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So who picked up being an assassin or hitman is allot harder then just shooting a "sniper" rifle?

Ok I'll figure up a JFK high profile type target...
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OK here is your target...
Target:
Jeff Winsor (read name Ivan Ivonavich)
Age: 73
Heigth: 6'1"
Wieght: 210lbs (athletic)
History:
A former Spetanaz Officer turned intelligence agent, turned terrorist supplier & philantrpist. His income comes from investments in diamonds in Africa & Russia, Oil in South America, various Sweat Shops in India & China, as well as drugs & international arms trade. As such he travels from large private estate to large private estate & has a security detail made up of children (between the ages of 5 to 7) who are recruited from 3rd World Countries and trained in a private estate for approximately 12 years, in basic and advanced military training.

Most these kids are well educated inthese estates aside from their military based training, females and some males are trained in Intelligence work to observe, inflitrate & report back to Ivonavich. All soldiers speak Russina, English, French, Spanish & Latin

Security:
Unknown system but both visible & concealed CCTV cameras exist at each estate, motion actived lights and between 8 to 12 attack dogs roam the estate grounds freely. Visible patrols appear armed with AK47 type weapons & a handgun for back up. Snipers can be seen in the towers in the wooded grounds on the estate. Ivonavich never makes public appearances, uses 3 dummy cars and 2 doubles, plus flies by 2 different plans when travelling.

You have 2 weeks to prep and one shot at hitting this guy. Your fee is $1 Milillion but you only get $500,000 up front. Your orders are simple; shoot Ivan in the back of skull execution style and leave a letter saying "Thus all Sins." kill NO ONE ELSE... Weather has forced both planes to land in Switzerland & neither can fly for 3 weeks do to the weather. It will take you one week to hike in, Ivan is in a small country inn & is accompanied by a Nurse & Doctor which always travel with him, a female assistant, his chief body guard & 8 armed guards. As well as Saber his Husky/Wolf pet.
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Jeff Winsor (read name Ivan Ivonavich)
HA - a more russian name there never was.

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Age: 73
Heigth: 6'1"
Wieght: 210lbs (athletic)
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A former Spetanaz Officer turned intelligence agent, turned terrorist supplier & philantrpist. His income comes from investments in diamonds in Africa & Russia, Oil in South America, various Sweat Shops in India & China, as well as drugs & international arms trade.
So he's a philanthropist/oil baron/diamond miner to the public and an arms dealer/drug lord/sweat shop operator to his clients.

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As such he travels from large private estate to large private estate & has a security detail made up of children (between the ages of 5 to 7) who are recruited from 3rd World Countries and trained in a private estate for approximately 12 years, in basic and advanced military training.

Most these kids are well educated inthese estates aside from their military based training, females and some males are trained in Intelligence work to observe, inflitrate & report back to Ivonavich. All soldiers speak Russina, English, French, Spanish & Latin
For the purposes of the mission, I assume they consider him a father figure and would remain unquestionably loyal.

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Unknown system but both visible & concealed CCTV cameras exist at each estate, motion actived lights and between 8 to 12 attack dogs roam the estate grounds freely. Visible patrols appear armed with AK47 type weapons & a handgun for back up. Snipers can be seen in the towers in the wooded grounds on the estate. Ivonavich never makes public appearances, uses 3 dummy cars and 2 doubles, plus flies by 2 different plans when travelling.
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You have 2 weeks to prep and one shot at hitting this guy. Your fee is $1 Milillion but you only get $500,000 up front. Your orders are simple; shoot Ivan in the back of skull execution style and leave a letter saying "Thus all Sins." kill NO ONE ELSE... Weather has forced both planes to land in Switzerland & neither can fly for 3 weeks do to the weather. It will take you one week to hike in, Ivan is in a small country inn & is accompanied by a Nurse & Doctor which always travel with him, a female assistant, his chief body guard & 8 armed guards. As well as Saber his Husky/Wolf pet.
So his current location is an inn in Switzerland?
Personnel in the area are:
Ivan himself
One Nurse
One Doctor
Personal assistant
Personal body guard
8 patrol guards
1 Dog

Interesting.

Questions:
Can I assume he flies via private gulf streams?
What's the outside temperature at this Inn?
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So he's a philanthropist/oil baron/diamond miner to the public and an arms dealer/drug lord/sweat shop operator to his clients. ?
Thats the intel

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For the purposes of the mission, I assume they consider him a father figure and would remain unquestionably loyal.
Yes, & you can assume they are highly killed...

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So his current location is an inn in Switzerland?
Personnel in the area are:
Ivan himself
One Nurse
One Doctor
Personal assistant
Personal body guard
8 patrol guards
1 Dog

Interesting.
Plus the groundsman & old couple who own the inn. Its not tourist season so it's just them...

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Can I assume he flies via private gulf streams? ?\
Sometimes & sometimes not, hes generally unpredictable in his travel plans...

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What's the outside temperature at this Inn?
During the day between 0 & -20 with windchill, at night between -30 & -50 with windchill. Also heavy winds comming through cannon.
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Yes, & you can assume they are highly killed...
Which is why I intend on completely avoiding a confrontation.

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Sometimes & sometimes not, hes generally unpredictable in his travel plans...
Understood, but no self-respecting arms dealer/rich guy in general would fly commercial.

Observing the nearest airfield:
I've recorded and run the tail numbers - are any of the aircraft his?

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During the day between 0 & -20 with windchill, at night between -30 & -50 with windchill. Also heavy winds comming through cannon.
Ooh goody that works out well.
Are there any other structures in the area?

Additionally, distance surveillance of the inn:
Zeiss Victory Diascope 85 T* FL Package - 85mm Spotting Scope, Angled Viewing with Vario 20-60x Eyepiece FREE S&H 1527 140, 1527 144. Zeiss Spotting Scopes. -$2,350.00

Surveillance should allow me to gain a description of opfor individual outfitting.

What do they have?
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Understood, but no self-respecting arms dealer/rich guy in general would fly commercial.

Observing the nearest airfield:
I've recorded and run the tail numbers - are any of the aircraft his?
No rental but he does own nine G5s & a each estate has unarmed, decomissioned Hinds.

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Ooh goody that works out well.
Are there any other structures in the area?
Yes the Inn sets on the outskirts of a rural town...
Several small shops & stores with up stairs apartments and several smaller cottage style homes. Mostly this town makes money as a ski resort village but out of season it has little to offer. Also you have a large ski resort building 4 miles up the mountains.

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Zeiss Victory Diascope 85 T* FL Package - 85mm Spotting Scope, Angled Viewing with Vario 20-60x Eyepiece FREE S&H 1527 140, 1527 144. Zeiss Spotting Scopes. -$2,350.00

Surveillance should allow me to gain a description of opfor individual outfitting.

What do they have?
Don't forget your snivel gear.
Them, no visible weapons, white snow parkas & snow shoes. There is 4 feet of snow with 14 foot drafts along the valley floor. So some travel in town is done via snow tunnels. The inn has 1 suite & 6 rooms. Ivan, his dog, his chief body guard & the nurse are in the suite, the doctor gets his own room, and 2 guards to each room with the last room for the assistant. A tall shapely Russia Blonde woman. Ivan's suite has a fire place but there is always a roaring fire in it at all times.
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Them, no visible weapons, white snow parkas & snow shoes.
The bad guys don't have weapons I can see? No rifles? This may be easier than previously assumed.

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There is 4 feet of snow with 14 foot drafts along the valley floor. So some travel in town is done via snow tunnels. The inn has 1 suite & 6 rooms. Ivan, his dog, his chief body guard & the nurse are in the suite, the doctor gets his own room, and 2 guards to each room with the last room for the assistant. A tall shapely Russia Blonde woman. Ivan's suite has a fire place but there is always a roaring fire in it at all times.
I need a building layout and opfor/civilian positions.
Who's room is where and where are the outdoor guards.

This is shaping up alot less like a hit and alot more like a military effort. Keeping it to a single fatality is going to require the use of some advanced weapons systems and some imported toys from the ever-industrious little communists in China.
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Ah can't tell with a 12 foot snow bank against the side of inn, you have one clear view of the target's window within the in. You were about to pick who was in what room by looking at the assistant's legal pad, as she often stands infront of the windows in Ivan's room.

And again don't forget the gear you'll need to get into the area, out of the area & not die of exposure...
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Ah can't tell with a 12 foot snow bank against the side of inn, you have one clear view of the target's window within the in. You were about to pick who was in what room by looking at the assistant's legal pad, as she often stands infront of the windows in Ivan's room.

And again don't forget the gear you'll need to get into the area, out of the area & not die of exposure...
I'm still planning on what materials I'll need to get in and out with the cold, but I'm more concerned with taking on his guards with the restriction on killing any of them.

Supplies thus far:
$150 Snow Mobile - rented in town
$237 Snow Shoes - specific model chosen for maneuverability - sprayed white
Boulder Outdoor Center
$500 10 Taser Xrep rounds (normally sold to LE for $20 per round)
Video of XREP Wireless Taser Shotgun Shocking Some Dude - Gadgets - Gizmodo
$54 Stun Baton
Welcome to the Army Surplus 1 Online Store
$125 Underarmor Cold Gear Pants, Shirt, and Hood (in white).
Under Armour Men's ColdGear - Under Armour Cold Gear - ColdGear Mocks - ColdGear Leggings - Under Armour® Cold Gear
$450 ACU cold weather jacket and pants (snow camo).
Army Combat Uniform (ACU) Wet / Cold Weather Gear NSN's - ArmyProperty.com
$400 Mossberg 500 tactical.
Mossberg 500 Tactical Shotgun - Shotguns - Tactical equipment, self

That's not all, but that's what I expect to use.

Current total: $495,734
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Ok I'm with you... Continue in your planning/intelligence gathering.
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Ok I'm with you... Continue in your planning/intelligence gathering.
I still need a layout and positions of exterior guards from before.
Also, How many floors are there, and what floor are they on?
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And how do plan to get this intell the client doesn't even know. Thats all something you'll have to figure when you get there. Thus the goal; pre-planning and improvising. You guestimate what you'll need and carry it in with you? Oh and the target will be on the second floor, observable from the ski resort but with the snow observation won't do much good alone.
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And how do plan to get this intell the client doesn't even know. Thats all something you'll have to figure when you get there. Thus the goal; pre-planning and improvising. You guestimate what you'll need and carry it in with you? Oh and the target will be on the second floor, observable from the ski resort but with the snow observation won't do much good alone.
The client knows which rooms the guards, assistant, doctor, and Ivan himself are situated in, but doesn't know where each room is - that sounds incredibly unlikely.

Secondly, I made it clear that I was making a preliminary intel gethering trip before the actual hit. Hence how I gained intel on the opfor's outfitting, the temperature, etc.

If you recall, the long distance observation should have told me the equipment of the opfor as well as their positions around the exterior of the inn. You already told me what the equipment was based on those observations - I'm waiting for their positions, since there's no logical reason why I would know what they're carrying but not where they're standing.

The layout of almost any building can be surmised by looking at the position of the windows in comparison to the number of rooms.

You said that the inn has 1 suite and 6 rooms. I can surmise that the suite is on the top floor (2nd in this case) - as suite's traditionally are. You also said that I can see his assistant through one of the windows - there's no reason I shouldn't be able to see through windows on the other sides of the inn.

Window position, room features you can gather by looking in the windows, and the number of rooms per floor should provide a floor plan detailed enough to work with.
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Jeff Winsor (read name Ivan Ivonavich)
Ivanovich, and any other name with a "-vich" suffix are never last names in the Russian language. It's a suffix that shows the name of your father, who in the case of our friend Ivan, also happened to be Ivan. If you really wanted to use "Ivan" in the last name, you could have Ivanoff or Ivanov (the former the more Americanized and stupid-looking, the latter truer but easier to pronounce incorrectly). The guy's name would then be Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov.

Other than that, this is very amusing to read. Keep going.

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Ivanovich, and any other name with a "-vich" suffix are never last names in the Russian language. It's a suffix that shows the name of your father, who in the case of our friend Ivan, also happened to be Ivan. If you really wanted to use "Ivan" in the last name, you could have Ivanoff or Ivanov (the former the more Americanized and stupid-looking, the latter truer but easier to pronounce incorrectly). The guy's name would then be Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov.

Other than that, this is very amusing to read. Keep going.
Great, did you have something relevant to say?
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The client knows which rooms the guards, assistant, doctor, and Ivan himself are situated in, but doesn't know where each room is - that sounds incredibly unlikely.

Secondly, I made it clear that I was making a preliminary intel gethering trip before the actual hit. Hence how I gained intel on the opfor's outfitting, the temperature, etc.

If you recall, the long distance observation should have told me the equipment of the opfor as well as their positions around the exterior of the inn. You already told me what the equipment was based on those observations - I'm waiting for their positions, since there's no logical reason why I would know what they're carrying but not where they're standing.

The layout of almost any building can be surmised by looking at the position of the windows in comparison to the number of rooms.

You said that the inn has 1 suite and 6 rooms. I can surmise that the suite is on the top floor (2nd in this case) - as suite's traditionally are. You also said that I can see his assistant through one of the windows - there's no reason I shouldn't be able to see through windows on the other sides of the inn.

Window position, room features you can gather by looking in the windows, and the number of rooms per floor should provide a floor plan detailed enough to work with.
Not at all true, you have large snow drifts against the side of inn, remember one such snow draft hides the inn lower then the targets suit. You are also talkinh about individuals very will trained to opporate in this environment. All other visible rooms including the targets keep the windows closed.

Also these guards do not stand in the same place, even when pulling guard duty on the front door, they use diffent locations so you need to be specific. ABout what your looking for.
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Not at all true, you have large snow drifts against the side of inn, remember one such snow draft hides the inn lower then the targets suit. You are also talkinh about individuals very will trained to opporate in this environment. All other visible rooms including the targets keep the windows closed.

Also these guards do not stand in the same place, even when pulling guard duty on the front door, they use diffent locations so you need to be specific. ABout what your looking for.
You're contradicting yourself Draven.

In another post, you said I could see writing on his assistant's clipboard through his window - how could I see that if the window is closed?

Keep some continuity here.
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You're contradicting yourself Draven.

In another post, you said I could see writing on his assistant's clipboard through his window - how could I see that if the window is closed?

Keep some continuity here.
Shelton, being able to see the clip board when the assistant or whomever "sometimes" opens the window curtains. So now we know the windows stay closed except at certain times. But your still not being specific...

Also things change, the point of this one is adaptation on the fly...
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Shelton, being able to see the clip board when the assistant or whomever "sometimes" opens the window curtains. So now we know the windows stay closed except at certain times. But your still not being specific...

Also things change, the point of this one is adaptation on the fly...
In other words, "Oops, I forgot I said that."

Give me a break Draven, you're making it a point to avoid giving me information that by all logical reason I should already have.
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