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Ok this was inspired by the Hitman thread but it has some fun aspects. Simply put its an RPG game of sorts without dice rolling.
Here is the Mission:
You are paid $15,000 to hit a pimp that lives in the pent house of a hotel & has around him at all times; 4 to 8 hookers & 3 guys as muscle. One is his driver.
Questions come as this;
Whats your plan?
How do you plan to get the intell on the hit?
What tools & weapons are you going to use?
What you get must a: be paid for with your fee & b: must have a link to it to show its real.
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I assume we can ask questions to fill out details.
All of these could be answered by calling the hotel or booking a room overnight (-200 from fee) and looking around.
1: Does the hotel offer room service to the penthouse?
2: Is there a security camera in the elevator to the room or in the stairwell?
3: Does access to the penthouse require a private code or key (as many do)?
Additional questions
1: Are there any modifications to his vehicle.
2: What kind of vehicle does he drive (make and model).
3: I assume we've already been supplied with a picture of the target. Is he a regular at any local clubs or bars - if so, -$100 for intel bribe.
Also, is eliminating the target the only objective or are we expected to do it without secondary casualties?
$14,800 remaining (pending club question)
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Originally Posted by shetlan  I assume we can ask questions to fill out details. | That was the idea... Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan 1: Does the hotel offer room service to the penthouse? | Yes... Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan 2: Is there a security camera in the elevator to the room or in the stairwell? | Yes... Hotel has 1 night maid, 1 day maid, 3 people in the kitchen which handles room service & the ball room. 2 Desk clerks, 1 doorman & 1 fat lazy security guard. On staff... Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan 3: Does access to the penthouse require a private code or key (as many do)? | No, penthouse elevator is accessed through getting off the regular elevator at the top floor then down the hall to Penthouse elevator. Security guard checks with desk for Penthouse Access. Once out the elevator you have a huge steel door, well decorated that requires a key. Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan Additional questions
1: Are there any modifications to his vehicle. | Not that you can tell... Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan 2: What kind of vehicle does he drive (make and model). | Drop top Purple 77 Cati Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan 3: I assume we've already been supplied with a picture of the target. Is he a regular at any local clubs or bars - if so, -$100 for intel bribe. | How would you know..? He usually drives around in his Cati and his goons collect miney from his hoes. Sometimes he is never in the Cati when they come to collect their cash. He has parties at the Penthouse and thats only for his "close friends" and business partners. He also uses the local gangs to push the crack he brews in his penthouse. Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan Also, is eliminating the target the only objective or are we expected to do it without secondary casualties?
$14,800 remaining (pending club question) | No mention on how just that it gets done...
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10-09-2009, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Draven Drop top Purple 77 Cati | Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven How would you know..? | Take his picture to a few bar tenders and bouncers and ask if they've seen him.
From your responce, I assume the answer was 'no'. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven He also uses the local gangs to push the crack he brews in his penthouse. | High or low grade?
$14,750
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Originally Posted by shetlan Take his picture to a few bar tenders and bouncers and ask if they've seen him.
From your responce, I assume the answer was 'no'. | Bingo... You'll get allot of "fuck offs" instead. You'll get some info from crack heads though, good O'l crack heads. And you'll pick up a tail from asking around. Come on an "outsider" asking about a neighborhood player. You know this... Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan High or low grade?
$14,750 | Both, he deals to everyone and uses the hookers to get people started... Deals to the gangs for extra muscle and protection.
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Originally Posted by Draven Bingo... You'll get allot of "fuck offs" instead. You'll get some info from crack heads though, good O'l crack heads. And you'll pick up a tail from asking around. Come on an "outsider" asking about a neighborhood player. You know this... | And why would the crack heads know? The gangs deal for him, his muscle picks up the money, by all reason the crackheads shouldn't have any worthwhile intel.
On the other hand, bus boys, waiters, bartenders - none of these people have any loyalty to him.
Incidentally, if the answer is "fuck off" then you can surmise that he IS a regular (or possible a part owner in the location). Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Both, he deals to everyone and uses the hookers to get people started... Deals to the gangs for extra muscle and protection. | Hmm, potential there.
Okay, working out a few kinks and making sure my supplies are available enough.
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Originally Posted by shetlan And why would the crack heads know? The gangs deal for him, his muscle picks up the money, by all reason the crackheads shouldn't have any worthwhile intel. | Exactly why the Crackheads will know, they are often over looked and pick up pieces of info from several different people. Knowing who the source and being able to deal with that source is very different things... Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan On the other hand, bus boys, waiters, bartenders - none of these people have any loyalty to him.
Incidentally, if the answer is "fuck off" then you can surmise that he IS a regular (or possible a part owner in the location). | Not really if your a cop asking around and they have criminal activity in their establishment they will cover allot of it up. They either "don't know anything" or they "No oblay English" or they tell you to "Fuck off we don't deal with them kinds of people in here..." Its all in saving their asses, they talk and someone might go after them & their's. Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan Hmm, potential there.
Okay, working out a few kinks and making sure my supplies are available enough. |
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For the sake of avoiding collateral damage as well as multiple locks and alarms at the hotel - I've chosen to stage the hit in the street.
Supplies
2 MAC-11’s built from kits (no serial or dealer records) [-1,000 with mags and ammo)
1 Remote kill switch [-75 with relay for car battery]
1 IP camera [-60]
1 shopping cart (free)
1 large blanket from goodwill [-25]
1 U-Haul van [free/stolen]
1 laptop (or netbook) [-180]
1 outfit of oversized clothes from your local goodwill [-20]
1 dirty wig [-10]
1 knit cap [-5]
1 pair of gloves [-5]
1 pack of latex gloves [-5]
1 can WD-40 [-5]
IP Camera Low Lux Advance IP Kamera 9060A-SL Internet IP Camera (Blue) IP Kamera 9060A
MAC-11 Lowers – other parts available from Cobray or online dealers COBRAY M-11 MAC 11 380 SMG LOWER RECEIVER FLAT : Parts / Accessories at GunBroker.com
Netbook eCOST.com-HP Mini 1010NR 1.6GHz Intel Atom Netbook w/ Webcam - FT315UAR#ABA - HP FT315UAR#ABA (Notebooks) - eCOST.com - electronics, computers, laptops, mp3 players
Kill Switch Remote Kill Switch Product page
Preparation
1: Determine the date of the target’s next car trip. Disable any cameras that may be in the hotel’s parking garage. Break into the target’s car and pop the hood. Install the kill switch. (disabling the cams and installing the switch should take no more than 10minutes).
2: Confirm by placing an IP camera in the parking garage that accommodates the hotel’s vehicles – with the camera facing the target’s car. This will allow you to confirm his presence in the vehicle.
3: Outline and practice your escape route, which should be close and free of security cameras. Park your van there and keep the WD-40 in the front seat.
Execution
1: Using the items from goodwill, you disguise yourself as a homeless man, hiding your MACs under your jacket. In this disguise, you push a cart holding your computer and kill switch remote. Position yourself near a chosen stoplight or sign that follows the target’s typical route. You should be wearing a pair of latex gloves under your other gloves.
2: Watching the IP cam, make sure the target is in the vehicle and observe which seat he occupies.
3: Checking first for police, wait till the target’s vehicle approaches the light and kill the power – this stops the vehicle in the front of the lane.
4: When the bodyguards get out to push the car out of the street (or to see what’s wrong), push your cart along toward them.
5: When you’re within 5 feet, shove the cart into moving traffic (likely causing multiple accidents and blocking the way for police to arrive), draw weapons and place a 5 shot burst into both bodyguards, followed by emptying the weapons into the target. Leave the guns at the scene.
6: Run off on your escape route after you’ve turned a corner or two you can slow to a normal walking pace. Get to your van and take off the disguise and the outer gloves – drop them in a grocery bag and drive to a waypoint where you can leave the van and walk to where you’re staying.
7: Spray the van down with WD-40 to hinder printing.
8: Burn your disguise.
When the target's penthouse is searched during the investigation, the police will discover his drug manufacturing and prostitution operations.
Given the weapons used (MAC-11s), his death will likely be blamed on the local gangs.
Gross Pay $15,000
Expences $1,640
Net Pay $13,360
I was considering using the ether produced by the drug production in combination with an oxy-acetylene bomb, but there's no guarantee that the ether would be plentiful enough to cause an assuredly fatal blast.
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Wow... A bit too high tech for me I'd have went with an AR10 or a Browning BAR Safari Rifle (thats a .308 caliber not a 223 for those who don't know) from a near by roof top, with mercury filled hollow tips (2 shots center mass & 2 more to his body on the ground) & a pipe bomb wired to the door on a trip wire.
I'd get my cloths from goodwill or the salvation army to but I'd look like a gang member. Make the hit and wire the pipe bomb for my exit then leave the AR10 near a gang's safe house to let the police find them. If I cop gets hit with the pipe bomb they'll clear out the whole block while I'm gone on my way. Steal a car approximately an hour before taking my position...
Cloths ($5)
Pipe Bomb ($10 for pipe & $17 for black powder)
Latex Gloves (free/stolen from Hospital Bathroom)
Baby Wipes (free/shoplifted from Dollar Store)
Car (free/stolen from out of town)
AR 10A4 ($1,387.63) if a distance less then 100 yards...
Browning BAR Safari Rifle ($907.50) if a distance greater then 100 yards, I want semi-auto & more shots then 4+1 if I need to be close enough an untrained shooter could hit if they have any rifles up there.
Browning BAR Safari: Browning BAR Safari Rifle 031001218, 308 Win, 22", Semi-Auto, Walnut Stock, Blue Finish, No Sights
AR10: Armalite Model AR10A4 Semi Auto Carbine 10A4F, 308 Winchester, 20 in Chrome Lined, Green Synthetic S
Cloths + Pipe Bomb + AR10 = $13,580.37
Cloths + Pipe Bomb + Browning BAR Safari = $14,060.50
Fun little game your turn...
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I'm confused, what's the purpose of the pipe bomb?
Secondly, precise shots with specialized poisoned bullets - that screams "hitman". Nobody will buy that as a gang kill.
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AS BEFORE: You must answer:
What’s your plan?
How do you plan to get the intelligence on the hit?
What tools & weapons are you going to use?
What you get must a: be paid for with your fee & b: must have a link to it to show its real.
Location New York City
Target: Chris North
Occupation: President and CEO of North Imports
Marital Status: Married
Age: 48
Height: 6’1”
Weight: 225 lbs
Health: Excellent
Notes:
North lives with his wife and two teenage children in a massive home on the Upper East Side (park avenue no less).
North’s business office is 15stories up a 5th Ave office building.
North is often in the public eye because of his charismatic personality.
He is well liked by his employees.
Provisions:
You have a description and a picture of the target.
Client Parameters:
0 collateral - ONLY the target may be harmed.
Death must appear to be a suicide or natural causes.
Pay is $75,000
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Originally Posted by shetlan I'm confused, what's the purpose of the pipe bomb?
Secondly, precise shots with specialized poisoned bullets - that screams "hitman". Nobody will buy that as a gang kill. | Not exactly, the pipe bomb serves a dual purpose...
Rear security, primarily; since I don't know what kind of weapons they have in the penthouse, I could be hit with suppressive fire from an AK or two and have a third try to make it to me. I can always remove it in my escape but if you try to sneak up on me I'm covered. Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan AS BEFORE: You must answer:
What’s your plan? | Poison/Over dose Suicide Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan How do you plan to get the intelligence on the hit? | Casual Observation, Phone Calls & Myspace, My year Book, Facebook etc... Quote:
Originally Posted by shetlan What tools & weapons are you going to use? | Not determined as yet...
Intelligence is gonna be simple enough, deliever a dozen roses & a stuff puppy dog to the Target's wife after observing him leave for work. Stuff puppy dog will of course be wired and have a portable monitor. Roses and Puppy Dog will be addressed to him from his "Secret Friend Laura." Which will read "Its more then puppy love..."
Thats gonna cause family in-fighting and give me a bit of intell. After she gets up set, or doesn't I'll call her from a track phone and inform her that "Mr. North's joint bank account with Mrs. Laura Winters at BB & T is over drawn and has been for the past month & that repeated letters have been sent to the West Side Manhattan Address." Then observe for intell.
Baby Monitor Hidden Cam ($170.95); Baby Monitor Hidden Camera | Nanny Cam
Observe as a Homeless Man from a near by alley ($5 from goodwill)
AAA batteries ($2.50)
Running Total: $74,821.05
So what will I learn..?
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Originally Posted by Draven Not exactly, the pipe bomb serves a dual purpose...
Rear security, primarily; since I don't know what kind of weapons they have in the penthouse, I could be hit with suppressive fire from an AK or two and have a third try to make it to me. I can always remove it in my escape but if you try to sneak up on me I'm covered. | So it's covering the building you're on the roof of. I would have just propped up a cane to hold the door shut, but to each his won. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Poison/Over dose Suicide | Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Casual Observation, Phone Calls & Myspace, My year Book, Facebook etc... | The PR wing of North's company maintains his Facebook and Myspace pages.
The pages are designed to keep his public image well liked and contain no reliable details. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Intelligence is gonna be simple enough, deliever a dozen roses & a stuff puppy dog to the Target's wife after observing him leave for work. Stuff puppy dog will of course be wired and have a portable monitor. Roses and Puppy Dog will be addressed to him from his "Secret Friend Laura." Which will read "Its more then puppy love..." | His wife pretends to read the card outloud to the kids: "Mrs North, thank you for your continued help in keeping the East Side Animal shelter running." She then pockets the card to avoid allowing the kids to see it.
The kids leave for school.
The wife places a call to an unknown recipient: "Hello, I have additional details that might be of use. Apparently Chris is also having an affair with a woman named Laura. . . I don't have a description, just a flowers and a stuffed dog addressed to Chris. . . Thank you Milo."
Shortly after, you receive a text reguarding the second girlfriend. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Thats gonna cause family in-fighting and give me a bit of intell. After she gets up set, or doesn't I'll call her from a track phone and inform her that "Mr. North's joint bank account with Mrs. Laura Winters at BB & T is over drawn and has been for the past month & that repeated letters have been sent to the West Side Manhattan Address." Then observe for intell. | The wife asks how much the account is overdrawn for and asks for the account number so she can wire in a balance. After receiving the fake numbers you provide, she again calls an unknown recipient: "Hello, I have more information on the second girlfriend. Her name is "Laura Winters" and she has a joint account with Chris at "BB&T" - here's the number. . . Ask your man if he can deal with her to, I don't want to fight some bimbo over a joint bank account. If he can, it needs to look unrelated. Thank you Milo."
Not wanting to keep momentos of her husband's indiscretions, she throws the dog and flowers away.
Shortly after, you receive a text updating the intell on the second girlfriend. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven | Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven So what will I learn..? | That his wife is the client and has hired you through a proxy named Milo.
While the children left, you would have heard their maid, Rosa, be mentioned.
The children are unaware of their father's affairs.
While the target left, you would have seen his bodyguard, Roland.
The Target's limo has heavily tinted windows.
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Draven, if you're ever going to use explosives on any 'job', be it a robbery or an assassination (Job specifics are irrelevant since this is a fundamental.) always use a decent, stable explosive.
Pipe bombs are weapons of the idiots. Unless a pipe bomb is packed with PE and is non-conventional it's almost certainly useless.
Back to the question Shetlan posed.
What's the security like at Mr. North's business office?
I'm more interested in the out of business hours.
As well as that what are the exits and entrances and how would one move around the building? Are the stairwells locked in the evening?
Also what does Mr. North's actual office building contain? Are there any alcoholic beverages and what have you?
The way I see it is...
The office building is broken into.
How depends on the levels of security.
North's office is accessed.
Again how depends on the level of security.
Ricin is then placed into his drinks. When he drinks, he dies.
Also out of interest what's the security like at his domestic residence?
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Originally Posted by _Th0r_ Draven, if you're ever going to use explosives on any 'job', be it a robbery or an assassination (Job specifics are irrelevant since this is a fundamental.) always use a decent, stable explosive.
Pipe bombs are weapons of the idiots. Unless a pipe bomb is packed with PE and is non-conventional it's almost certainly useless. | As I see it, the pipe bomb would have served more as an early warning device than anything else, but I still don't see the need for it. Quote:
Originally Posted by _Th0r_ What's the security like at Mr. North's business office?
I'm more interested in the out of business hours.
As well as that what are the exits and entrances and how would one move around the building? Are the stairwells locked in the evening?
Also what does Mr. North's actual office building contain? Are there any alcoholic beverages and what have you? | You need to outline your methods of surveillance (ie Draven used a nanny cam, I used an IP cam). That's largely the point of the game.
I'll wait for a method before answering. Quote:
Originally Posted by _Th0r_ Also out of interest what's the security like at his domestic residence? | Again, I'll await methods of surveillance before commenting on this or the possible method of death.
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Unless the cams are moving they're fairly restrictive in what they record.
Personally if I was going to use a camera I'd have it located somewhere around the North family property. Therefore I'd be able to establish leaving times and return times (Possibly irrelevant because of the means of killing.) as well as being able to see who goes in and who goes out.
As well as that I'd imagine it'd give me a fairly good idea on security arrangements at the property. I can't be certain.
Cars would also be tracked via common GPS based trackers (The type used for making sure your spouse or appropriate other isn't doing the dirty on you.) to establish whether there are any hotels or restaurants North frequents.
If you can't get access to the house or office placing a contaminated bottle of Champagne in a hotel room or 'slipping a mickey' in North's drink in a restaurant might be a possibility. Two very good reasons to ensure the car gets tracked.
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Originally Posted by shetlan The PR wing of North's company maintains his Facebook and Myspace pages.
The pages are designed to keep his public image well liked and contain no reliable details. | Cool but I was thinking of going through the kids, use a public computer to set up a myspace with a fairly cute teenage girl as my profile & then give them a sober story about my big business banker daddy always being gone at work and never spending anytime with me. That way he can, talk to me about how family is because no metter what say he just won't understand.
Never bother with trying to get intell from your target directly...
Also from observation;
When if ever does the wife leave the home?
How about Rosa? Does she live there or commute?
And when if ever does Roland go out on his own and if so does he have a replacement guy or is Roland a line in guard?
What does Roland do when Target is at work?
Security of his Appartment building?
I might go in under a false ID and ask about work if the building has security or maintainence.
Also I'll try to apply for a security or maintainence job at his place of business, to see what intell I can get amd look for some stationary from North Industries...
2 False NY State ID (-$280) with Rush Shipping TheIDShop - Fake ID - Price - Novelty ID - ID Card
1 AP Press ID to match my 1 NY State ID (-$28) Press ID Card
4 Wireless Camera Set (-$449.95) Wireless 4 Camera Color Quad w/ Remote View - SecureIP Covert Hidden Cameras With Remote Internet Viewing
1 Camera in Hallway to Target's Apartment
1 In the Garage at Apartment
1 Covering Front to Apartment (I'll observe the back personally when observing the target at home)
1 Covering Back for Target's Work (Will observe the front personally posing as any young yuppy executive when observing target at work).
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Originally Posted by Draven Cool but I was thinking of going through the kids, use a public computer to set up a myspace with a fairly cute teenage girl as my profile & then give them a sober story about my big business banker daddy always being gone at work and never spending anytime with me. That way he can, talk to me about how family is because no metter what say he just won't understand. | Okay. So you're making a profile of a cute teenage girl and trying to get intel from the target's son? Let me know if I misunderstood that plan. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Also from observation;
When if ever does the wife leave the home? | The wife is a socialite and runs her charity and humanitarian efforts out of their home, though she leaves at irregular periods to plan events. Her schedule is erratic (sp?). She is currently planning a charity dinner for breast cancer awareness - her husband is not expected to attend. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven How about Rosa? Does she live there or commute? | Rosa lives in the residence. All intell suggests that she is a long term employee, and likely the kids' primary caregiver. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven And when if ever does Roland go out on his own and if so does he have a replacement guy or is Roland a line in guard?
What does Roland do when Target is at work? | Roland lives at the residence as well - he has been employed there for almost ten years.
He accompanies Mr. North to work on a daily basis - joined by a driver.
How Roland melds with North Imports onsite security force is unclear, but the listing in the lobby notes that he has an office on North Import's floor. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Security of his Appartment building? | The family owns their entire four story building - they and their staff are the only residents.
4: Mr. North's Home Office - Mrs North's office.
3: Mr & Mrs. North's living quarters - Roland's room - two other rooms of unknown use.
2: Son and daughter's rooms - Rosa's room - game room.
1: Living room, kitchen, den, laundry and Roland's office.
They have a custom built security system (of unknown origin) - the capabilities of which are yet to be determined.
The front door has a coded access lock.
There are several visible cameras on the property as well as a video intercom system at the front door. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven I might go in under a false ID and ask about work if the building has security or maintainence. | Intell on the home's onsite security is limited - though intell suggests that previously named "Roland" designed the system and runs the family's security in general.
Home maintenance seems to be limited to Rosa herself - pending major repairs. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Also I'll try to apply for a security or maintainence job at his place of business, to see what intell I can get amd look for some stationary from North Industries... | North Imports has its own onsite security staff.
Building maintenance can be seen on the floor after hours but does not appear to have ready access to the company's offices.
All documents, disks, etc from North Imports are shredded before removal. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven | Personal Surveillance of the office building:
Most days North and Roland both order lunch from one of an assortment of restaurants - which is delivered to the lobby and collected by a North Imports employee.
Once a week, North, Roland, and several other North Imports executives walk to Uncle Jack's Steakhouse for lunch.
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Originally Posted by _Th0r_ Unless the cams are moving they're fairly restrictive in what they record. | All the IP cam needed to do was confirm a single person's presence. All Draven's cam needed to do was get a few visuals of the staff.
Clever application of mundane tools is the key. Quote:
Originally Posted by _Th0r_ Personally if I was going to use a camera I'd have it located somewhere around the North family property. Therefore I'd be able to establish leaving times and return times (Possibly irrelevant because of the means of killing.) as well as being able to see who goes in and who goes out.
As well as that I'd imagine it'd give me a fairly good idea on security arrangements at the property. I can't be certain. | It would definitely give you a better view of their security. Especially when their cameras see you placing your camera - your camera gets tossed and the house gets a security overhaul in responce to an apparent threat. Quote:
Originally Posted by _Th0r_ Cars would also be tracked via common GPS based trackers (The type used for making sure your spouse or appropriate other isn't doing the dirty on you.) to establish whether there are any hotels or restaurants North frequents. | Tracker on Target's car shows multiple stops throughout the day.
Addresses come back as:
Chen's Dry Cleaning
McDonalds
North Family Residence
Safeway Grocery
Costco
Intell suggests that his driver runs errands while he's at work.
Since you've forgotten to run a talley or link to the items you're using:
[-400]4 GPS trackers Zoombak Advanced GPS Car and Family Locator - GPS vehicle tracking device
[-60] IP camera Low Lux Advance IP Kamera 9060A-SL Internet IP Camera (Blue) IP Kamera 9060A
[-180] Netbook to watch IP cam eCOST.com-HP Mini 1010NR 1.6GHz Intel Atom Netbook w/ Webcam - FT315UAR#ABA - HP FT315UAR#ABA (Notebooks) - eCOST.com - electronics, computers, laptops, mp3 players
$74,360 remaining
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The reason I 'forgot' to add and tally my items was because the idea isn't finalised yet. I'm merely putting forward a few ideas. (Of course it's inevitable I will use some of the ideas I put forward.)
Also where is the information on the office security? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Shetlan It would definitely give you a better view of their security. Especially when their cameras see you placing your camera - your camera gets tossed and the house gets a security overhaul in responce to an apparent threat. | Not quite sure whether you're being sarcastic or not. Judging on what you've said before to me I'll guess you're being sarcastic.
Chen's Dry Cleaning McDonalds
North Family Residence Safeway Grocery
Costco
Might be worth doing a bit of surveillance on the McDonalds, Safeway and Costco to see what North buys and if it's North buying it.
If North is buying food at McDonalds for himself maybe a worker could be bribed into slipping the Ricin into his food?
If North buys a pharmaceutical product day in, day out maybe the product could be drugged.
On the subject of tallying up the cost and removing it from the total payment, surely a professional Hitman would follow the basic, but essential rule of never getting into any debts as well as the fact he would have plentiful amounts of savings from the profits of other jobs?
Just throwing a spanner into the works.
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Originally Posted by shetlan Okay. So you're making a profile of a cute teenage girl and trying to get intel from the target's son? Let me know if I misunderstood that plan. | Nope, you understood it completely but I was thinking of actually trying to get info and creating some kind of repour with the kids. Both of them to see what intell they leak. Kids like to brag and most teenage boys are obsessed with sex so go no further then dropping hints...
My Two False IDs;
Martin Clayton Andrews (Fake Driver License)
24 years old
From Chicago, IL
Parents; David Arnold & Ira Beth Andrews, 41 & 39 respectively
Siblings; David Jr (Older Brother) 26 & Mary Beth Andrews (Little Sister) 21
Spent 2 years in the Army 82 Airbourne (I can fake the DD214 with any computer & a printer)
Spent 3 years with a security firm & had left due to issues with the Companys clients. (Can't give details under a signed contract with a gag order in the "fine print")
Qualified in...
First Aid, Handgun Marksmanship (Expert), AR15 Marksmanship (Expert), Video Technology & Electrical Work, & Evasive Driving...
Angle; I'm seeking employment in the company. Come in with a Resume and nice Class A uniform from a Army Surplus Store. Say I would prefer a security job but with the economy I'd settle for a maintainence job as well. Try to get specific information about the security system from my "Job Requirements."
Brian Eugene Grant (Fake Driver's License & Matching Press Pass)
27
From Cleveland Ohio
Parents; Orphan grew up in foster homes...
Work History is sporatic with time spent as a PI's assistant & finally my current job as a Press Reporter (free lance) for the AP. Now doing a "smut piece" for World News Weekly.
Also;
Angle; If I'm caught snooping I'm a press reporter working on a story for some tabloid...
Also with no ID on me and my bumb garb, I'm gonna do some dumpster diving for intell...
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10-12-2009, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Draven Nope, you understood it completely but I was thinking of actually trying to get info and creating some kind of repour with the kids. Both of them to see what intell they leak. Kids like to brag and most teenage boys are obsessed with sex so go no further then dropping hints... | The kids don't know enough about their father's affairs to have intel on scheduleing - beyond what you have observed yourself.
The kids are also oblivious to their fathers marital indiscretions.
According to the son, there are two additional guards in the home (one assigned to him one to his sister) and changing of the guard occurs at 8pm.
Additionally, the son notes that he likes peanut butter, but they don't keep any peanut products around due to his father and sister sharing an allergy to peanuts. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Angle; I'm seeking employment in the company. Come in with a Resume and nice Class A uniform from a Army Surplus Store. Say I would prefer a security job but with the economy I'd settle for a maintainence job as well. Try to get specific information about the security system from my "Job Requirements." | The maintenance overseer offers you a janitorial position, working the 10-15th floors. That's all that's available.
Intel Gained:
Roland's office is directly connected to North's.
There are almost no cameras in the North Imports office - with the exception of two cameras viewing the elevator and stairs door.
All doors (between offices) are locked by an RF switch key card (much like a paypass).
North Imports security patrol the floor and offices both after hours and during the day (4 at any one time) - they have the cards needed to open the offices.
A member of the security staff hovers near each maintenance worker after hours. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Also with no ID on me and my bumb garb, I'm gonna do some dumpster diving for intell... | Any and all documents from North Imports are diamond shredded before being thrown out - no data can be recovered from them.
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Originally Posted by _Th0r_ The reason I 'forgot' to add and tally my items was because the idea isn't finalised yet. I'm merely putting forward a few ideas. (Of course it's inevitable I will use some of the ideas I put forward.) | The entire point of the game is to simulate intelligence gathering, set-up, and execution of the hit.
The game has only three rules Thor, if you can't follow them, don't play. Quote:
Originally Posted by _Th0r_ Also where is the information on the office security? | You've done nothing to gather intel on office security, why should you have any? Quote:
Originally Posted by _Th0r_ On the subject of tallying up the cost and removing it from the total payment, surely a professional Hitman would follow the basic, but essential rule of never getting into any debts as well as the fact he would have plentiful amounts of savings from the profits of other jobs?
Just throwing a spanner into the works. | If only that had something to do with the game.
The fact is, gathering intel costs money - supplies to carry out the job cost money - and you should dispose of everything used on the job.
Why you think this excuses your descicion to skip over the rules is beyond me. Until you start playing by the rules, I'm just going to ignore your posts.
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Easy enough, peanuts are my new weapon of choice...
Questions to be addressed, I'm gonna do this in character to show how my works...
"My Parents are always gone so I have allot of pets, birds, mice & 2 beagles. My Dad says beagles are good security because they will bark and let me know if someone is comming. Rodney my body guard says he likes cats better because cats don't make any noise so an intruder won't know he's behind the door with a gun. Ooh speaking of guns. my dad is so taking me shooting this weekned with him. He said I need to know how just in case. Does your dad ever take you shooting? I'm so nervious & it'd help if you could help me it'd be so cool. How about if you come along? I'll ask my dad...
TFL,
Brittany"
What I'm looking at is pets & guns owned by his dad. The pets are important, I'll assume he's armed regardless...
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I'll save you my in character responce - seriously, you don't want to hear it and I didn't want to write it.
New Intel Gained:
No pets, nor guard animals - wife doesn't like animals, and consdiers Roland's arsenal of cameras enough.
Roland was previously a decorated Navy Seal (stated as "a SEAL or spy or something"), North was also in the navy and both shoot on a regular basis.
Roland continues to instruct both North and North's son on close quarters combat and firearms proficiency.
North's son is unable to confirm whether or not North himself carries a gun - but notes that he is also proficient in knife fighting.
Roland maintains a significant arsenal at the residence - North's son is unable to ID the guns, but contends that Roland lets him shoot "like machine guns" and pistols.
Two rooms on the third floor are off-limits to the children, Mrs North, or Rosa. North's son assumes they contain more of
Roland and North's weapons, though he cannot confirm this.
Also, as any teenage boy, North's son finds females with guns extremely stimulating.
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Fair enough Shetlan, I'll start 'playing by the rules'.
I misunderstood you, as I figured you'd be providing the info, since you provided the victims name and all that jazz. Whatever, I don't care for arguing about petty shit.
I'm aware that most office buildings are open all day, with some being restricted in terms of access. The means of accessing the individual offices is fairly routine. It involves a card with an RFID microchip similar to the Oyster cards used for navigation in subways in Britain. scouring the numerous floors it won't be long before you find a card.
The card can then be reprogrammed so it can access North's office.
The device which can be used for achieving this task is the ACG HF Serial device sold on the site below. RFIDIOt.org - RFID IO tools
It's $360 in America and can be bought in the states or imported. In the states you can buy a whole load of other gear here RFID USA - One Source for RFID - Radio Frequency Identification - RFID Solutions.
A sum of $74,000 remains.
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Originally Posted by _Th0r_ Fair enough Shetlan, I'll start 'playing by the rules'. | It's a game Thor, if you aren't playing by the rules - in what sense are you playing? Quote:
Originally Posted by _Th0r_ I misunderstood you, as I figured you'd be providing the info, since you provided the victims name and all that jazz. Whatever, I don't care for arguing about petty shit. | The initial post is the hit request (no duh). It contains no more information than you would be given when the request was made (physical details standing in for a picture). Quote:
Originally Posted by _Th0r_ | Your sum is correct, but I'm not sure why you're buying that stuff.
In your scenario, you havn't gathered any intel what-so-ever - there's no reason you would know about the RF locks.
Additionally, you may need to re-read the previous posts with more attention to detail.
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Ok here is my plan, I'm gonna need a jar of peanut butter ($2), JB Wield ($3) a cheap "wedding type ring" (free; break open a quarter machin and steal one & a needle (also free the give to addicts to prevent needle sharing.) Break off the needle from a suringe, freeze the peanut butter and dip the needle in oil and JB wield to my "Wedding ring" & push through my gloves. At the funeral I'll shake Mr. Norths hand, poke him with ring & blame it on a static shock. I'll leave before Mr. North has an allerigic reaction to fudge browny I'll leave at his car while leaving "made with peanut oil."
I'll also have a traffic accident to prevent North from getting help, use myspace to confirm his death...
Running Total: $73,889.10
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Originally Posted by Draven Ok here is my plan, I'm gonna need a jar of peanut butter ($2), JB Wield ($3) a cheap "wedding type ring" (free; break open a quarter machin and steal one & a needle (also free the give to addicts to prevent needle sharing.) Break off the needle from a suringe, freeze the peanut butter and dip the needle in oil and JB wield to my "Wedding ring" & push through my gloves. At the funeral I'll shake Mr. Norths hand, poke him with ring & blame it on a static shock. I'll leave before Mr. North has an allerigic reaction to fudge browny I'll leave at his car while leaving "made with peanut oil."
I'll also have a traffic accident to prevent North from getting help, use myspace to confirm his death...
Running Total: $73,889.10 | You might need to revamp it with a higher dosage, I don't think a needle coated with peanut oil would be enough to send him into shock.
The plan I wrote up is pretty similar but took place at a different location.
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Originally Posted by shetlan You might need to revamp it with a higher dosage, I don't think a needle coated with peanut oil would be enough to send him into shock.
The plan I wrote up is pretty similar but took place at a different location. | Ah but according to my reasearch on peanut allergies; Peanut Butter Allergy Quote:
Exposure to the danger of peanuts occurs in three distinct manners. The most obvious is direct exposure via contact with peanuts.
This includes eating peanuts, but also such things as kissing someone who has eaten a peanut butter and jelly sandwich or even just shaking the hand of someone who has eaten food that was prepared with peanuts.
There is also the danger from cross-contact, which is unintended exposure to peanuts. This can be done as the result of exposure to peanuts during processing or the handling of a product that has come into contact with peanuts.
The third method involves the inhalation of peanuts through such products as cooking oil or even peanut dust left at the bottom of a can tossed into a garbage bin.
Accidental exposure of those who suffer from allergies can even occur at sites where food is prepared but not necessarily exposed, or when peanut butter is used for such things as toys for pets or small animal traps.
| If a kiss can induce an allergic reaction; why not a small injection/scratch from a needle. Also its not somuch that the needle is dipped in peanut oil, but that the hollow cavity of a syringe-needle is filled with peanut oil. In fact, I really shouldn't need the car accident to kill him, he should have an allergic reaction later on perhaps when stuck in traffic or at home. Poisons are unpredictable & something I prefer not to deal with but its my best chance at making it look like an accidental ingestion of peanuts. Though technically I could get a job as a waiter in the restorant they frequent and drop some peanut oil in his food, or even contaminate his regular food at home via the shopping man or sending a box of chocolate covered cherries to his office, each one injected with peanut oil. I'm simply trying to avoid getting the little girl as well...
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Originally Posted by Draven If a kiss can induce an allergic reaction; why not a small injection/scratch from a needle. Also its not somuch that the needle is dipped in peanut oil, but that the hollow cavity of a syringe-needle is filled with peanut oil. | I stand corrected. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven In fact, I really shouldn't need the car accident to kill him, he should have an allergic reaction later on perhaps when stuck in traffic or at home. | The reaction to a peanut allergy is typically violent and fast. If the dosage is high enough to cause death, it will cause anaphylactic shock within minutes. Quote:
Originally Posted by Draven Though technically I could get a job as a waiter in the restorant they frequent and drop some peanut oil in his food, or even contaminate his regular food at home via the shopping man or sending a box of chocolate covered cherries to his office, each one injected with peanut oil. I'm simply trying to avoid getting the little girl as well... | My plan:
Since he had to be killed via natural causes or suicide, I immediately have three possible plans (suicide, allergic reaction, or pharmecudical reaction).
Observe his reguar shedule for two weeks, noting and places he frequents.
Nearing the day of his next public appearance, I call his office as a caterer and ask his secretary to fax over a sheet of his "dietary restrictions" - since we lost the first one.
Having learned of his peanut allergy and his once a week lunch spot, gain employment at the restaurant (false ID) and sprinkle a bit of powdered peanuts on his food (powdered peanuts dont' look much different than garlic).
Deliver food and leave. . .
If no allergies or catastrophic pharmecudical reactions could be found, I had a suicide by hanging plan laid out.
Total cost of plan:
Powdered Peanuts - 1.00
Cost of receiving a fax - $1.50
Credentials to get restaurant job - 100
Total: $74,897.50 (minus living expenses)
Draven's turn again
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