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-- Posted by woody8415 on 12:00 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 In the not so distant future I am looking to start a civilization of sort. I need to know how I would go about buying an island or taking one over. I would like it to be ask risk-free as possible and as legal as possible too. Can anyone help me out??
-- Posted by Hergor on 1:01 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 just look on ebay... lol :biggrin:
-- Posted by preditor on 1:03 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 well, that is no prob to get one if your filthy rich, are you?
-- Posted by Hergor on 1:16 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 if that's the problem i suggest robbing the sheikh of dubai...
-- Posted by preditor on 1:26 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 haha, that be kinda hard to get away with, blame it on binladin if you get caught.
-- Posted by Just0nePepsi on 3:09 pm on Mar. 12, 2002
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-- Posted by bigboom on 3:22 pm on Mar. 12, 2002
soon the U.S. will sell small craters afganistan away one rain and you'll have the first nation of water instead of land house boats all around
-- Posted by Hergor on 5:02 pm on Mar. 12, 2002
ah, and a little hint:
-- Posted by preditor on 11:40 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 I think all us from bombshock should move into the same area and claim it as an independant republic, lets see anyone try and take it from us.
-- Posted by trowe on 5:04 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 that would be fun. cops would be so freaked bout comin near the place theyd be shittin there pants.
-- Posted by confuzious on 9:55 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 Hell yeah. We need a country where we can build bombs and weapons and do drugs together, so nobody would dare fuck with us.
-- Posted by preditor on 10:29 pm on Mar. 17, 2002
when I create my own country I will make you all "government oficials"
-- Posted by Sicopath on 4:19 am on Mar. 18, 2002
I've been fantasizing about raising an army to invade Vatican City, it's the smallest country in the world, the size of a small high school, fortified by mountains, no military or police and the pope lives there.
-- Posted by Mr Mushrooms on 4:26 am on Mar. 18, 2002
And all the people that live in the Vatican are unmarried nancy boys who wear long white robes and pray a lot, with careful planning and execution this plan could actually work.
-- Posted by kingpin on 4:57 am on Mar. 18, 2002 that is the best fucking plan i have ever heard are you guys serious cause i think that would be sumtihng that i would be willing to do in the not to distant future if you are serious i want in.
-- Posted by preditor on 5:31 am on Mar. 18, 2002 I call dibs on the popes funny hat
-- Posted by extreme on 5:31 am on Mar. 18, 2002 dont you think dat plan is abit to far fetched, firstly wat do u think would happen if u take the pope hostage, the whole world will be there to blow ya f''ken brains out !!!! well catholic religious followers anyway
-- Posted by kingpin on 5:39 am on Mar. 18, 2002 ha chatholics im not scared of no catholics anyway most of us are gonna die anyway and id rather die in a huge international incadent and have it be recorded in histiry than die of colon cancer or sumthing and thwe only ppl who care are the ppl i know
-- Posted by aSs BacKWuRds on 9:07 am on Mar. 18, 2002
yeaH I AGREE die for a cause die 2 be famous when u do die raise hell while ur stiil here cause were a ll gonna die some day
-- Posted by trowe on 11:11 am on Mar. 18, 2002 We could do that shit easy man. Im in if ur serious. i got no other shit goin on in my life except for my small plans of domination over a small country, which will come after we do this. We would need some better equipment than stuff we make ourselves though. cause onces those military fucks come after us, were gonna need somthin good. I could personally do with a couple walther P99 chrome slide pistols or somthin.
-- Posted by Mr Mushrooms on 1:29 pm on Mar. 18, 2002
Well I wasn't actually being serious but hey, if we could get all 5000 of Bombshock (although 90% of them are AWOL) then why not???
-- Posted by Hergor on 1:47 pm on Mar. 18, 2002
the vatican huh? interesting. never thought of that...
-- Posted by trowe on 1:53 pm on Mar. 18, 2002 i say we do it. im nuts enough to go along. i got nuthin better to do. we would need guns, transportation and sum explosives. whats everyone say?
-- Posted by thephreak on 2:39 pm on Mar. 18, 2002
In response to the person who wanted a country to do generally illegal things in - this is a genuine option. Create your own country in the middle of an ocean, and as this is not anyones territory claim it as your own. An example of this is a guy who set up his own country on an oil rig to get around banking laws.
-- Posted by confuzious on 2:49 pm on Mar. 18, 2002 Have weapons, drugs. Wanted: place to use them. I think the catholic church sucks, (2 priests are being sued for molesting kids in my town) so why the fuck not take over the vatican? We would all be legends.
-- Posted by Lord Storm on 3:06 pm on Mar. 18, 2002
Ooo, I want in...definitely
-- Posted by DeathWagon on 7:29 pm on Mar. 18, 2002 THIs IS A GREAT IDEA. We need to invade more than one place. The Vatican, a secluded town in nebraska and areas on other peoples home countries. We build up an army an make a false thing calling it a religion so it can be an official orginazation, and we get tax exemption (this is before the religion). WE have to make demands in code and have a country of complete anarchy (where everything belong to everyone and we all porsoper.) Int the end we kill all the people and all tha nilams get to live ina no longer fucked up world, count me in.
-- Posted by Strobe on 1:12 pm on Mar. 19, 2002
oohhh this sounds like fun :) count me in!!
-- Posted by Sicopath on 12:10 am on Mar. 20, 2002
I say If we held the pope hostage, no catholic fuck or government would dare get at us because we might (dramatic pause) Kill the pope.
-- Posted by balor on 3:54 pm on Mar. 20, 2002 Well if ye are going to hold the Pope hostage I know a lot of Catholics(me included) that couldnt give two fucks what ye do with him.He is head of the most corrupt church in the world and of one that has protected child abusing priests for a hell of a long time.He deserves to die for that alone.
-- Posted by DeathWagon on 4:04 pm on Mar. 20, 2002 Right on Balor
-- Posted by DeathWagon on 4:16 pm on Mar. 20, 2002 Sicopath, if the pope says sumin like that we just gag him and tickle his feet, so that the rest of the world know hes alive, and dosnt knwo hes ok with death.
-- Posted by jujubeans on 10:05 pm on Mar. 21, 2002 wut be fun is too get like me, other female bombshockers, and like 10 porns stars (unless he likes men) and make the Pope renounce his religion so he can fuck all of us but then turn him down. i dunno, i just wanna screw with his head a bit.
-- Posted by loscgk83 on 10:19 pm on Mar. 21, 2002
what the fuck i just answer this on a different thread.
-- Posted by eVipere on 10:47 pm on Mar. 21, 2002
Hell ya, create a new f*cking country!
-- Posted by kingpin on 6:35 am on Mar. 22, 2002
afganistan is full of us troops and afganies with rifles id be staying the fuck away from that place for a while.
-- Posted by trowe on 9:42 am on Mar. 22, 2002
If we could get enough guys with guns, we could take over trinidad and tobago. small islands, they also make a certain drug there, but i cant remember what it is.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 9:56 am on Mar. 22, 2002 Im for buying the island idea, i say that anyone thats interested, all of us split in money to get 1! I know they are very dear but im sure there would be a lot of ppl interested dont u? We could name it sumthin like "The Anarchist Republican" and declare war on america n shit lol. also legalise drugs and wreck anarchy on nearby main ladn n other islands then flee back home lol
-- Posted by DeathWagon on 10:02 am on Mar. 22, 2002
eVipere two things:
-- Posted by Ankou on 11:40 am on Mar. 24, 2002 Man what a fucking great idea! i have done some research on trinidad&tobago,afghanistan and the vatican city. If u guys decide to do something count me in.. Allright if we are to take over some small country (I dont think its possible to take afghanistan just yet) i suggest that we take some time to build up a huge stash of weapons for all of us to use. then we steal a couple of nukes from russia or if you prefer.. america. Or some other country. (its gonna be fucking hard if u ask me but we will have no choice) Then we would have to be able to transport these nukes somewhere safe. Then we take over trinidad&tobago. We set up our nukes there (So other countries will hestitate to attack us since it could result in a nuclear war) and fortify the whole goddamn place. Of course we would need quite a bit more people than 5000 bombshock members to do this. And if the "steal a nuke" idea doesnt sound too good to ya then try to steal or buy some uranium from somewhere and build a nuke. Of course it too will be hard but well worth it. We could also attack the vatican and fortify that place since it isnt bigger than a normal sized city. 5000 bombshockers is more than enough for taking the place over. But when we have taken that place over the only protection we have would be the nukes. Since the place is like a goddamn deathtrap small,nowhere to run if the other countries decides to attack us. Oh well i guess thats a risk we must take. It would be much safer to get all our money together and buy a private island for all of us to live on. Just think about it, we would rule that place, noone would come over to us and arrest us for "illegal possession of drugs,guns etc.." Life would be great there. Grow weed and sell it to the jugoslavian mafia for a living for example. heh man.. I guess its only a dream but dreams do come true.. eventually. Whoa i just got an idea on how to get weapons. I dunno if it'll work but here it is: Go to russia or some country where your chances of buying weapons without a license are great then you simply strip the weapon apart and put it in a small box and send it to some place of your choice (where u live etc.) by mail. I dunno if they scan mailboxes as they do with bags in airports if so it would be best to put the stripped weapon in some sorta leadcontainer and then mail it. Oh well.. Peace b with u all.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 12:33 pm on Mar. 24, 2002
how do you expext to steal a nuclear warhead exactly? You watch too many movies man.
-- Posted by Hergor on 12:34 pm on Mar. 24, 2002
Ankou, first of all: LET GO OF NUKES! :angry: there is no way for any of us at bs (even if we were 5000 ppl - the largest ammount of those has probably just forgotten us. i count around 50 active members...) to get a hold on nukes.
-- Posted by Ankou on 8:31 am on Mar. 25, 2002 Man i was KIDDING! Of course i know the us and russia guards their nukes like golden eggs. man.. I dont even watch many movies cuz they arent for real. But i was serious about the mail idea. Nukes sucks anyway. Non-nuclear rockets would be better. But actually i didnt think any of u guys was serious about taking over any place. And i doubt it would come real too. Lots of people here might say "Yea that sounds cool! lets do it!" but when all the military guys arrive with they choppers and guns they'll piss their pants. Alltough there might be some people here who has the balls needed. That kind of people doesnt fear death and i can honestly say that i do not fear death either. Bullshit you might say but if you have proof for a life after death then your whole life changes, you lose all fear. And i have had that kind of proof many times. Im not going to tell you everything that happened to me since it will be too long to post here. but lets just say that i had a "contact" with a dead relative of mine. After that i lost my fear. But if u are serious about the vatican thing you can count me in since my life is kinda messed up. i have more enemies than i can count to and i really dont have anything better to do. Peace.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 11:33 am on Mar. 25, 2002
you could always bluff about having a nuke, make a few fake pictures, hey, you ever seen the bomber boys? lol
-- Posted by Hergor on 11:34 am on Mar. 25, 2002
hey Ankou, well then, you just sounded like one of these 14 year old drunks (no offense).
-- Posted by trowe on 4:51 pm on Mar. 25, 2002 totally true. anyway... it would not be hard to take sumwhere like bermuda, or the bahamas, or sum tinyass place like that. that would be easier than hell. but our problem would be gettin guns and shit. i want guns, but i cant find guns.
-- Posted by golkar on 8:32 pm on Mar. 25, 2002 Hmmm. We'd need to coordinate. 5,000 people show up for a war and no one can use the same ammo. Line up by caliber! .38 and .357 on the left, 7.62x54 NATO on the right and by Gawd I'd better not see an Mosin-Nagant in that group!
-- Posted by trowe on 9:02 pm on Mar. 25, 2002 thatd be funny. but seriously, we should pick on very small islands, they are easier to take over, and easier to claim as our own.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 9:31 pm on Mar. 25, 2002
I've some up with an anarchist organization,
-- Posted by golkar on 10:21 pm on Mar. 25, 2002
The anarchists fielded an army of 100,000 in the Spanish Civil War. I think George Orwell described their organization. Ah, here's an excerpt: "Everyone from general to private drew the same pay, ate the same food, wore the same clothes, and mingles on terms of complete equality. If you wanted to slap the general commanding the division on the back and ask him for a cigarette, you could do so, and no one thought it curious."
-- Posted by Ankou on 4:04 am on Mar. 26, 2002 Yeah Trowe youre right the smaller islands are much easier to take. But if we really are going to do something then we will have to get enough people and a good plan. Not to mention guns. i would suggest that we scrape together a group of people who would fly to some island and when they are there they could check things out like how big a police or military force the island has. (Altough it cannot be that big) Anyone know of a good island to take? It would be harder to get people than guns though since we need reliable people who doesnt think its all a game and then get a nervous breakdown when things get hot.
-- Posted by kingpin on 5:29 am on Mar. 26, 2002
ok im not sure how many of you are serious about this but if you are there are sum things you should realise
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 8:56 am on Mar. 26, 2002 if u r serous, shouldnt we use sumthin a little more secure to discuss over, pigs could listen to this no problem, especially since sum of u idiots want to kill the pope (kill the queen instead, she needs to die!!!) :cool:
-- Posted by felony on 9:19 am on Mar. 26, 2002
The popes a VERY old man and he would probaly have heart attack during all the kidnapping and shit, then you would be screwed, be funny though :)
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 10:09 am on Mar. 26, 2002 First I think that you have a sound Idea I think what you would need to do first is pick the location. I would think that the purchase or an island would be the best choice as then legally its yours and you would not have anyone trying to take it back. The next thing I would do is get a decent amount of people to come to the island and assemble the basic items needed to live. Houses, running water, some type of hospital, school, that type of thing. Second I would then petition the UN for a charter get some type of aid and then set what ever laws and policies that you see fit. If you are serious about this I would assist any way that I could.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 10:47 am on Mar. 26, 2002
Well..
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 12:04 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 i was playin metal gear solid 2 today, and found out that the terrorists r plannin to claim the island of manhatten as a republic call "sons of liberty" just thought this was kinda cool :cool:
-- Posted by Ankou on 12:06 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 I think the "buy an island" idea is the best one. the only problem is money. I would help but im not as rich as Bill gates.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 5:29 pm on Mar. 26, 2002
lets create a charity called "give money to the in$ane anarchist$ $o they can buy their own republic and weapon$ $o they can de$troy u$ all" maybe we should shorten that down a bit :cool:
-- Posted by trowe on 5:48 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 Islands can cost millions of dollars, while taking one over would be much cheaper. Being cheaper, but harder...there is of course flaws. Like sumone said, cant remember who, they would send in an army to help that country... maybe true, but it would be hard for them to do that. governments get overthrown all the time, and armies dont get sent in. Im just saying that, unless we can get about 1-5 million dollars, i recomend hostile takeover...
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 5:50 pm on Mar. 26, 2002
when i buy my own island after i get rich scammin the public, i will announce it a republic and u can all enter the island, with my own laws n shit, itll b cool, 1st law, no queers, 2nd law, hoe's on every corner ...etc
-- Posted by golkar on 6:04 pm on Mar. 26, 2002
The idea of buying an island might have merit... Assume that 5,000 people are serious about making this happen. Have them prove how serious they are by putting, ummmmm, say, $100US in a legal trust. That would be $500,000 instantly without anyone having to go to jail. Rinse, repeat quarterly for a year. Just checked a couple of real estate sites on the web and there was an 8000 hectare island in Panama for $8,000,000. Smaller islands available for less. Problem is that if it's large enough to support an independent nation, it already has one. Otherwise, a bigger nation has control. But there is an interesting quasi-exception to the rule... www.sealandgov.com
-- Posted by trowe on 6:32 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 like i said, islands are expensive. It would be a hard thing to do, to take one over, but to raise over 5 million dollars to buy one... too much time and money.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 8:36 pm on Mar. 26, 2002
Take one by force.
-- Posted by kingpin on 2:17 am on Mar. 27, 2002
there oviouslly isnt that many people who are interested in this im not sure how many ppl have been posting on this thread but it sure isnt the whole of bombshock.
-- Posted by Sicopath on 4:05 am on Mar. 27, 2002
About the elctricity, my friend told me recently about Sri-Lankans on Bicycles generating power ;).....
-- Posted by Ankou on 6:00 am on Mar. 27, 2002 We could rob a bank and stay low a while afterwards. Hmm.. But i doubt its a good idea. At first a bank is robbed and six months afterwards a gang of anarchists shows up with 20 millions and wants to buy an island. heh they wouldnt be suspicious at all.. But seriously guys, to buy an island is much better than to overthrow some crazy place like cuba. i mean we dont have any people and we dont have many guns. If we had an island of our own we could overthrow another island much easier. But since we got no dough... well i guess we would have to commit some crimes to get some.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 9:27 am on Mar. 27, 2002 First I don't think that getting the money together would be the hard part honestly 20 million is not that large of an amount if a group is commited to a goal.(example: I have a cousin that is not that bright and kinda lazy that blows 12,000 a month that he gets from sellin drugs. I have never sold drugs don't mind those that do and probably wouln't sell them on a small scale if I was given the opportunity ) I would be mor concerned with getting a un charter to be seen as a seperate country then with anything else. After all with out that charter all a group would be is a bunch of us citizens that are commiting some type of crime on an island. Again if there is a core group that is seriously interested in this I would be willing to sit down and work everything out.
-- Posted by Ankou on 10:52 am on Mar. 27, 2002 i am seriously interested in this. I will help in any way possible.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 11:47 am on Mar. 27, 2002
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 11:54 am on Mar. 27, 2002 Exactly how many people are seriously interestd in this? I think there are more pluses then minuses in this and with the way that the world is going we should beable to make this not only a place to reside but a good revenue stream. Once the core group is extablished we can work on everything else.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 12:08 pm on Mar. 27, 2002
I have an attack team. It's 8 men. Highly trained.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 12:28 pm on Mar. 27, 2002 I too have military back round as well as computers I am not sure where age comes in as I seen my first combact when I was 18. I would be more conserend with experience but again that is just me. Again I think that all serious people should get together some time soon and develope a game plan on how to accomplish this task. Also that will give every one an opportunity to get some type of measure of everyone else. We would also have a chance to determine exaclty what the island would be used for. I for one am not looking for just a place to go to have fun with sex drugs and what ever else. I would be more interested in extablishing some type of revenue stream from the island with the end result that independace would be soon following. With the way the world is going and the whole aspect of terrorism there is a huge opportunity to provide protection services to select groups. Again this is just my opinion who ever is seriously interested contact me either by email or ICQ. I would also like to invite the creator of this message to contact me so that we might discuss the plans, options and theories that he/she has discovered and/or invented.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 3:38 pm on Mar. 27, 2002
I saw combat first at 11.
-- Posted by trowe on 6:24 pm on Mar. 27, 2002
I am my own team. I may not have guns of my own, but i do use my dads... These are my skills:
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 6:30 pm on Mar. 27, 2002 You have the skills of an engineer
-- Posted by eVipere on 7:09 pm on Mar. 27, 2002
I have the skills of electronics, computers, and anything mechanical, as well as a bit of basic explosives (who doesn't???) Although I would be a feable asset when in comparason to some of ya'll .. I could try!
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 7:45 pm on Mar. 27, 2002
We can get our funds easily.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 8:11 pm on Mar. 27, 2002
Roland
-- Posted by kingpin on 8:24 am on Mar. 28, 2002
jesus christ i think im in over my head but thats never stopped me before if you all arent lying then shit you all seem to have experiance with all kinds of shit, im only young (16) and i have only had experiance with small time things like petty crime but i still want in.
-- Posted by kingpin on 8:29 am on Mar. 28, 2002 p.p.s i am good with computers and a pretty good thinker, also i am pretty good with bombs but like eVipere said so are most of us on the site.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 1:05 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
Robbery, and selling stolen goods.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 1:22 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
Roland
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 1:46 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
Well,
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 1:56 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 The Vatican actually is protected by the sweedish army and honestly they are the best trained in the world. So I doubt very seriously that we would be able to do aything of that nature also every country in the world that is non muslim would come to the defence. Now if we are just discussing this for discussion sake then I do have some suggestions that would work, However I am looking for something more. You see the problem with taking something over is making sure you have the ability to keep is conquered. So the ideal situation would be to purchase an island and build up from there. Again just my opinion.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 2:03 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
Cuba.
-- Posted by trowe on 2:05 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 Thats true, people think about a hostile takeover, and think it would be fun, and im one of those people. But as for keeping a standing army ready, that would take some work. As for purchasing an island it is costly. 10 million for a good one. And yes I know that it is only making a dollar, than doing it again 10 million times. but that is alot, and time consuming. I think it would be longer than 2-4 years, I have only seen about 6 serious people post on this topic in the past week. six people to bring up 6-10 million dollars would take alot of effort.
-- Posted by trowe on 2:07 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 and as for cuba, they have an army. may be small but they still have it, and we do not have adequit people or weapons.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 2:20 pm on Mar. 28, 2002
Hm...
-- Posted by trowe on 2:39 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 Those are what I say we take if we insist on hostile takeover... hell, 8 or 9 people could take one of those really small ones.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 2:43 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 Surprize is our deadliest weapon. So lets not alert anyone to our plans.
-- Posted by confuzious on 11:48 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 There are lots of little islands that nobody ever hears about, and that could easily be taken over. I have experience with guns, computers, and drugs. But we would really need money. If we could find some place with enemies that would fund us....
-- Posted by kingpin on 11:58 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 cool well if roland will be 18 or so when we do this then i'll be old enough to do what i like and i will also be able to build up a fair amount of money by that time also i dont think we have many people interested in being involved ( 4 ppl at last count) i think we should start a new thread in the community discussion to recruit people to help us out because were gonna need a lot of people to pull something like this off/
-- Posted by onecrazyfool on 12:37 am on Mar. 29, 2002
Ok, you guys are all high or sumthin, cuz there's no way this would work. They'd probably just find some way around the Pope to get you. Take over Monaco if you're gonna go suicide for a country. It's slightly bigger, and has sum cool crap in it I think. Like a horse race and an aquarium. I don't know about their military status though...
-- Posted by onecrazyfool on 12:50 am on Mar. 29, 2002
-- Posted by Mastermind on 12:57 am on Mar. 29, 2002
Ok, instead of pulling one big operation, everyone alone or in small groups robs a bank near thm. That way it is spread out all over. We could get money to buy an island real fast. Half of the people could move to the island to prepare for the upcoming invasion. The other half would stay where they are and send stuff that they sell, like chemicals, guns, computers and stuff to the island. On the island we could set up a bank, like a swiss bank. Then every job someone pulls, the moeny will go to the bank and be hidden from pigs. When we get enough supplies by making them or stealing them, we get together on the island and train. Back to getting the money, when we get it we could lander it and involve some small time mafia, then get them into our new countries. We wouldn't want to get acknoweledged by the UN 'cause then when we attack they attack as a group defending against a country. Otherwise they would have to fight us like we were terrorists that own an island. Hmmm, be treated like an army,
-- Posted by kingpin on 1:28 am on Mar. 29, 2002
id rather be refered to as an army than a terrorist organisation we would sound like we are not just some right wing group of crazy's but an apossible force.
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 2:15 am on Mar. 29, 2002
i know a bank in my town that gets sixty thousand every first thursday my friend robbed them he got caught cause his brother ratted on him he did get to spend 2 gs of the money and buy a 99 explore
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 2:18 am on Mar. 29, 2002
im with this first we take over a prison maximum security of course over . we then go to a airport pack a 747 or two and go to the vatican personally i think it should be cuba . but anyway if it is the vatican we could steal the pope mobile add a canon there is 1 tank
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 2:20 am on Mar. 29, 2002
the bank i mentioned before is a trailer bank like a office at a construction site if anyone has a big rig we could steal the whole fuckin thing
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 2:23 am on Mar. 29, 2002
this just for educational purposes blah blah blah disclaimer
-- Posted by Sicopath on 3:43 am on Mar. 29, 2002
you quadruple posted you lamer!
-- Posted by golkar on 7:28 am on Mar. 29, 2002
I've had to think this through a little... If we fight for an island, we need to make damn sure its got the basics on it. Land that will support farming and fresh water. There are TONS of islands that no one lives one because there isn't any fresh water.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 10:23 am on Mar. 29, 2002
Okay alot of people are interested...
-- Posted by EvRLsTNgGoDStpR on 10:49 am on Mar. 29, 2002
Count me in, i'm trained in wheapon's and shit my crew will allso help we could get some money and we'll donate all of our wheapons, Shit about time somebody's got a good idea, *EDIT* Found a good island for 48,000! http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/sales_islands/sites/3a_long.html
-- Posted by trowe on 11:32 am on Mar. 29, 2002
dude... first, that is way to small of an island. we need one at least 400 acres, at the minimum... second, if you can get weapons, help supply those of us who cant get them.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 11:48 am on Mar. 29, 2002
hey roland, forget about cuba, Fidel Castro's Army Of 100 Guerillas beat the original cuban army of 10 000 (not sure if figures r correct) and if uve forgotten, camp x-ray is there too, the american military prison where they r holding afghans, cuba is suicide, go for sum lame ass island in the pacifics, and count me in, and instead of taking an island over, raise money whateva way u can and buy an island, it sounds lame but is the best way to go
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 12:06 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Again the best way to accomplish this is to purchase not conquer. Figure and island is going to be around 10to 15 mill for what we would need. Now to develope it build buildings and other neccessary things prob will be about another 10 to 15 mil including supplies and equipment Now lets say we put this on a 5 year plan that would mean that we could need to save about 6 to 6.2 mill a year really we would have to produce about 10 mill a year we will need money to live on also to reseach new projects as well as start and maintain what ever we already had going. I know in the area where I live that there are at least 20 different things that could be done to produce 6 to 7 mill a year. Again what we need to do is get a core group together leave from this public forum and discuss in private what exactly this group is looking to accomplish. So far all we are doing is talking.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 12:32 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Okay.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 12:47 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
First when you purchase and Island it is just a matter of filling out the proper paper wok to file for an UN Charter. That charter would give you the ability to be your own sovergn nation. Most of the Islands that we would be looking at and the areas I don't think there would be any problems with what we do or don't do on the Island. I have done some research and to get the UN charter is not that hard. Now reguarding being armed. I understand what you mean however what I was refering to was not being armed on ths Island but here in the states. The Devils greateat lie and accomplishment was making people think he did not exist. That is what we need to do make people think that we are not doing what we are doing and what ever projects we have going on or are plannin to an outside group (lawenforcement) is that each project is totally unrelated to each other and is something that is random. That way we would not bring undue attention to the ultimate goal. Again how we set this up and with who is someting better left to the extremely serious and in private. Again just my opinion.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 12:54 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Xpl0sive needs to set up a voting thingy ma bob so ppl can tell us if they r in or out, im definately in though
-- Posted by DeathWagon on 1:38 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I think that chances are with bombshock people in certain cities and areas should group together and prepare weapons and supplies and start pooling money so when the combined efforts start we have shit to work with.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 1:53 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I agree with death 100% and that is what I have been saying since I got into this conversation. However, before any resources are given i think we all need to make sure who we are and what we say we are. There is nothing worse then to invest in a unprofitable venture.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 2:21 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
can we get a new forum created just for this, coz theres too much too plan on just 1 thread, i think roland should moderate it
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 2:33 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I think that something like this should be done via ICQ or on an IRC channel or some other type of forum that can be locked an only the people involved should have access. There could be a public forum also but I would not use it for anything really other then what we are doing now.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 2:42 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
yeah but this thread is massive, 4 pages so far and surely more to come, a new forum for this would b good so we can discuss other ideas too without it being all in 1 thread, i know this doesnt make sense the way i put it but think about it
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 3:30 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I need everyone who is planning to be in this to post IN FAVOR of a political forum.
-- Posted by synapse on 3:37 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Dudes... This is just a fuckin GREAT idea and definetely count me in. But I realy think the big armies like Russia and US and UK and all these Uroupian united countries won't let us to even move a bit.. we gonna get smashed in a sec.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 3:38 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
good idea, i do think that murder should b illegal in our island n shit like that, we can murder ppl from near by islands lol, i still say buy an island, get ppl to raise money by pullin bank jobs, drug dealing, wateva, until we get the island, p.s. what should we call it? not the anarchists republic, that sounds lame, sumthin lcool, i cant think of nething just now
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 3:41 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Citizen murder..illegal
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 3:44 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Those spratly islands by vietnam are up for sale?!
-- Posted by trowe on 3:47 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
we may need a government, but alot of people arent seeing the really big picture. a hostile takeover of any island with inhabitance on it, will produce suspicion from governments. And we dont want suspicion. to keep this under raps, i think we will need to do 1 of 2 things.
-- Posted by trowe on 3:51 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
DONT GET AN ISLAND BY VIETNAM!!!
-- Posted by synapse on 3:53 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Yes, as far as I know if someone is intrested and got cash they would sell Spratly Islands
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 3:55 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I looked at trowes websites and there are ALOT of carribean islands that have lots of land and shit. (good for marijuana too! :biggrin: ). Those look like the best. They're all under a million.
-- Posted by trowe on 3:57 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
there some pretty good islands for pretty cheap. thats why i think buying may be nessissary, because, it may be easier. one bank job could buy a good sized island...
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 4:02 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Welll....
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 4:16 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
im with roland
-- Posted by synapse on 4:21 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I'm with Roland too
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 4:29 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
this is very pricy, but is fuckin huge!!! -> http://www.privateislandsonline.com/skyropoulaeugr.htm <- 4000 acres for $4 million, but thats a good deal for that area seriously
-- Posted by synapse on 4:37 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
If we get only 2000 people of BombShock to put 250$ then we can buy that shit and also with the 50$ each we can equippe the place...
-- Posted by EVILEYE on 4:44 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
start youre own civilisation eh ?well u could buy an island off the coast of scotland for £300,000 or make one out of millions of plastic bottles ! no really someone has done that !and its off the coast of cuba (saw it on tv so its true!)
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 4:44 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
hey, lets start picking who will b in the government, may i nominate myself for a position?
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 4:49 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
evil eye, u scottish?, i am
-- Posted by synapse on 4:52 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
"chroniccrescent " that's was pretty kool and funny man
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 4:52 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Ok
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 5:07 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
ill b "general secretary of bullshitting the press" lol, im gonna get icq right now
-- Posted by synapse on 5:09 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
"Analyticworm" I agree..
-- Posted by synapse on 5:14 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
bytheway I think ICQ is not a good idea cuz it can be hacked EASILY.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 5:15 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Ok who ever is interested please email me and include your ICQ number. When I get all of that information I will then send an email to everyone involved with the names and ICQ numbers. Figure on givieing eveyone until monday to do this. From there we can set up a time and date to meet and a ICQ chat room can be created and we can introduce our selves and give a bit of our back round as well as aprox location. I would recommend that every one take a hard look at themselves before making this decision as once we go forward there is no turning back.
-- Posted by synapse on 5:27 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
there are alot of people do NOT have a certain computer( they may use public computers) so for those people it's impossible to get involved cuz ICQ saves the buddy list on the computer but Yahoo messenger saves the list on server and everytime the user signs in the list gets downloaded automatically.
-- Posted by synapse on 5:30 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
YES....I have a suggestion:
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 5:35 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I do agree about the yahoo messenger idea. As for a name I care not so BsM2002 is fine with me
-- Posted by synapse on 5:38 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
>> >>>>>>>> BsM2002 <<<<<<<<<<
-- Posted by Mastermind on 5:45 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Count me in, im probably too young, but ill help any ways
-- Posted by synapse on 5:54 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
as I said before in order to ensure that u r IN , just send an email to analyticworm@hotmail.com or to s_y_n_a_p_s_e_0_0_0@yahoo.com and make sure u write ur BombShock ID and Yahoomessenger ID .
-- Posted by trowe on 6:04 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Synapse, how old are you. I have nothing against you, and you seem like a nice person, but you jumped in there pretty quick, and all of a sudden you are calling yourself a contact person. I think we should only contact analyticworm about this. synapse, you seem to know abit, and im not on ur ass or anything, but i think its best if we stick to one contact.
-- Posted by synapse on 6:07 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
SURE ,, that's NO PROBLEM
-- Posted by Mastermind on 6:08 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I agree with trowe, synapse is cool, but we have no idea whose fucking reading this
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 6:10 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Yes one contact is good.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 6:40 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
synapse, no offence, but wo made u boss? u acting in control and jumping in too fast, my email is markrice16@hotmail.com and my yahoo is chroniccrescent but i havent used it for ages, im gonna get an icq soon so ill tell u it l8r. p.s. yahoo now do a credit card verification so its fuckin impossible to get a new account without havin a credit card, so yahoo may not b a good idea
-- Posted by synapse on 6:49 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
hey chroniccrescent , listen dude..,,
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 6:55 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
synopse, dont take it personnally, ur cool n all but ur kinda taking charge, i was just sayin, but im with u on the idea but there should b only 1 guy in charge of ppl whos interested, whoeva wants to do it, maybe we should vote or just use worm, doesnt matter to me, i dont really care, as long as it gets done i guess
-- Posted by synapse on 7:00 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
All cool ,
-- Posted by bmw310 on 7:04 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I'm there too in the bombshack island thing
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 7:07 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
bombshack? hahaha, thats what we would probably b livin in on the island, hey, ever seen the beach? we could base it on that!
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 7:09 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
I got my Yahoo messanger account!
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 7:12 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
hey, nebdy here interested in this got msn messenger? if so add me, markrice16@hotmail.com to discuss ne stuff
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 8:01 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Get Yahoo messanger.
-- Posted by largeidaccam on 9:42 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
i disagree with yahoo messangermsnis much more user friendly , when this thing gets up and running put me in charge of training people in hand-to-hand combat because im a first degree balck belt in the Go Ju system of Karate , ive also been out recruiting and i have about 9 people who are willing to go through with this
-- Posted by synapse on 10:04 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
MSN messenger ain't got feature to store offline messages.
-- Posted by kingpin on 10:23 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
ive got msn and yahoo and i think there both the same pretty much for msn its muppet_man_swift@hotmail.com
-- Posted by synapse on 10:41 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
check this out:
-- Posted by kingpin on 10:53 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Situated 17 nautical miles (31.5 km) north of the Bay of Islands area of New Zealand' North Island, this very beautiful private island is located in great marlin fishing waters. The island is nicely elevated, and provides sheltered moorage for boats. Fresh water is available on the island, and there are several spectacular building sites. In addition to the marlin fishing opportunities, the waters around the island are ideal for surfing. This is one of the few privately-owned islands in the area, so privacy is ensured.
-- Posted by Mastermind on 10:57 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
10 acres? That aint much
-- Posted by Mastermind on 11:10 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
Hey, i like the one suggested thats 4 mill, and has 4000 acres
-- Posted by kingpin on 11:53 pm on Mar. 29, 2002
i think we should put sum money aside for generators because most of these islands wont have electricity/.
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 1:53 am on Mar. 30, 2002
Greetings,
-- Posted by synapse on 2:03 am on Mar. 30, 2002
Welcomoooo"DrunkCentaur " to BsM2002
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 2:23 am on Mar. 30, 2002
-fuck-
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 6:33 am on Mar. 30, 2002
i know theres not much point in choosing an island right now but i suggest this island that mastermind suggested
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 7:42 am on Mar. 30, 2002
GOD DAMNIT!
-- Posted by golkar on 9:59 am on Mar. 30, 2002
Sounds like brass tacks time. I'm completely in favor of starting a new forum for this thread 'cuz we need to discuss all sorts of stuff. Its good to see people stepping up to the plate and saying they're interested in taking care of different issues.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 10:30 am on Mar. 30, 2002
Once every one that is interested has contacted me (hopefully by monday night) with their yahoo ID then we can set up a date and time to have our first meeting. I think that the first meeting should be to discuss who we are and what experience we have and what projects we are currently involved in and what projects we have planned. I would also like to stress that there is no leader however we do need to have some type of order established as total chaos will never last. We are going to need to creat commities to consider what options we have and the cost in buildings, power, farming, just to name a few so that when the time comes to make a decision we have all of the information needed to make one clear and stable. I would not at this point go out and attempt to get friends/bussiness associated involved in this, as we are not sure that this is going to take off. We are in the very beginning stages of this. Again contact me by monday 12am and lets get this started. Another thing that will have to be decided how are we going to add new members?
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 11:49 am on Mar. 30, 2002
Hey Analyticworm..
-- Posted by EvRLsTNgGoDStpR on 12:14 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
it has bugun, hell fuckin yeah, yeah guys don't post your S/N's and shit do it by email, guys give me a emial with some of the names.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 12:32 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
Hey send me Your yahoo ID's so I can talk to you people.
-- Posted by Mastermind on 12:50 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
I agree, we definitely need to save up for a generator. We will probably need to be able to add plumbing too, since we will build more. And what about communications? TV? Cant go without tv, though we could get a few of those satellite tvs and make it give free tv, same with phone and internet
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 12:57 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
Again all of these thing we can discuss after we know who is and is not going to be involved. I have a few emails from people now just remember send them all to me. What I will do then is compile all of the names and ID's and send one email to every one with all of the onformation.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 1:13 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
whats information might that be? ur planning this too fast
-- Posted by trowe on 7:20 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
Its not planning to fast, its planning ahead. these are just sketch ideas, nothing is final yet until we set up a meeting time on YM. That is when we will start the actual planning. Just send your YM names to analyticworm, so he can set it up. he is not the boss, but he is the first one to try and establish order so we may actually be able to do this. So dont start critisizing anyone, and dont flame anyone on this board, cause in the future, we may all have to live together.
-- Posted by kingpin on 7:30 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
whats your email analyticworm?
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 7:35 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
look at his profile
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 8:12 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
i wasnt flaming, i just think were jumping into this too fast, discuss how we get the money and how much would u like to raise?
-- Posted by kingpin on 8:15 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
thats what were gonna do on yahoo messesnger
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 8:18 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
i cant get messenger took work....sumthing about connectin to AOL an clickin next then nothin happens. Any ideas?
-- Posted by kingpin on 8:33 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
maybe your behind a firewall, thats why icq doesnt work for me but this isnt icq so it might not be, but then again it just might be
-- Posted by Scralatchtica on 8:37 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
Hey, Im new to this and am kinda interested in this island thing. Ive looked over all the posts and noticed that you havent mentioned anything about food. Where would that come from???
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 9:09 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
FairyNuff is gonna be a cook I think.
-- Posted by 7th Street on 10:43 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
A land of registered Bombshockers... Great idea.
-- Posted by 7th Street on 11:05 pm on Mar. 30, 2002
Roland, lemme just touch and go on your last post. Whether you're serious about this or not, I'm bored as fuck, so here goes.
-- Posted by kingpin on 12:20 am on Mar. 31, 2002
but how are we gonna determine who gets what position maybe we should vote, and hope that there is no one who just wants to be the boss so they can tell people what to do,
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 12:58 am on Mar. 31, 2002
i myself would like to b in charge of diplomatics. i think we should stick to ourselfs for the beggining, no war even agains lame ass countries, not until we have got sum defence (i mean serious anti nuclear shit here ppl) coz as roland said, keep it at around 100 ppl (depends on island, probably %05 of maximum population should b there) and play it cool. We can all smoke dope there, we can blow up whales n fish for fun, but not other countries
-- Posted by kingpin on 1:17 am on Mar. 31, 2002
i agree with chronic about staying low and just settling in before attacking anyone.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 1:23 am on Mar. 31, 2002
doesnt matter if it looks suspicious, as long as it is legit, we make our own rules so we can smoke dope n shit if we want (but there is still international treaties, but im sure no1 would break them)
-- Posted by synapse on 3:25 am on Mar. 31, 2002
I think we would need to get some of lamers to take care of shitty jobs cuz it's essential for every nation to have some crappy jobs like transportation guy(boat shit), mail delivary, construction workers .....
-- Posted by synapse on 3:31 am on Mar. 31, 2002
I think we gotta have some budget for satellite shit either cuz with that we can have cell-Phones n Internet too.
-- Posted by Mr Mushrooms on 6:08 am on Mar. 31, 2002
Fuckin hell I've just read all this!!!
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 7:59 am on Mar. 31, 2002
hey mushrooms, u want in? also, i would be happy to partake in costruction n such, we do not need "lamers" to do this, we can help each other out
-- Posted by cheryl on 8:04 am on Mar. 31, 2002
U wanna buy an island huh....well my brother (who happens 2 b qube) found an internet site which sells private islands...... if u is a rich b*stard mind.
-- Posted by Mr Mushrooms on 9:53 am on Mar. 31, 2002
As far as execution and action goes... I'm sceptical about how far this is gonna actually get off the ground but I'm more than happy to help with the Admin side, give me everyones email addresses who's in on the project and keep me reguarly updated and I can make sure this is run effeciently, let me know if you want me on this... I don't want a senior role but you'll need someone to do the admin on this project and I can do it standing on my head. Whoevers in charge, email me (briddsy@yahoo.co.uk) and let me know if you want my help.
-- Posted by trowe on 1:24 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
First, you people have to realise that this operation may take years, also, what you have planned will take more years to get going. Underground bunkers, anti-nuclear stuff, it would all take too much time. If you dont want to be classed as a terrorist organization, you must act like a country. and a country is concerned about war its first year. its concerned about economics, about money and how its going to atract people. If we all of a sudden started buying thousands of weapons, along with building underground bunkers, than we might as well kill ourselves, because we wont last long. drugs are almost the last think you want growing on an island the size of what we are talking. if any UN officials came to the island to check our "countries" movements, and how well we are doing, and they see pot growing, and guys tripping all over the place on acid, they might raise suspicion. Than they hear us talking about anti-nuclear possibilties, they will consider us a terrorist organisation.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 1:27 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Alrighty,
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 1:30 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Commander
-- Posted by 7th Street on 1:37 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
1. Set up a government.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 1:52 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Yes.. lets no be too cheeky to our fellow countries. That have power we don't have right now.
-- Posted by trowe on 1:52 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
The first thing we should be concerned about is buying the island, everything else should be done on the island. choosing a government should be done on the island, not over the net. thats childish. we have to concentrate on buying the island, that is our first priority. No one is just going to give us one, that is why we have to agree on one, and no one can even do that. everyone is trying to find a better island all the time.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 1:54 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Lets not be hasty about this either. I still need to grow up! We CANNOT send kids and people under 18 over there. I have 4 years to wait. Plus funding and training and knowledge learning should fill that time gap!!!
-- Posted by trowe on 2:08 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
4 years is a long time. you only have to wait until your 16 to move from where you live. Im saying is we need to find the right island. That is the first and only thing we should be talking about right now. Once we find our island, that is when we will need time to make money. robbing banks, homes, anything and everything to make money. I am buying my own small island soon. It is 12 acres, and is located in the carribean. I will invite people out ther when I have it. its a pretty penny, but i am almost there..:)
-- Posted by Ankou on 3:17 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Allright this thread has grown quite a bit! i see that there are plenty of people who is interested. I havent been online for some time so i havent had the time to read all of this. I saw that you posted what your skills are though, and now i will post mine. Im a pretty good marksman, i can handle about any pistol and rifle. And im good at sneaking and hiding myself, i also have a little training in martial arts. (escrima and karate) i have some basic knowledge of explosives too. Hm.. as i havent been online for quite a while could anyone tell me what the plan is? Or do you have a plan yet?
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 3:52 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Hm,
-- Posted by golkar on 3:55 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Trowe, maybe you could explain the process that you go through to buy an island.
-- Posted by Creeper on 3:55 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
And the "Longest topic ever" award goes too......
-- Posted by Ankou on 4:00 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
hmm... if you are going to join in a discussion in a yahoo chatroom on thursday, which room will you go to? users or public and what will the rooms name be?
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 4:07 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Damnit man! :angry:
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 4:33 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
It's my opinion that although we shouldn't be shrugging off the idea of an army, choosing a leader based on what someone says there so called qualifications are wouldn't be the smartest idea.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 5:25 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Okay.. I know you wheren't trying to slam me but here I took it as a slam so here I go:
-- Posted by largeidaccam on 5:43 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
just a question ,whos going to be in charge of the money because if i "invest" in this i dont want some shiffty cunt to do a runner on me, think about it....where on an Anarchist site here ofcourse there going to be shiffty people around....
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 5:44 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
I didn't say one thing that you should take as dissing you, I was only stating that we can't take anyones word for what they are as qualifications at face value, especially when it includes placing ones life in their hands,
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 6:04 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Yeah I see where your comin from.
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 6:15 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
No problems there... time is something that we're definately not in short supply of, *grins* hopefully theres no hard feelings, having trouble getting into yahoo at the moment... gonna send you another screen name via e-mail, *nods*
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 7:22 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Ok I have read the post and first I would like to seggest that we stop slamin other people, and that we look at this opportunity for what it is. At this point its nothing there is no reason to look at islands or anything like that at this point. What we need to do is look at each other decide if this is something we want to be part of. We also need to discuss how we are going to set things up. What projects are we going to start and keep going. First what we need to do is all sit down and discuss this. Again anyone who is serious send me an email by mon night and i will compile all information and send everyone an email with the yahoo ID's and we can set up a time and date for us to talk.
-- Posted by kingpin on 7:30 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
i think that what we should do is just collect as much money for say 3-4 years and then see what islands are for sale, cause if we choose one now and wait 4 years to buy it it might be gone so we should wait until weve got some money together before we decide what island to buy, in regards to the whole goverment position thing if possible i'd like to be the minister of foriegn affairs, i think id be good for this position. also who should i give my yahoo id to???
-- Posted by trowe on 7:53 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
give your yahoo id to analyitiworm. just click on his name or whatever and you will find his email.
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 9:30 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
skills that i have first aid cpr construction ac heating hunting fishing basicly gathering so count me in
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 9:35 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Good smoothcriminal,
-- Posted by synapse on 9:51 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
One other thing that I think we gotta consider is the enemies.See ,since this whole discussion is public ,all the fuckin enemies can see what we are plannin ... so the moment we act on the plan , we'll face with those modakaffas. so it's not a bad idea to have some methods against them.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 10:01 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
I seriously doubt that we will have enimies from the start.
-- Posted by bmw310 on 1:08 am on April 1, 2002
Our Goverment??? A goverment??? but goverments suck
-- Posted by ghettopimp70 on 1:24 am on April 1, 2002
Count me in too.. I have a little experience with weapons and explosives but im getting to be a good lockpicker and im as sneaky as fuck. I could be behind you right now and you wouldnt know it, i have a lot of experience in B&E's so I can do some sort of espionage work or something
-- Posted by kingpin on 2:00 am on April 1, 2002
well if no one else has any objections then i nominate myself for minister of foriegn affairs.
-- Posted by ghettopimp70 on 2:04 am on April 1, 2002
And if you dont contribute in buying the island you have less authority than others. But yeah i agree we dont need an economy but we can sell drugs and get money from other countries for resources
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 5:54 am on April 1, 2002
The whole idea of a hostile take over is bizzar . i dont ot would work maybe but what ever . Not comparing any of us to kings but really the clutter of island thimg would work . like ancient hawwaii spelling king kamehameha had a small island when he started and at the end he ruled all of them even the leppard (spelling) colonie start small then get big but i dont have any real say so in the matter . but if it worked in the past it can still work today .
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 6:32 am on April 1, 2002
listen, we dont need a military straight away, if we do, thats a bad sign. We play it cool for a few years, increase the population then start forming a sort of semi government, also i want to abolish tax on the island, if we want sumthin built like a hospital we casn all build it and save moiney for it together, fuck ripping our citizens of, we want to make a Utopia here, not another US.
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 7:03 am on April 1, 2002
i agree in a way but we'll still need money to buy materials etc. and without taxes....
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 10:31 am on April 1, 2002
First I think some of you are thinking ahead which is good but to far ahead is not. What we first need to do is make sure that this idea is one that makes sence money wise as well as profit wise. The first thing we need to do is develope a revenuye stream. Honestly purchaseing an island is at least 5 to 6 years away. In that time alot can happen. So what needs to be done first is we all come together to make sure that we can all "work" together first then after every ones skills is established we can begin to work on what avenues of making money we will look at first, then as we begin to profit we will need to set up a company to put the money in that we make. Again we don't have to pick any leaders they like cream will rise to the top.
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 10:34 am on April 1, 2002
*nods* our government can hold bake sales or something, weed brownies and such... invite all the world leaders over for a social get together... where we all get high... and talk about how we're peace loving Utopian Seekers,
-- Posted by Ankou on 10:48 am on April 1, 2002
Hm... If you are going to chat on thursday i may not be there to chat with you guys. Tomorrow i'll go on a small trip to another part of finland and i'll be back thursday evening. Just thought i'd tell y´all. But if you dont chat on thursday then everything´s ok. Peace
-- Posted by Ankou on 10:54 am on April 1, 2002
And oh yeah.. Forgot to tell ya. Im about to educate myself in how to build houses. And if it's going to take 6 years before we have the money to buy an island i will have enough time to finish the education. i could help you out if you need a builder or a soldier.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 1:51 pm on April 1, 2002
Sweet. This is awesome.
-- Posted by 7th Street on 2:19 pm on April 1, 2002
I would like to take part in the Conference.
-- Posted by woody8415 on 3:01 pm on April 1, 2002
Wow.....this has grown a lot more than i thought it would when i posted it. Sorry i havent been keeping in touch on our plan, but i have been out of town on some other business. I would like to see this plan go threw. I would very much appreciate it if whoever has gathered everyones emails & s/n's would email them to me.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 3:06 pm on April 1, 2002
Woody
-- Posted by woody8415 on 3:39 pm on April 1, 2002
I am currently looking for an island that would suit our needs. I had 2 that would have been perfect but i seem to have forgot to save them. So when i find them again or another island i will let everyone in on it.
-- Posted by woody8415 on 3:51 pm on April 1, 2002
I found this island that i thought would be almost perfect for this project.
-- Posted by ghettopimp70 on 3:54 pm on April 1, 2002
what kind of government do we want? democracy, dictatorship...? Also our islands main revenue should come from drugs...Any dealer can just show up when they want and buy a shit load of drugs for cheap..we will also need smugglers to bring it into other countries
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 4:06 pm on April 1, 2002
LMAO! It may be kind of difficult for us to get any revenue if any dealer can come buy a shitload of drugs for free, *nods* :p
-- Posted by Mr Mushrooms on 4:15 pm on April 1, 2002
I feel like I'm kinda gatecrashing a party heere and I ahte to put a dampner on anythnig because for what its worth you've put a lot of effort into this and it's been discussed well.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 4:46 pm on April 1, 2002
lol, i wouldnt do that to roland! anyway, if nebdy asks for money on this from you, ignore them, no money shall leave neones hands until the last moment, how we will purchase the island can b decided at a later date. lets do 2 things right now
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 4:52 pm on April 1, 2002
I wonder if we'd qualify for one of those government funding programs that the annoying question mark dude keep nagging about on the television set... gonna go get a copy of the book from the library and see,
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 5:00 pm on April 1, 2002
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 5:43 pm on April 1, 2002
Holy shit...
-- Posted by 7th Street on 6:41 pm on April 1, 2002
A nation's money supply cannot come from drugs. That's ASKING for a kick in the ass.
-- Posted by golkar on 6:57 pm on April 1, 2002
The money issue is going to be a major hurdle. We need a plan that makes it easy to contribute money but difficult for one person to get the money out. Anyone wanna start a church? :) Its funny, but I'm not joking... there might be some advantages.
-- Posted by headcase on 8:19 pm on April 1, 2002
Great idea, I'm in. But your lookin at islands for $1mil and up, bad idea. Honestly it wont work, buy something small, like a holiday island :) .It should be near a country so food, medical aid etc are readily available in emergancy.Also if we could get some builders to the island it would be great, save us alot of trouble.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 8:22 pm on April 1, 2002
Bastard!
-- Posted by kingpin on 8:49 pm on April 1, 2002
are you alright roland, you sound like ur fukin maggoted.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 8:59 pm on April 1, 2002
ok first of all a small island will cost around 1.5 - 2million now the amount of members, not including the ones at bombshock could rase that kinda money in little more than 4 years, with money for weapons and shit like that. Id also like to point out that i used to run a web site called "the peoples NSA" on my OWN server and it was taken down and destroyed after i came back from holidays, so be carfull bombshock.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 9:07 pm on April 1, 2002
i should have mentioned my skills, i can pick locks and im also a cat-burglar.
-- Posted by kingpin on 9:11 pm on April 1, 2002
a cat burgular hey, interesting
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 9:57 pm on April 1, 2002
First off the only reason I am even thinking of this is due to the possible revenue stream for what I am currently doing. I am not a leader nor do I want to be what I do want is to have an orderly attitude towards getting this off the groud. I still say that we are going to have to have a few discussions to make sure that we can all "work" together. In collecting everyones information to give out to everyone is just a means on my part to beging this whole project if it is something I am going to get involved in. At this point I am just like all of you willing to sit down to discuss this.
-- Posted by kingpin on 10:05 pm on April 1, 2002
with the discussion thing i work some nights and i am on call all other nights so if a night is arranged to discuss things i might not be able to make it beccause i might have to work.
-- Posted by woody8415 on 10:16 pm on April 1, 2002
I think that each and every one of us on here that is serious should form a group of people in there own part of the world. This shouldn't be that hard........just talk to your friends and find out how many would be interested in this plan. I figure that if everyone here that says they are serious can form a group of 15-25 people then we should have a pretty good sized group of individuals. Now lets say that out of those groups 5 people in each group have some sort of trade or skill......then we should have a large group of skillful people that can be useful to our plan.
-- Posted by kingpin on 10:22 pm on April 1, 2002
me and ronin can do that in australia, we already know each other
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 10:34 pm on April 1, 2002
Ha.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 6:03 am on April 2, 2002
i think theres something realy good going here, i know a few people i can get together, but how exactly do we tell people, i mean we want to keep it kinda low key for a while so we cant exactly go telling everyone we know and try and convert them. Well im sure we'll work it all out in the discussion. me and kingpin allready know eachother down here in australia so we can start something down here.
-- Posted by kingpin on 7:52 am on April 2, 2002
about this leader issue i think that we should have just a small few of us who first started this thing to be the central leaders, who can cover most of the bigger issues that we will face and make joint decisions and then have lower groups to deal with things that arent as important or when we are busy.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 8:16 am on April 2, 2002
i agree, but its not possible to have just one leader, you would need many sub leaders in each state that keep in contact with the other sub leaders and give orders and so such and so on and so forth.
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 8:53 am on April 2, 2002
but its kinda unfair to everone else that put money foward to buy the place
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 12:18 pm on April 2, 2002
why's that?
-- Posted by headcase on 12:36 pm on April 2, 2002
Ok maybe 'small island' was a bad choice of words. What I really meant was a cheap island. Even if we did gather enough money, who here can honestly say they wouldnt go currupt will $1 million of other peoples money? Although a joined bank account is a good idea, but can you have a joined bank account for 100's of people? If you can it will be alot of paper work. I'm going to look for some more suitable islands. And no one wants to hear about your dick roland :).
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 1:12 pm on April 2, 2002
reckon roland was trippin? i dont mind not being a leader but i can see some people gettin a bit annoyed about being bossed around by others
-- Posted by headcase on 1:28 pm on April 2, 2002
Roland.....are you eating nutmeg again :) ? Ok seriously, I have some info on the Swiss guards of the Vatican, I know that idea is out but if buying the island doesnt work, its still an option.
-- Posted by headcase on 1:29 pm on April 2, 2002
Roland.....are you eating nutmeg again :) ? Ok seriously, I have some info on the Swiss guards of the Vatican, I know that idea is out but if buying the island doesnt work, its still an option.
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 1:34 pm on April 2, 2002
i thought it was decided against taking the Vatican
-- Posted by headcase on 1:38 pm on April 2, 2002
It was, but if all else goes to hell, why not?
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 1:39 pm on April 2, 2002
True
-- Posted by headcase on 1:46 pm on April 2, 2002
Check this out - has a good map.
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 1:55 pm on April 2, 2002
I would like to mention that theres a reason why the vatican chose to use swiss guards... they are far from push overs... they were the most feared mercenaries of there time, fighting in wars all over europe... they were so good at war, that the European nations decided to outlaw the swiss from being mercenaries... except for in the vatican... because they were getting their asses kicked... they didn't even have to join world war II with how close they were to germany because they new the germans wouldn't be stupid enough to attack... not saying that we couldn't take them on... after all... it's been years since they've actually had to fight... and it's mostly just for show theoretically anyway... because who in their right minds would take on the pope... but no reason to go underestimating them because they dress funny, *nods*
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 2:00 pm on April 2, 2002
i am just guessing but is the vatican scratched from the drawing board here guys or what
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 2:02 pm on April 2, 2002
yeah DrunkCentaur is right, anyways Italian tanks have 1 forward gear and 5 reverse so they can run from battle quickly lol
-- Posted by headcase on 2:04 pm on April 2, 2002
Ok I'll say it again, slowly this time, in big letters:
-- Posted by DrunkCentaur on 2:14 pm on April 2, 2002
Why are you repeating yourself? You coming down with alztimers or something?
-- Posted by headcase on 2:17 pm on April 2, 2002
Yes, along with many other things, but smoothcriminal asked if the vatican was scratched from the drawing board, last post, page 8. I was just answering him.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 3:50 pm on April 2, 2002
Hey headcase..
-- Posted by headcase on 3:53 pm on April 2, 2002
What about Antartica, that doesnt belong to any country, I think we should all go to live there! There are even signs that we should claim it....notice the similarities: Antartica - remove the 'T's' the 'I' and change the last 'A' to a 'HY' ..... Anarchy!! It even sounds like it! And don't forget the Vatican, replace 'Vatican' with 'Anarchy' and there you go!
-- Posted by trowe on 4:14 pm on April 2, 2002
this thread is goin to hell. but yes. to me, the vatican idea is still open. as for antarctica, that is a really cold place, and military is there. almost every country has a military outpost there, last i checked anyway. we either need to buy an island, or take one over. if you guys are sayin that no one could trust anyone else with money, than at least trust us with your contacts for weapons. i would personally love to do sum shit here where i live, but i need a gun, and i got no contacts cause i live in a small town in canada. found a dude in switzerland who will ship guns to me, but i need a import liscence. any help on all is helpful...
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 5:35 pm on April 2, 2002
I am sorry to inform the room but the vatican is not open to take over. First the vatican is the home of the pope I don't think the US and other world leaders would allow the vatican to be taken over not to mention all of the other christian groups that would be willing to die to free it. When this topic was first opened I thought that it would be a profitable venture with some like minded people. AAfter reading alot of the post here I am beginning to think other wise. I will however compile and send out the email to those that have email me. To the rest I wish you good luck in your business ventures
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 5:39 pm on April 2, 2002
i cant beleive ur bailing on us analyticworm
-- Posted by iamnogod420 on 6:49 pm on April 2, 2002
A few people I know our interested in owning an island or starting a country. I'm sure that if enough people were interested then we could take one over or even buy one with a collective pool of money. Just as long as drugs are legal I'm in!!
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 7:26 pm on April 2, 2002
Shit! He can't bail on us! Come on man! Don't give up on this. Thats how most people don't achieve what they want is by not following thru,
-- Posted by Nitrate on 7:46 pm on April 2, 2002
Guys, I'm with you 100% in this venture.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 8:13 pm on April 2, 2002
i agree, coca cola had very little security on these islands. There security is limited to the "security gaurd" kind so they would be rather easy to handle. But these islands are very small, allthough bigger than Vatican City so i would rather go to coca cola land.
-- Posted by woody8415 on 9:22 pm on April 2, 2002
Roland why are you bailing on the project just because of Analyticworm? How do you figure that he is the backbone of this project? I have watched lots of people step up (just like he did) to take a leadership role in this plan.
-- Posted by trowe on 9:34 pm on April 2, 2002
analyiticworm thinks we are getting an island to party, do drugs and fuk around and i agree. I have been saying we need to be serious. we are either taking over, or we are buying. no one seems to be certain on this. and one person does not matter roland. sure, he has alot of ideas, and he may have been the best suited for the responsibillity. in his thirties, im pretty sure hes either ex-military, or still in it. but, one man shouldnt stop us from doing this. coca-cola islands sound good, but we are nothing unless we start sharing. people seem to be ignoring my posts, probably because i tell the harsh truth. this will never happen unless we cooperate, and no one is doing that. how can we bring up money to buy an island when no on is certain if we are buying or taking. how can we prepare to take an island, if were not sure if were going to. people, make up your damn minds. you are arguing and flaming for no reason. we need to come to a descision... what will it be? Take an island or islands over, or Buy an island or islands? what will it be?
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 9:38 pm on April 2, 2002
Sorry,
-- Posted by trowe on 9:49 pm on April 2, 2002
ill join ya. a few questions first.
-- Posted by magicphishbowl420 on 10:37 pm on April 2, 2002
i think the whole idea of taking over the coca cola islands is hilarious! but i do also believe it would work with the correct strategizing. i would without a doubt love to be a part of this little "invasion" on the corporate worlds posessions.
-- Posted by kingpin on 11:29 pm on April 2, 2002
roland and analyticworm you cant leave cause if you do thats 2 people who were serious about this that are now gone( im not saying that everyone else isnt serious) we need everyone we can get and you both had alot of experience that could help the project alot.
-- Posted by ghettopimp70 on 11:33 pm on April 2, 2002
I'd like to clear up a mistake i made on the 8th page of this neverending thread. I said buy drugs for free when i meant buy drugs for cheap. I was tired when i wrote that so please stop LYFAO.
-- Posted by ghettopimp70 on 11:47 pm on April 2, 2002
And Headcase has obviously been misimformed about the army in Vatican. Its true it only consists of a few over a hundred, but they are the Swiss army which is one of the most highly trained armies in the world. Vatican also has a police force to worry about and the pope has private bodyguards. Now with the island idea I think we need to spread the word to the underground community as best as we can for extra support with posters or whatever just be creative. And im not sure about this but shouldnt there be some kinda safety deposit box or something a bank can set-up for raising funds where money can go in but not out unless a group of people take it out? Im not sure but theres gotta be something like that that a bank can do for that.
-- Posted by David carr on 3:11 am on April 3, 2002
is there any chance i can be in on this
-- Posted by kingpin on 8:41 am on April 3, 2002
anybody who is willing to contribute can be in on it
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 10:58 am on April 3, 2002
First I am not bailing one anyone what I am saying is that if we are not going to work together and focus on a goal then I would not be apart of just a purely chaotic venture. Now lets look at this whole take over thing again. When you conquer a group of people you have to make sure that you have the resources to keep them conquered. ALso you have to make sure that no one care about what you are doing. So since first of all if we conquered a group of people we would be looked on as terrorist and there for bring trouble more trouble. Second we would have to make sure that the resources to keep them conquered were secure before we did that. It is more cost effective to purchase then it is to take. Once the island is purchased then comes the time to build and secure. Again taking over the vatican and the island that coke owens is not an option now or in the future. Period! I will be out of town for a few days (leaving tomorrow) and I will be accessing my email several times a day. I have forwared all of the emails I have been sent to roland he will compile all of the information and send out the email with everyone's email. Why did I pick him? There was no reason except his was the last email I read, there for was the easiest to use.
-- Posted by kingpin on 11:08 am on April 3, 2002
we should create a company to forward money through(if that makes sense to anyone) and to add a legitimate face to this. we will be taken far more seriously if we look professional.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 11:34 am on April 3, 2002
Kingpin
-- Posted by FairyNuff on 1:55 pm on April 3, 2002
Can someone please post the link to the Coca-Cola islands.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 3:44 pm on April 3, 2002
u idiots, we're not gonna take over any islands thats suicide, we buy the island, it will take years to do it (i would say a good 7 years if you want a good island)but trhats the best way to go about it, you could never take an island, u dont even have a mode of transport to invade on, stick to the buying plan
-- Posted by headcase on 4:17 pm on April 3, 2002
The Vatican is also protected by Italy, as I said before, so I guess that would be a bad idea, and I guess taking anything by force is a bad idea, unless Roland and his team will do it for us. As for Antartica, I was only joking, but the military bases are for research I think. It is coloured grey on political maps, and grey means it isn't owned by any country, any we could use some backup if we start a country. E.g. if we become a part of NATO and we are attacked, they would have to help :).
-- Posted by R0NiN on 10:54 pm on April 3, 2002
Ok people here is a list of islands for sale in the bahamas http://www.privateislandsonline.com/bahamas.htm starting from 75,000 for 1 acre to 7,500,000 for 600 acres.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 11:46 pm on April 3, 2002
Ok i know im just a newbie bastard n all but I was planing to go to tha U.S. navy, But this is a good idea. if yall need a low level grun to kill stuff im your man.
-- Posted by kingpin on 7:29 am on April 4, 2002
i think we should all get the idea that were gonna attack something out of your heads, even if once weve bought the island, which will take a while, it still maybe years until we attack anything, because we need to build up our resouces and other important shit like that
-- Posted by headcase on 12:43 pm on April 4, 2002
However if we start planning something now, it will be easier to do it later.
-- Posted by iamnogod420 on 3:13 pm on April 4, 2002
I think that buying an island is probably the most logical idea. Attacking anything at this time could surely only mean death. I would say the best way to go about this is first to see hw many people are willing to contribute money or help. Since we will need millions we may need many people to help. Not unless someone has enough to buy an island by themselves for us to make use of? nope I didn't think so. What needs to be done is for us to find out just how much money we have and then how much more we will need. I doubt that anyone trying to buy an island is just going to be able to walk into the bank and get a loan. Even if we happen to be way short I'm sure some of the people on here now a few in genius ways to make money. I have seen people make $10,000 in a week off only $1,000. I'm sure its possible to come up with a large sum of money if enough people worked at it in less then a year. So I say the first business that should be taken care of is finding out how much we have and what we need to obtain after that.
-- Posted by headcase on 4:52 pm on April 4, 2002
We are already doing that.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 5:48 pm on April 4, 2002
Hey. Sorry I was out a day,
-- Posted by headcase on 6:07 pm on April 4, 2002
Horay.....ten pages. At the rate this is expanding we will probably rule the world soon. From a simple question to starting cooperations and countrys.
-- Posted by magicphishbowl420 on 7:12 pm on April 4, 2002
i agree with the idea of first buying an island, then "colonizing" and then go from there on to the bigger better things like taking over other islands, countries etc.. in order to obtain a high ranking status in the world we need to show strength and resiliancy which cannot happen if there is total chaos so there needs to be order ( to a certain extent) we also need to show that other countries can benefit from us and that them investibg their time and energy in supporting (or as much as u can call it that) us isnt a waste. theres alot of planning that is involved in this but i definetly thinks possible. hey where theres a will there is a way right?
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 8:02 pm on April 4, 2002
I know we wont attack things right away but i was thinkin bout national security. What about air raid? wed need some A.A. guns, some stingers would work but if they droped a flare it wouldent hit em.
-- Posted by 7th Street on 8:35 pm on April 4, 2002
ANYONE that considers taking someone else's land by force as the 'first territory' is fucking ignorant. Attacking the Vatican, Antarctica (even though I like the name change to "Anarchy"), Cuba, Coca Cola... SUICIDE. What the hell is wrong with you? Do you know what kind of trouble you'd get yourselves into? Just because you've had a little training, mostly BOYSCOUTS, doesn't mean jack shit. I GUARANTEE the United States is monitoring this thread, thanks to Project Echelon, which none of you know about, or are suppossed to know about. So DO NOT consider taking ANYTHING over before you at least BUY legitametely and make a foothold.
-- Posted by kingpin on 8:37 pm on April 4, 2002
should we all start our own individual companies in our own respective countries or should we start an international company that we can run together???????/
-- Posted by Proteus on 8:58 pm on April 4, 2002
this sounds interesting, if u need someone that can hack such as transfer money and such, i can help. Im also good at thievery, i was tought by RONiN.
-- Posted by kingpin on 9:00 pm on April 4, 2002
proteus can you really hack banks or is this just talk???
-- Posted by Proteus on 9:04 pm on April 4, 2002
you dont know me, and ok im nowhere near as good at cat-burglary as ronin and kingpin, im working on it
-- Posted by kingpin on 9:09 pm on April 4, 2002
i do know you proteus or should i say brendon.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 9:15 pm on April 4, 2002
Well, we need something like a simple textile company or a software company - they always make good fronts.
-- Posted by kingpin on 9:26 pm on April 4, 2002
we should start a company that would handle a lot of money and that would do stuff that we are gonna do, for example if we use a textiles company for a front then it will look suspiciouse if we are say buying weopons and stuff like that, we also need something that will turn a profit.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 10:12 pm on April 4, 2002
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 4:17 am on April 5, 2002
im sick of hearing about raiding Cuba, i metioned this before, that is impossible, you cannot raid any country because you need thousands of men, its so stupid, Cuba has camp X-ray there, the american base for afghans! good luck raiding that, not to mention Castro's highly trained guerilla warriors and suicide bombers which would arise.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 7:28 am on April 5, 2002
Hey, i know what ECHELON is, its a servalence system.
-- Posted by 7th Street on 1:07 pm on April 5, 2002
Project Echelon...
-- Posted by Ankou on 1:11 pm on April 5, 2002
I know of echelon too. The US government had sattelites that could zoom in and film a (stamp? im not sure of the word but its the thing you put on letters) on the ground in 1985, so just think how powerful the sattelites will be today. (i know they dont launch new sattelites all the time so the old ones are still up there but they have better technology today) I've heard that lead paint was outlawed i dont know if its true, but if it is, doesnt it make you wonder? they might be spying on you right now with infrared cameras and shit. I know it sounds like science fiction but it is'nt. and when you surf the web you could get into trouble if you have "KaZaa" or "Morpheus" and the like. These programs have a "spy" function. The dudes who made KaZaa and Morpheus can check which webpages u go to and what you write at the computer when you are online. i do not know why they have this function, i read about it in one of my monthly computer magazines. Oh well i must go now.. See ya later people.
-- Posted by trowe on 1:18 pm on April 5, 2002
my house is as well a small hot spot... i got a dad whos been in jail like 10 times, not to mention my friend is an idiot and whever we talk he insists on talking about plans to assassinate government officials. he is a retard. I have also been arrested twice, but both times i got away clean.
-- Posted by headcase on 4:25 pm on April 5, 2002
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 6:02 pm on April 5, 2002
I jm just a dumbass but i do think of some things that need to be addressed. The vulcan cannon idea sounds sweetass 2 me.
-- Posted by MadBomber2 on 7:49 pm on April 5, 2002
yeah i want in too and my e-mail is Jimsterz27@hotmail.com but when u look at the history the time inbetween colonization and expansion is like a century!
-- Posted by magicphishbowl420 on 9:46 pm on April 5, 2002
raiding cuba is just about the worst idea, especially with whats going on out there with terrorists and shit.
-- Posted by Nitrate on 10:18 pm on April 5, 2002
Guys, back to the coke islands.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 10:19 pm on April 5, 2002
I like the idea of this new nation. and i dont care how ling it took but just as long as it happened.
-- Posted by Nitrate on 10:40 pm on April 5, 2002
One thing, to raise money for an orginization, its a really good idea to make the organization an official religious group, (this can easily be done) because then you don't have to pay tax on whatever you earn.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 11:05 pm on April 5, 2002
Hey thats a pretty good idea but i think somone has already stated that. But we will be needing tha bling bling, the cash money. it would ne a long time b 4 we were high rollers but still just aslong as it happens.
-- Posted by kingpin on 2:45 am on April 6, 2002
we should start a religoun then and a company to handle money and shit.
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 3:05 am on April 6, 2002
Just a idea we could break it up into chapters . We could become a anarchy n.a.a.c.p. but with out the protest over shit like flags this way we could have a press from every chapter and all the pres could have like a ameeting to give status of their chapter and shit like that its just a idea then the chapters could meet and see what everyone is about
-- Posted by kingpin on 3:16 am on April 6, 2002
i think its a pretty good idea it would let us start collecting money in our own countries then once the time has come we can all meet up and buy an island
-- Posted by IcedMetal on 4:54 am on April 6, 2002
I was directed here by another post, and I didn't have enough time nor patience to read past page 2.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 8:02 am on April 6, 2002
If I here anything else about taking over a country, im not in this thing anymore, you'r acting like children, YOU CANNOT TAKE OVER A COUNTRY!!! not even the smallest ones, you would be killed in matters of days, US and Russia dont just ignore thoses things you know
-- Posted by R0NiN on 8:24 am on April 6, 2002
Yer, the people that think they can "Take Over" are stupid, the only way to do this is to BUY a island. That will take several years.
-- Posted by Ankou on 8:52 am on April 6, 2002
Yeah.. i say we all save some money. Say.. like $100 a month. or something like that. Then after a couple of years we meet up at some place and buy an island together. This way we wont risk that the person who takes care of all the money runs away with it. i think someone has posted a similar idea before but i thought i'd remind you all. its a good idea. Everyone who thinks they can take over some place just like that. THINK. if you think it over you will find out that it will be a pretty stupid thing to do. Theres a war against terrorism going on right now and it isnt just the US who takes part in it. If you succeed in taking over some place they will bomb you and kill you all in one way or another.
-- Posted by logan on 9:38 am on April 6, 2002
You guys are fuckin' awsome, over the time I've been here, you guys have almost been like family to me. I want the fuck in!
-- Posted by headcase on 10:27 am on April 6, 2002
Any nice islands within strike range of the coke islands? No reason, I'm just curious :).....what? Anyway Afganistan is still way to powerful for us to consider. US special forces are still being killed there by rag heads, and there are loads of international forces there supporting the intrim government....complete suicide.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 12:14 pm on April 6, 2002
get the hole "take over" idea out of your head, im serious! this is gonna b legal, even if we do buy an island we donnot take one over after that, its fucking gay and suicidal!
-- Posted by headcase on 12:23 pm on April 6, 2002
Ok, but we will have to satisfy our violent needs on the island. Is everyone against the "take over" idea? Even if we have a working country first?
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 4:59 pm on April 6, 2002
This is final: No take over.
-- Posted by kingpin on 5:13 pm on April 6, 2002
hey sorry ive been out for a couple of days but im back and i agree that we need to get the idea of attacking out of our heads. also when are the emails being sent out, is analyticworm still in on this???
-- Posted by headcase on 5:22 pm on April 6, 2002
Well that's disappointing, I was just going to start robbing some guns, oh well. But just out of curiosity, who wants to attack the coke islands?
-- Posted by kingpin on 5:23 pm on April 6, 2002
shit if you wont to attack something go start a new thread and stop posting all over ours>
-- Posted by headcase on 6:19 pm on April 6, 2002
I want to know because if enough people are up for it we could start our own country! We don't need you guys who object to our freedom of speech! Isn't that what our island is about! Freedom!You are all facist pigs!
-- Posted by golkar on 6:55 pm on April 6, 2002
I'm still here... but wondering how to move to the next stage. After 11 pages the only solid decision that's been made is to NOT take our country by force :) Another reasonably solid decision is that each person start saving on their own.
-- Posted by kingpin on 3:24 am on April 7, 2002
hey roland did analytic worm send you the list of emails i'd really like to get that list together and get a chat room set up and also has analytic worm left the project or is he just not replying??
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 12:12 pm on April 7, 2002
He sent me a .zip file with names. I haven't looked at it yet :( but I will.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 4:05 pm on April 7, 2002
Ok ok no attacking. But defensive matters are a must and we will need some sort of income to the island. The island would need an economy.
-- Posted by golkar on 6:55 pm on April 7, 2002
Well, Sealand is setting themselves up as an offshore data repository. "The Millenial Project" suggests a data-based economy too. I would prefer having some real stuff to trade too, maybe small items with high resale value. Products or items that depend on local resources should be exported in limited quantities. An island nation would be too limited in biomass and mineral resources to trade them for mere money.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 7:38 pm on April 7, 2002
Fish, opium, marijuana, and other agriculture shit. I'm serious about the marijuana and opium. We could propose medical marijuana to USA and other countries.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 7:57 pm on April 7, 2002
I was thinkin 'bout a Mercinary job thingy. People could hire us for our knowledge and then we charge high prices and make them pay for the transportation.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 8:04 pm on April 7, 2002
Also.. since so many people come to this forum..
-- Posted by golkar on 8:49 pm on April 7, 2002
I have no problem with people growing marijuana and I think poppies are about the best looking flower on the planet. Anyone that wants to grow them should be encouraged.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 9:28 pm on April 7, 2002
Id say so. evry 1 need some fix 4 tha day. I know i do. Now the thing is we need more than just drug money. We would need some sorta food source also.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 9:41 pm on April 7, 2002
lol,
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 11:26 pm on April 7, 2002
Also we would need medical supplies I myself give myself stiches most of the time and i hardly ever get hurt badly witch is supprising.
-- Posted by impulse on 1:10 am on April 8, 2002
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This is the funniest shit I've ever heard.. You people are actually serious..
-- Posted by impulse on 1:13 am on April 8, 2002
I was referring to a post made near the beginning of this thread where you were contemplating taking over Vatican city or whatever its called...
-- Posted by IcedMetal on 1:41 am on April 8, 2002
Of course its possible to take over a country. How do you think the Taliban managed it?
-- Posted by kingpin on 7:58 am on April 8, 2002
we should get together and start a bussinness first and then start to collect some serious money and then buy a huge island and continue our bussinness from the island aswell as making it a country.
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 9:24 am on April 8, 2002
Ok I have returned. I have been away for a bit akin care of some business. Roland where are the emails?
-- Posted by kingpin on 9:39 am on April 8, 2002
thank you analyticworm,
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 9:59 am on April 8, 2002
Kingpin
-- Posted by kingpin on 11:02 am on April 8, 2002
i am serious about this i am prepared to give up my time to this project, what i hope to get out of this is
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 12:25 pm on April 8, 2002
Well there will always be new member joining and unfortunatly old members leaveing. What I would like to see is the core group sit down and establish some type of guid to be agreeded on by all members.
-- Posted by headcase on 2:00 pm on April 8, 2002
Ok the takeover thing is failing miserably so I'm posting my well thought out and revelant comments here again. Have we decided the island yet because thats an important part of our project. I suggest Long Island off Australia, it was mentioned before. It's in http://www.privateislandsonline.com/longocau.htm
-- Posted by headcase on 2:09 pm on April 8, 2002
Also if you look at it on a good atlas you'll see it is surrounded by lots of small islands and one big island (Quail Island) which is about 1 and a half km at it's closest point.
-- Posted by impulse on 2:32 pm on April 8, 2002
Okay, lets get to making our own country!! First step: Someone donate to our charity $1,250,000 to even own the land.
-- Posted by headcase on 2:44 pm on April 8, 2002
Go away impulse
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 3:03 pm on April 8, 2002
Before we can choose and Island or anything we first need to develope a plan to raise the neccessary revenue. we are putting the cart before the hose if we do otherwise. The actual purchase of the Island is at least 6 to 7 years away. Before we do anything everyone who is thinking about this needs to sit down and decide if they have the ability to give there full mental and physical commitment to this. We each before this topic was opened had plans and goals that we were working towards. How does this project fit it to that? that is the question that needs to be answered.
-- Posted by chroniccrescent on 4:08 pm on April 8, 2002
-- Posted by headcase on 4:32 pm on April 8, 2002
How do you get opium from poppies?
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 5:58 pm on April 8, 2002
Scrape the inside of an unripe seed pod with a pin or sumthing and a white goo will come off. Thats opium. It should turn black I think.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 6:45 pm on April 8, 2002
I c i am gettin ahead of the island idea. I have no lasting connections to this lad they call america. I dont like it here and i wish to help in any way to make this idea work.
-- Posted by trowe on 6:48 pm on April 8, 2002
Money shouldnt be a problem with an expected time span of 6-7 years. I will have some very good cash coming in very soon, so i will start saving. How much money are we looking at saving? around 10 million?
-- Posted by MadBomber2 on 8:59 pm on April 8, 2002
Lets say we wanted to stage a hostile takover I found a weapons provider online that has some heavy shit that could kick some helicopters ass if they werent moving too fast. heres the link. http://www.37mm.com
-- Posted by MadBomber2 on 9:07 pm on April 8, 2002
sorry bout this i double posted and i cant delete it so sorry guys im still getting used to this forum's user interface.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 9:24 pm on April 8, 2002
We need to listen to Kingpin, the absolute first thing we need to do is establish a business to use as a front, now because heaps of us live in different parts of the world we would need to spring up "chains" of the business and all profits from it go into the one bank account. Now people that want in with the island buying can give money buy; buying shares in the business or donating money to it. This whole set up would not look suspicious to the banks or police because it’s a totally normal set up those businesses do. Plus the money would be gained in no time.
-- Posted by kingpin on 9:25 pm on April 8, 2002
yeah money making ideas is what we need to be thinkin about right now aswell as things for the long run but we gotta think about now for now.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 9:39 pm on April 8, 2002
Now the business fron would be what? we need to start this shiznit asap. I could sell weed but im already on probate for beating a pussy ass prep up.
-- Posted by kingpin on 9:43 pm on April 8, 2002
i think matters like this would be better discussed in a chat room at the apropriate time ( you never know whos listening)
-- Posted by bk208b on 10:22 pm on April 8, 2002
I think we should Find a very small island that has some gay ass indians that still use bows and spears and hold them hostage with our guns and make them build our houses and do all our work. When its all done we can make them do repairs and take out the trash. LOL
-- Posted by kingpin on 10:29 pm on April 8, 2002
that is stupid there are no islands were indians still use bows and arrows and slavery will not be tolerated on our island.
-- Posted by IcedMetal on 10:33 pm on April 8, 2002
I suggest we speak with Microsoft and get their backing on this project. Maybe let them have some island space for factories or something.
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 10:37 pm on April 8, 2002
Just as long as theres some way i can get tha BLING BLING if ya know what i mean. Cash money wont b a prob but the fine Blings cost some shit.
-- Posted by kingpin on 10:38 pm on April 8, 2002
no that is a bad i dea we should keep this between us and us only
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 10:54 pm on April 8, 2002
Damn Icedmetal good idea. I am still gonna try tha stock market though sor both personal gain and for the island.
-- Posted by kingpin on 11:01 pm on April 8, 2002
read the fake id thread in this forum.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 6:57 am on April 9, 2002
Microsoft? thats insane, they are the most evil organisation in the world - they will backstab you. Never trust microsoft with anything.
-- Posted by kingpin on 7:17 am on April 9, 2002
bill gates is a nerd.
-- Posted by cheryl on 2:13 pm on April 9, 2002
if u got bill gates on the island he wud obviously try and worm his way to be king!! and take over everything!!!!!!!
-- Posted by 7th Street on 2:43 pm on April 9, 2002
... WTF.
-- Posted by Mr Mushrooms on 3:21 pm on April 9, 2002
I'm pretty sure Microsoft are reading this anyway...
-- Posted by bmw310 on 3:31 pm on April 9, 2002
Yeah microsoft sucks, but we could use bill's money pretty well for weapons and all the other crap we need to have a country.
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 4:10 pm on April 9, 2002
lets get the microsoft shit out of our heads
-- Posted by MadBomber2 on 7:01 pm on April 9, 2002
Fine we'll get Apple to sign on with us and then this will create jealousy among microsoft and then they will come to us and offer us a bigger deal!!!
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 10:01 pm on April 9, 2002
Thanks yall i got a mexican to buy me some cigs but im going to try to pay this inturn at the dmv to make me one.
-- Posted by trowe on 9:17 am on April 10, 2002
Can we please fukkin stik to the island? we are getting side trakked. Who is serious about going all the way in this. Thats making the money, putting it towards the island, and be at peace with this. I for one am starting the paperwork of a small company I am starting to make. It's small, but it will help bring in revenue. Any kind of company will do, but you have to remember that you need massive profits.
-- Posted by MadBomber2 on 3:21 pm on April 10, 2002
So far I have set aside bout 500 dollars for this deal. I thing everyone who helps bring in revenue should get a certain amount of stocks and the amouint varying depending on how much they provided. Then They will be reimbursed later on for like a 1% increase.
-- Posted by trowe on 5:13 pm on April 10, 2002
I as well have saved quite abit of money for this, but I have to invest in my company, so now I must use it. But my company should be running within a couple of weeks to about a month max. How is everyone else doing with saving money?
-- Posted by Roland49686 on 6:20 pm on April 10, 2002
I got ~about~ $1200 saved up.
-- Posted by trowe on 6:32 pm on April 10, 2002
I have an idea for a company, but what would you guys suggest for a good company idea?
-- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 7:55 pm on April 10, 2002
Allright Im have about 500 buck stored up to invest. im starting small and working up.
-- Posted by Mastermind on 10:35 pm on April 10, 2002
I have no money, but i have some good ideas. They might take a month to catch on but we have time. Maybe a few moinths to catch on.
-- Posted by R0NiN on 2:52 am on April 11, 2002
Anyone who is not 100 percent serious about this should leave - we should think of a business or something to raise money.
-- Posted by kingpin on 3:34 am on April 11, 2002
we could start a charity for some cause then us the money to do what we need with it.
-- Posted by smoothcriminal on 3:35 am on April 11, 2002
about the list who do i send my info too all i have is aim (aol)
-- Posted by freebirdmatt on 3:39 am on April 11, 2002
i got a $100 for it
-- Posted by kingpin on 4:11 am on April 11, 2002
you'll need alot more than that
-- Posted by freebirdmatt on 4:14 am on April 11, 2002
after we get the island we can get aid from the us or some other country. that could be alot of money
-- Posted by kingpin on 4:17 am on April 11, 2002
thats a very good idea we could get international aid when we are starting out as a country.
-- Posted by freebirdmatt on 4:24 am on April 11, 2002
they would probably donate med supplies and food etc...
-- Posted by freebirdmatt on 4:25 am on April 11, 2002
they would probably donate med supplies and food etc...
-- Posted by Da Jaggalo on 9:07 am on April 11, 2002
Count me in,
-- Posted by Mastermind on 9:23 am on April 11, 2002
I dont think any countries will give us stuff, its like becoming a country so that u can get free stuff, and trhey'll figure it out. A government is completely dumb until it comes to giving stuff away for free, like supplies. I just dont think becoming dependent at the beginning is the right way to go about things, we might be in debt to a country and they'd take us over to get our money
-- Posted by Analyticworm on 10:40 am on April 11, 2002
Again you are putting the cart before the horse.
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