge concerning training or exercise, as well as any questions or queries, links, resources, etc. As such, try to keep posts without an input to the minimum, and I'll be particularly harsh on any kewl, noob or troll posts.

[-inefficiency-]

Need an official training thread,

[blank stare]

I take stacker 2. Gives me a lot of energy, and I've definitely had results, but I've heard it puts stress on the heart.
I do crunches and pushups, plus running, that's about it.

[piemaker]

ya, thats what i was getting at, forgot what it was called, sadly enough

[Anti-Social]

stacker 2 is extremly helpful

[blank stare]

I totally agree. I have lost a lot of fat, but no weight. This means I am gaining muscle.

[Jago]

a training regime needs to be developed for the individual most of the time, but there are some basic principles that apply to each desired area/goal.

[dan_uk]

I'd definitely like some advice from someone who knows their stuff on coming up with a plan to help me get a bit fitter and gain a bit of muscle - i'm pretty tall but quite skinny, and i'd like to bulk up a bit. At the moment i run on a running machine once or twice a week, and do a few crunches and push-ups, but that's about it.

[Briceus2000]

Alright cats, this is now the official training and exercise thread, I'll sticky it for a while to see how it takes off, with any luck we'll get something akin to the old days. When I've got more time tonight I'll make more of a contribution.

[Kaos-theory]

well guys lets see......

ive got my barbell set up at 6kg, 3kg each side. my dumbell set at 8kg, 4kg each side,

i mainly do reps ont he barbell about 20 rest 20 rest and so-on, i usualy do about four reps on each arm with the 8kg dumbell,

i do the barbell before bed and the dumbell when ever i have a spare moment in the day

[Jago]

Originally Posted by dan_uk

I'd definitely like some advice from someone who knows their stuff on coming up with a plan to help me get a bit fitter and gain a bit of muscle - i'm pretty tall but quite skinny, and i'd like to bulk up a bit. At the moment i run on a running machine once or twice a week, and do a few crunches and push-ups, but that's about it.

what is your goal? and what are the specific goals of your training? bulk? speed? strength? toned/definition?

[-inefficiency-]

Hey guys, some advice would be nice .

I'm about 6' 4" and I'd like to think I'm relatively strong, however I am also quite skinny so I don't really look it.
I would like to look into getting some upper body bulk. Especially around my skinny shoulders.
I'd like this bulk for both aesthetic reasons and because I feel I could do with a little more strength.

I havent really got any targets, because I don't know much about this kinda stuff. I havent got any of my own weights or equipment, so its prettymuch gonna have to be without equipment, or budget methods.

Also, I hurt my back pretty bad last night, so I'm thinking I should wait a bit til it gets better before I start. Maybe a week or two.

[Kaos-theory]

get your back checked out,

before undertaking any wieght training. go and see the doctor. and explain what you want to do trainging wise and get him tio check you over so he can say yey you can go playw ith waits instead of, sorry sir you have a serious heart condition no goign to the gym for you im afraid.

[-inefficiency-]

I'm gonna leave it a few days, and if it doesnt get better then I'm gonna go to the doctors. Don't worry, I'm not gonna go and try to lift weights with a bad back, I'd rather wait and be successful than fuck myself up permanently by being impatient.

[Briceus2000]

Outside of Martial Arts classes and whatnot, which in themselves not only take up an obscene amount of time, but both are inherently and incorporate within exercises for speed, coordination, flexibility, strength, etc. I like to do chinups in the morning and before bed, pretty much until I can't do any more. This is nice and cheap, and you can get a special kind of bar attachment to put in your doorway for around £5 - £20 sterling for just this kind of thing. This particular exercise would be especially useful for building upper body muscles.

Another nice training technique is using wrist and ankle weights to their full potential. These are very cheap, and though they don't usually weigh huge amounts, you can wear two or three of the heaviest kind on each arm/leg for any aerobics, martial art or other exercise, this significantly increases the benefit gained, and if you really want to, and get bored with keeping up an exercise regimen, you can opt to keep them on 24/7 (as I did, rather obsessively, for about a year), taking them off only to wash or to readjust for comfort. they can be hidden under loose fitting clothes, although can't really be used with T-shirts or shorts, also, with wrist weights, there is a possibility it could produce wear on the joints, and so the entire length of use should be supplemented with Cod Liver Oil pills, or similar.

I'm musing really, as I've never personally had a problem with being underweight, so I'm not able too draw much on past experience, however, it has always seemed to me that Military Training manuals are a really good resource, and should be relatively easy to find on the internet or Kazaa, etc. Once the Bombshock DB is up and running I'll put a load of them up, in the meantime they should be freely available for those willing to look.

[-inefficiency-]

Thanks Brice, thats exactly what I was looking for.

Chinups would be perfect. I always thought I'd need some big expensive piece of equipment or a horizontal pipe in the cellar :P - but one of those door attachments would be perfect.
I'm assuming that since I'm kinda underweight, using those weights might help a bit seeing as I don't weight much anyway :P.

How about pushups? I normally do them, but all they seemed to do was make me very slightly stronger, but not any bulkier.

One last thing, if I remember correctly, I should be doing the majority of the exercises every other day to allow my muscles to regenerate inbetween? Maybe do everything on a monday, just pushups on tuesday, everything on wednesday, etc etc....

[Kaos-theory]

i do it daily
using weights slowly tears the muscle and its needs rest to rebuild. so i do everythign mainly before i go to sleep so i have the night to rebuild muscles, and a good part of the day too.

[Jago]

Originally Posted by -inefficiency-

Hey guys, some advice would be nice .

I'm about 6' 4" and I'd like to think I'm relatively strong, however I am also quite skinny so I don't really look it.
I would like to look into getting some upper body bulk. Especially around my skinny shoulders.
I'd like this bulk for both aesthetic reasons and because I feel I could do with a little more strength.

I havent really got any targets, because I don't know much about this kinda stuff. I havent got any of my own weights or equipment, so its prettymuch gonna have to be without equipment, or budget methods.

Also, I hurt my back pretty bad last night, so I'm thinking I should wait a bit til it gets better before I start. Maybe a week or two.

Train power and resistance for a bit, as well as swimming and light jogging for fitness and stamina.
As for weights, with the power and resistance, do power once or twice a week, and the rest resistance.
Resistance is usually medium/light weight with high repetition, and train till failure to ensure all muscular fibres are used.
With power training, train heavy weight, low rep, to ensure muscular density, tendon strength, etc.

[dan_uk]

Originally Posted by x

SPHYNX[x]

what is your goal? and what are the specific goals of your training? bulk? speed? strength? toned/definition?

Well i think i'm pretty similar to inefficiency, in that i'm tall and skinny, and want to both bulk up a bit to look good, but at the same time get a bit stronger and a bit fitter - improve my body in pretty much all ways really (a tall order i know)

At the moment that's not too specific though, so i'll start with a more directed question - are there any exercises/routines i can do other than straight sit-ups/crunches to improve my abs? My gf has been bugging me to get a 6-pack, though she obviously doesn't realise it requires a bit of time and effort! Anything you could come up with to help with that goal would be most helpful, i'll ask about other areas later

Thanks!

[Kaos-theory]

to create a six pack:

1x super glue
6x beers

glue the 6 beers together and bingo you have a 6 pack.


keep doing what your doing because over time that will help the other muscles. i know sit ups help the abs and theres an activity in volving a ball that helps develop abs

[FerretBone]

Every moring i get up and do 1 hour of muscle failer, or running.
muscle failer is pushups, sit ups, and flutter kicks untill you cant go any more.
Running is four miles or more every other day, sometimes with flatvest on. We do four miles in less than 25 minutes.
Anyways with all that PT its still not enough to form my body like i would want. I am going to have to change my drinking ,and eating habits. PT just is not enough. Not for me.