-- Posted by The Great Milenko on 12:03 am on Mar. 2, 2002 Hi all, i just wanted to say that i'm making up a set of rules for this site and i'd apreciate some feedback and ideas on some rules, after all this is your site too! and for everyone thats sick of all the newbs spinning bullshit in the forums, we'll make it so you can't post until you've read the rules, so there will be no exuse for breaking them and they'll be deleted outright! So feel free to post any rules you think would be good, i've already thought or a couple, like you cant make a new thread untill you've posted in existing threads atleast 10 times, and there is to be no questions at all asking shit like "how do i make a bomb?", you may be thinking well then how will ppl be able to learn recipes, well i'll ask xpl0siv to update some of the archives and put some good manuals in it, like the makeshift aresenal and other trustworthy manuals and also you're not allowed tO wRiTe LiKe ThIs, cause thats gay, and you must pre read your posts and fix any spelling mistakes and punctuate your posts properly, if you think that this is too harsh, or if you havent got up to learning how to punctuate properly, you shouldnt be on such a site as this!! of course theres no age limit because we believe in freedom of speech, but of course if your only young, you shouldnt be making H.E's without expeirence! Anyway i'm ranting now, so tell me what you think of the rules so far! And also some rules you think would be good! -- Posted by qube on 4:42 am on Mar. 2, 2002 Definately the punctuation, people cannot even talk correctely on this website! Also delete threads or posts that are ALL IN CAPITALS, see how annoying it is? It overcrowds the rest of the threads and pushes some down. Another thing, no double threads, pretty damn annoying, MAYBE a limit to the ammount of threads postable in a day but some people on here might not like that. -- Posted by Hergor on 7:21 am on Mar. 2, 2002 if you're going for that thread-limit, i suggest a basic ammount of threads plus one per 'member level' (just in case someone's really gotta ask several important questions...) but after reflecting on that, i'd say a thread-limit isn't such a good idea... -- Posted by Just0nePepsi on 8:11 am on Mar. 2, 2002 Yea no thread limit. You could have more admins just to delete the double/stupid posts. -- Posted by jmb1125 on 9:54 am on Mar. 2, 2002 I always preview my posts because poor spelling and punctuation make a person look stupid and uneducated. Besides that, you will get your point across more clearly. -- Posted by jmb1125 on 2:39 pm on Mar. 2, 2002 TGM, What's up with the UpPeR-cAsE/lOwEr CaSe shiaaaat? Is that supposed to look like a ransom note or something? Or maybe like a bad-ass GaNsTa-TyPe? Seems kind of trendy, might last as long as Vanilla Ice. -- Posted by qube on 7:02 pm on Mar. 2, 2002 If you ever needed moderators, i beleive there are actually a select few who are dedicated, everyone can see who they are because its obvious who they are, i wont mention names because people will think im being gay! -- Posted by The Great Milenko on 8:34 pm on Mar. 2, 2002 Yeah, jmb the "UpPeR-cAsE/lOwEr CaSe shiaaaat" is a gay type of writing made up ages ago by so called "pHrEaKeRs" and "hAcKeRs" but it just show immaturity! i dont really think that a post limit would be a good idea but perhaps it could have its advantages, oh yeah and if one more person asks how to make "simpleton bombs" or "bombs in your kitchen" is banned! i'm already going to bann the fucker who made two threads on "simpleton bombs" but your right qube, we do need more mods, we'll be on the lookout soon maybe, but plz dont send emails asking to be one everyone cause that doesnt help. (Edited by The Great Milenko at 6:35 am on Mar. 3, 2002) -- Posted by qube on 8:41 pm on Mar. 2, 2002 Sorry bout that, i just enquired HOW someone would become one, not IF i could. You need to be able to trust them those, for instance i cant see Arnor making a moderator :D It would be fun to be one those, prehaps a different person for each forum, eg Drugs etc, maybe an extra moderator or two, but not too many! Prehaps a vote between people would help, i dunno! -- Posted by The Great Milenko on 8:41 pm on Mar. 2, 2002 Oh yeah and for all the newbs, if your thread goes missing it's because me or another admin deleted it!! so it wont help you by making another one exactly the same!! if i delete a post outright, it's because it's so stupid i'm not going to even bother to post in it and tell you how gay it really is!! :angry: this has already happened a few times when i've deleted a thread made by some ignorant newb, and he/she has gone "derr it must be a glitch, i know! i'll make it again so everyone can learn from my amazing smoke bomb tips!" so for fucks sake dont bother posting until you've smartened up if i delete one of your threads or posts. -- Posted by jmb1125 on 12:09 am on Mar. 3, 2002 at least two of my posts have been deleted. -- Posted by Zero Dark on 12:39 am on Mar. 3, 2002 I know no on cares what I have to say, but don't be too hard on new members, after all every one starts some were.  Also I think it's stuped for people to make more than one thread about the same thing make it so you can't do that.   -- Posted by largeidaccam on 5:51 am on Mar. 3, 2002 Yeah im sick of that aswell , but i doubt that you could really fix it other than just deleting the thread Altho you cant stop what peole say i think that you should just leave the flaming up to the Admins becasue its just a waste of space on the site if people keep flaming the newcommers and to that post that Qube made about the spelling thing well i cant spell , i know i cant spell and seeing i cant spell check things i just leave most of my posts altho most of my mistakes are typeos , thats just my input -- Posted by qube on 7:44 am on Mar. 3, 2002 Its not that much the spelling just the punctuation, if you can make out words that people say its okay, aslong as they have an excuse, like you do. To ZeroDark, the newbies complain and say they get treated bad, but if they didnt double post and be gay then they wouldnt get flamed. You luckily are a more sensible newbie and say something worth reading, most newbies post some fuck about nothing related to the topic, ive seen some shit like "i like pickles", he is definately up for a flamming or banning from a moderator. Another rule could be if you dont log into the site in a month or longer you get deleted, get rid of some people that dont ever use it, unless there is a thing that does that. If your going on holiday for a while you could have to email a moderator so you dont get deleted, just a thought. (Edited by qube at 8:07 am on Mar. 3, 2002) -- Posted by emergencygangsta on 9:05 am on Mar. 3, 2002 Yeh, i agree with qube on that, because i am sick of people posting topics, you reply and then they just fuck off and dont come back -- Posted by qube on 3:43 pm on Mar. 3, 2002 Another thing i hate is people who post a reply, then post another one straight after saying "oh i forgot to mention...etc etc" WHY dont they just Edit their first post? So i think Double posters should be shot too, aswel as double thread starters! -- Posted by jmb1125 on 10:57 pm on Mar. 3, 2002 largeidaccam, your posts are very readable and you always have something worthwhile to say. TGM, maybe you can make newbies take a test. Like mutiple choice: If I start a thread about smokebombs I will: A) get flamed B) get flamed and deleted C) get flamed, deleted, and my ass chewed (Edited by jmb1125 at 11:16 pm on Mar. 3, 2002) -- Posted by The Dark Avenger on 2:05 am on Mar. 4, 2002 #1 This is a FREE site with FREE access to the forums. Rules are for people who give a shit. #2 If you are going to make rules, be prepared to follow them. I have caught several spelling errors as well as punctuation and grammar errors throughout EVERYONE'S posts. #3 What the hell is an ANARCHY site supposed to stand for if it becomes regulated? #4 Congradulations, TGM, on getting a blue name (whatever that is supposed to represent) but don't become assinine. As for a suggestion: I know how much of a pain it is to see post after post asking questions about a topic that was discussed only weeks or days earlier. To remedy the problem, why not make a site search that is capable of searching forum topics? This would be a great help to everyone. First of all, newbies (myself included) can find things easier without going blind or perhaps overlooking the topics posted earlier. Secondly, it would (idealy) dramatically decrease the ammount of re-posts. Just an idea. (Edited by The Dark Avenger at 2:07 am on Mar. 4, 2002) -- Posted by Hergor on 8:02 am on Mar. 4, 2002 he mr. Dark Avenger, all of us have blue names but it takes a 'sub-normal' ammount of alcohol in your blood stream to see this. the reason that The Great Milenko's name is a brighter blue is that he's one of the moderators. but to see this you can as well remain drunk... -- Posted by Hergor on 8:18 am on Mar. 4, 2002 another idea: how about a 'newb section'? newbs then can only post there until they've showed that they are able to post useful things. then they're granted access to the other sections (of course they can read what's inside there from the beginning on but they can't post until permitted)... -- Posted by qube on 3:15 pm on Mar. 4, 2002 Teehee i were gonna mention a Newbie forum, but it sort of makes the site look weird. I saw a Newbie forum on a different site, it would work, kinda train up the newbies. -- Posted by Mr Mushrooms on 3:56 am on Mar. 5, 2002 Hate to bitch but I'm sure you were all New Members once, separating us would be a bit autocratic, don't you think? There are several New Members that have useful things to say, and those that don't are widely berated anyway and rarely taken seriously. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no metter how long you've been a member. -- Posted by Hergor on 4:02 am on Mar. 5, 2002 but that's what i said! when they proove to be worthy and not to post shit they get access to the other sections... ;) (Edited by Hergor at 4:02 am on Mar. 5, 2002) -- Posted by preditor on 1:04 pm on Mar. 5, 2002 Now, I think you guys have good ideas, but on the wrItEinG like that I think flameing it will get "XplOsiv" a little mad. As you can see, well you get it. And on the grammer and spelling does that mean we have to go back and look at all our posts, then correct them? I see some of you guys have like 500 or 300 posts. Correcting them all may get a little tedious. also there should be something that makes someone state or agree that they are not involved in law enforcement before the can enter the forum. seems safer that way to me. -- Posted by qube on 4:18 pm on Mar. 5, 2002 Mr.Mushrooms, we were once newbies, but we prehaps never posted shit like some newbies (not sayng u do), if all the newbies posted decent stuff and didnt run off the site crying coz they are gay im sure we would have a few more people that are 100+ posters, it will be kinda like the army, if they get past boot camp they can get into some real acion ;) Theroretically true or not i beleive that when people pass about 40-50+ (less with smarter people) posts they magically click and realise NOT to post fuck.......just my thoughts. Also none of what i said was aimed at anyone! The idea would be good those, it could filter out the any future Arnors or Hearts, LOL! Funny stuff. (Edited by qube at 4:20 pm on Mar. 5, 2002) -- Posted by jmb1125 on 6:35 pm on Mar. 5, 2002 What about the "preview" feature? I always use it. Could it be locked into mandatory use? It might help a little. -- Posted by somefukinsnapov on 2:57 am on Mar. 6, 2002 hmm yeah i can spell properly ..i think ,cept when im pissed or really stoned(now c'mon TGM i know ura stoner too;) ) but i like jmb's idea,if the preview post thing comes up all the time then noone will make mistakes,cept macca;)jokes bud..... but the spelling and punctuation thing wont help for the pissheadds OR the other countries that dont speak fluent english...ya get me...........¿   or am i just real pissed again -- Posted by emergencygangsta on 2:50 pm on Mar. 7, 2002 The thing i am most certain on is the uPpEr CaSe LOweR CaSe thing, because i dont see the point, i mean it took me ages to do that(well longer than it does when i am writing like this)so it just takes you a lot more time to post. Other people might be able to wRItE LIke ThIs very fast but i doubt it. -- Posted by Lowman on 9:15 pm on Mar. 7, 2002 I rember when i was a newbie there was no such thing as a Forum i had to connect to bbs. Now thats why alot of you newbies get flamed because you can't think for yourself. It be hard to inforce the spelling and punctuation rules through. I looked at the code on the site and you can put preview on all the time you just have to edit the code a little. -- Posted by preditor on 12:24 am on Mar. 8, 2002 why not put in a spell checker? -- Posted by FileShocker on 12:55 am on Mar. 8, 2002 Preditor had a few good ideas. 1.)Make people state & agree they aren't law enforcement. 2.)Put in spell check. -- Posted by The Dark Avenger on 2:33 am on Mar. 8, 2002 "he mr. Dark Avenger, all of us have blue names but it takes a 'sub-normal' ammount of alcohol in your blood stream to see this. " Just to clear things up, I know what the brighter color of blue represents, thus the reasoning for the comment following the insert. As for having a "sub-normal" amount of alcohol in my blood stream, rest assured that when I post here there is NO alcohol in my system. I don't put ppl down for what they do with drugs and alcohol, but that sort of activity's just not my cup 'o tea. As for this particular topic, I agree with FileShocker. Don't be stupid asses about what is going on here, just make it easier to catch mistakes and stuff. As for the No Police stuff, check out http://www.eliteprodigy.com for a pretty up front disclaimer. -- Posted by Hergor on 7:32 am on Mar. 8, 2002 ok, got that... i've just been a little 'freaky' that day and needed to rant. sorry for that... :) no-police check? what a profound idea... ;) -- Posted by jmb1125 on 10:29 pm on Mar. 8, 2002 haha I think the cops would be hard pressed to put some of us under watch..........but gee, you know that van across the street has been there for days....lol... -- Posted by peace on 1:10 am on Mar. 9, 2002  you know i have realized that the LoWeR CaSe, UpPeR CaSe follows the same procidure as the darker, lighter pattern on the post. would you consider this to be gay as well (personaly i dont care either way, I fuckin hate patterns i built up some mental block in 2nd grade)   -- Posted by Hergor on 3:58 am on Mar. 9, 2002 jmb, you mean it's been the cops? is that why there's suddenly so many icecream-sellers around? lol ;) -- Posted by bigboom on 4:34 am on Mar. 9, 2002 so that was a microphone in my dillybar dammit,lol i like the grey/wite patern its easier on the eyes than than solid white or gray and I like all the rulez xcept spelling a grammer i'm a slow typer and if i have to punchuate all the time the thread will allready be a day old   (Edited by bigboom at 4:36 pm on Mar. 9, 2002) -- Posted by The Great Milenko on 7:31 am on Mar. 9, 2002 With the spelling and grammar one, it isnt something that you MUST do, but still try and read over your posts once you've written them but before you post them, bad grammar just makes posts harder to read, and as for ppl that can spell but just cant type, just proof-read your posts before posting them, that way your posts will come out right and for anyone that cant speak english, use a good translator, any posts in any language other than english will be deleted, of course that doesnt mean if you were to say somthing in another language that iw ould get deleted, but if you make a thread or a post that is entirely in another language, then it will be deleted, this may sound racist, but i can assure you i'm in no way racist and only want to make the forums easier to read. For the person who posted the link to eliteprodigy, they're disclaimer is really good, i might make something similar, because that sort of disclaimer would be legally binding, so any piggers that look around our site can't charge us for anything because they shouldnt be in the site in the first place. As for the upper case lower case typing, making names out of it like xpl0siv's is'nt that bad, but to make a whole post or question looks really stupid and is a waste of both our time and the person typing it, plus it's so kewl and tryhard anarchist like, of course this isnt meant to offend xpl0siv. In answer to dark avenger question that: "#3 What the hell is an ANARCHY site supposed to stand for if it becomes regulated?" Well i spose thats a good question, but anarchy isnt about this "no rules, total chaos anarchy bullshit" it's about having a heirachy free society in which everyone is equal, so stop reading anarchist's cookbook bullshit, and of course this site needs rules otherwise it would be no better than *shudder* totse or queerpier. Oh yeah and there is to be no talk about the Anarchist's cookbook from now on unless it is used in a negative manner, and that also includes any recipes from it!! :angry: like we have'nt already seen them before anyway!! And if you accidently post a recipe that just happens to be from the AC but you didnt know about it i'll be lenient, and there is also to be no more talk of smoke bombs, of course this means just the usual, i dont mean anything specific, your allowed to ask about perhaps different colored smoke (but i think it's already a topic) and the same goes for fuses! but for all the newbs who need to know the basics, i'll post a link to the makeshift aresenal, or perhaps we could have it in our archives, that way newbs can learn about the basic stuff that everyone else already knows about, therefore letting us disscuss more indepth topics without being swamped with "how do i make fuses" threads every five seconds!! (Edited by The Great Milenko at 10:43 am on Mar. 10, 2002) -- Posted by jmb1125 on 10:15 pm on Mar. 11, 2002 Rather than post anything from the AC, we would have you sing show tunes or Whitney Houston songs. -- Posted by Hergor on 9:27 am on Mar. 12, 2002 rather than posting anything from the AC, we would like you to play martha stewart and post some DIY guides to mail-bombs or stuff... ;) (things you invented and guarantee to work - although this isn't always the case at martha stewart's...) :biggrin: -- Posted by NAILBUNNY on 4:18 am on Mar. 24, 2002 Forgive me if these topics have been raped already, but i've been scouring only the threads that interest me, as there are (yes i agree) waay too many threads by morons who are too lazy to research.  (i understand completely if this ends up deleted......)   Whilst the spelling idea is refreshing, it's also a bit of a waste of time.   I've known some of the smartest of people who can't spell or exercise correct grammar for shit, but have some extremely bright ideas well worth sharing.  Also, the idea of the amount of posting acting as a standard for members seems slightly misleading.  As I'm sure everyone is aware any moron can post a bazillion threads or replies to go up a level on membership, and this can be unreliable to everyone, let alone newbies such as myself whom are looking for useful information from the more respected members who actually deserve their status.  We are more unsure of whom to trust, and more thirsty for knowledge.   I do respect and recognise the hard work the affialiates invest into this site, for without you, where would our answers reside?   However, there is quite a bit of useless resentment against some "newbies".  My suggestion is a combination of amount of posts and intelligent/useful commentary therein to determine status, though your system does seem to work, as the  presently respected deserve their status.  ;-)   >goodnight insomniacs, your true dreams live on in the imagination -- Posted by Strobe on 7:01 am on Mar. 24, 2002 a good way to tell is waiting about an hour and if they get completly flamed then just ignor them -- Posted by GhEtTo BoY on 1:01 am on Mar. 26, 2002 ok heres my rule, maybe before you start banning people you should at least give them a warning, something like :  your posts are shit keep this up and you will be banned and also there should be a system that if people post bullshit then they shuld have their skulls taken away -- Posted by Mr Mushrooms on 1:57 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 Unless people are seriously out of order we do make a point of warning them, e.g. I warned Critical Damage about posting lots of short answers and Hippie John etc, we wouldn't just ban someone stright away without warning them. MM -- Posted by soulburn on 1:06 pm on Mar. 29, 2002 no offence to any of you but i think this ranking shit has gone to your heads. it seems people on this sight are so obsesed with getting a higher rank that they forgot the original purpose of the site...to share underground matterial. i see people who joined this month that are moderators and people that joined last year who are still new members. hey maybee its just me but i think some people are begining to drift away from the true reason this site was established. thank you -- Posted by NAILBUNNY on 4:46 pm on Mar. 30, 2002 i think by modifying the ranking system, eg change it so that something other than the number of posts determines rank, would solve your most frustrating problem of stupid useless irrelevant posts.  perhaps the amount of months could be substituted?  or in special cases people could be bumped up.  if a person is a member of this site for five months that to me would show they deserve their status, simply because they aren't stupid enough to get banned and they have the balls to stick around. -- Posted by soul burn on 12:50 am on April 1, 2002 personally like i said before i can care less for this whole ranking shit but a question i have is at the bottom of the posts theres always a number that is supposed to be your total posts but mine is always like 9 or 7 and i know damn well that i posted more like 40 posts in the 3 months iv been around. like i said im not trying to boost my rank but this question is sheer curiosity. edit: now at the bottom of this it has 33 which is probably acurate but look like 2 posts up and it has 9 for the total. that was posted like 2 posts before this one. (Edited by soul burn at 12:52 am on April 1, 2002) -- Posted by StorncH on 6:29 am on April 3, 2002 I have just singed up to bombshock and i think it is really good as it is. I do think you need some rules but not overboard. -- Posted by davetheduck on 12:04 pm on April 5, 2002 To get rid of the problem of new members who have little experience in this field, i suggest some kind of "retards corner" which lists some of the very basic stuff about H.E and other stuff so assholes won't be asking stupid questions like "how do i make a bomb?" -- Posted by TheAnarchist on 2:48 pm on April 7, 2002 I think the spelling and grammer and preview is important...a really hard bomb to make and someone spells something wrong or forgets to put in a word and then someone trys to make a bomb and blows them all to hell.  i dont wanna try to make a bomb then get blown up cuz of some spelling error     http://www.bombshock.com