-- Posted by suicidebmber on 6:26 pm on Mar. 25, 2002 Compared to an M-80 or M-100 how powerful is the M-500? -- Posted by jmb1125 on 7:22 pm on Mar. 25, 2002 Huh? None of the devices you mentioned are commercially available to the public. They are class B explosives. -- Posted by TNP on 12:16 am on Mar. 26, 2002 :confused: :confused: :confused: ???any better answer???:confused: :confused: :confused: -- Posted by FatAlbertsbodyguard on 1:34 am on Mar. 26, 2002 Ok...unavailable to the public.....how do we get them then? Where? Who? -- Posted by Hergor on 6:12 am on Mar. 26, 2002 maybe you could try mining suppliers but you'd need a license, that's for sure... -- Posted by brainwave on 12:11 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 just look at my post on m-100's and triple it.:ccol: -- Posted by brainwave on 12:13 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 just look at my post on m-100's and triple it.:ccol: -- Posted by OoxHighVoltagexoO on 12:27 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 WAIT..You m-100, m-80, and m-500 arent available to the public?? Since when? I have been buying m-80's and m-100's from Ohio, USA for over 5 years at Phantom Fireworks and from another small time firworks maker named Joe...Or are these different than the class B ones you are talking about?? -- Posted by OoxHighVoltagexoO on 12:30 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 Wait..What do you mean m-80, m-100, and m-500 arent available to the public??? Ive been buying m-80's and m-100's every year for 5 years from Ohio , USA from Phantom Fireworks and a private fireworks maker....Ive seen m-500's at his place but from what I understand they are weaker of the three...You said they are class B explosives..Are we thinking  of two different things??? -- Posted by jmb1125 on 7:50 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 Okay, here's the whole fucking story. The term "M-80" has nothing to do with millimeters, like everyone seems to think. It's a military designation applying to the flash composition inside. "M-80 flash composition." Just like M-16, M-79, ect. An M-80 is the military's pyrotechnic device. Now, some fireworks places claim to sell such things, but they by law they cannot. Federal law in the U.S. prohibits sale of anything containing more that 50 milligrams of flash composition within the boundries of Class C fireworks. Outside of that it is either Class B or bootleg/illegal. Mexico sells what they call M-100's and such, but obviously U.S. federal law does not apply to them. -- Posted by johnny 99 on 10:19 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 Yea, I've bought m80s in tennessee , kentucky & wyoming and they just suck! But I have electrically fired hoffman devices from the military that are the same size, And those fuckers wll take a leg off. -- Posted by jmb1125 on 10:29 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 Johnny knows....Those so-called M-80's have 50 milligrams of flash.....The same as a Black Cat firecracker. -- Posted by OoxHighVoltagexoO on 11:34 am on Mar. 27, 2002 The M-80's I get from Phantom kinda suck but are fun for what I use them for...The ones the guy makes privately that my dad knows are definately REAL m-80 and real m-100's by your description..The m-80 can blow two mail boxes to shreds pretty nice and shatters the plastic ones...The m-100's I get from him are pretty fuckin good too and strapped to four cans of spray paint and thrown by a car was fuckin amazing...I just recently ran out of them or id show you a picture of them with my web cam but wai until 4th of July and ill show you...PEACE -- Posted by johnny 99 on 12:09 pm on Mar. 27, 2002 As ,JMB said. we used to  get them from mexico when I was a boy in L.A. And they were quit powerfull, but I haven't seen any like that in years. Our favorite thing to do was extend the fuse, light a half dozen, and then run across the top of someones stacked cinderblock fence dropping them in the holes. this would quite efectivelly destroy the fence usually , if the m80s fell down far enough into the collumn of cinderblocks. Thats how powerful they were. The ones I have now we enjoy throwing in each others tool bags. But they they don't really cause any damage.   -- Posted by jmb1125 on 7:38 pm on Mar. 27, 2002 They still sell such things in Mexico, but the quality is piss-poor. The tubes are rolled out of newspaper and paste, the ends are plugged with crumbling plaster, and the fuse is string with some shitty sulfur-looking composition glued onto it. And they skimp on the amount of flash inside, because that's the most expensive part. -- Posted by unknown619 on 5:34 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 HEY WHO DO U MAKE EM -- Posted by Anto on 2:21 am on Mar. 29, 2002 http://www.unitednuclear.com sells fuses, chemicals, and more. they also have the casing and instructions for what they claim are "m-80's" -- Posted by guzzetti on 7:22 pm on April 5, 2002 OoxHighVoltageXoo u a lying POS! I live In Ohio and ive been gong to phantom for several years...they have m-92 not m-80's..psssssss -- Posted by johnny Q on 9:24 pm on April 5, 2002 well if you want m-1000's go to http://www.aaafireworks.com or go to mexico -- Posted by paladinpress on 6:48 am on April 7, 2002 becareful ordering shit like that off the net is to rob you and you would have not foot to stand on, there is a lot of printed text on the net about making them that can be trusted.     http://www.bombshock.com