-- Posted by preditor on 9:30 am on Dec. 7, 2001        I noticed in a lot of posts that the subject matter ends up dealing with guns or knives. I thought I would make a post for questions on or how to make alternitive weapanry, concealed weaponry, or improvised weaponry.     One of my fovorite concealed weapons is to take a wooden pencil (Those pencils that are like glue and dust are too weak) and remove as much graphite as possible without splitting the pencil. take a thin metal rod (can be found in hardware stores) and apoxy it into the hole. you can sharpen this to a point or a small bladed edge for slashing. (something you can't usually do with a thin weapon. -- Posted by Sicopath on 6:39 pm on Dec. 7, 2001 Remove a knife blade from a cheap pocket knife, sharpen all edges. Enlarge the hole that should be present, thread a long tassel through the hole and tie it. There,.... you've made a beginners/poor man's throwing knife -- Posted by somefukinsnapov on 2:03 am on Dec. 8, 2001 or  whenever im walkin around i  usually have a frothy vb in mah hand so when i finish it it goes in me pocket..smack that accross some fukin goobers face and see if he gets back up .not bleeding. works fer me -- Posted by firestyle on 11:07 am on Dec. 8, 2001 i'm pppppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeddddddddddd xplosiv is cool -- Posted by The Great Milenko on 1:57 am on Dec. 9, 2001 Quote: from Sicopath on 4:39 am on Dec. 8, 2001 Remove a knife blade from a cheap pocket knife, sharpen all edges. Enlarge the hole that should be present, thread a long tassel through the hole and tie it. There,.... you've made a beginners/poor man's throwing knife That sounds sweet!! ima make one, but what does the tassle do? does it make it go straight or what? i've seen proper throwing knives with tassles would you throw it like a normal one or would you throw it straight without making it spin so it goes straight? -- Posted by Sicopath on 5:06 am on Dec. 10, 2001 Yeah, the tassel makes it go straight, but most of the time, the blade isn't  heavy enough to really give a good puncture, if you want it to be a combat weapon, rough the surface and smear it with poison or tranquiliser. You can throw it almost any way. The knives without tassels work by having a thin tail end, like the ones on modern javelins. -- Posted by preditor on 12:16 pm on Dec. 14, 2001 Have any of you guys ever been confronted by too many assholes to deal with. I found a solution. Take two white out bottels and clean them out real good. fill one with bleach and one with amonia. when the assholes come up to you poor both on the ground and cover your face. a small mask like used for keeping dust out of your lungs is a good touch. make it clear this is vary toxic and the assholes should go away, or the might just die. either way works for me. -- Posted by The Great Milenko on 10:11 pm on Dec. 19, 2001 I dont know how much of a good idea it is to dump a whole lot of chlorine gas on your front porch everytime some asshole comes over with his crew, i dont think just covering your face will do the trick either cause this shit will melt your lungs like sulfuric acid, and also you said "and the assholes should go away, or they might just die." well in answer to that they would die if they breathed in even the tinyiest little bit of it so unless you want some dead bodies on your hands i wouldnt suggest this =/ (Edited by preditor at 12:31 am on Mar. 19, 2002) -- Posted by preditor on 8:59 pm on Dec. 25, 2001 All valid points but first, Desperate Times call for desperate. I didn't mean you would do this. "Everytime some asshole comes over with his crew". Second with the amount of liquid stored in a white out bottel it wouldn't be as potent as you make it sound. It can burn your lungs makeing you cough blood, But it won't if you cover your face because theres not much of it. The assholes probably wont die either unless they disregard the initial warning and purposely inhale the stuff. If thats the case the should Die. You must have missed that I said in a white out bottel and thought I meant a significantly larger amount. If it was more than you would be totally right. -- Posted by The Dark Avenger on 1:20 pm on Dec. 26, 2001 Death is a very unpredictable occourance. A teaspoon of water can drown a man. Less than a pound of pressure applied to a specific location precicely will kill a man. A person can get shot in the leg and die (sever the main artery and bleed to death). Ammonia and chlorine, when combined, creates a very poisionous gas. Each person will react differently to this mixture. A waft may kill me while it would take a lung-full to kill you. Never assume that any attack, whether it's physical, psychological, chemical or otherwise, is nonfatal. Each and every attack contains an array of circumstances that may lead to becoming fatal. If we all lived in a Hollywood movie and interacted only with trained stunt men/women, we could believe in imortality. We don't. -- Posted by preditor on 1:57 am on Jan. 6, 2002 Well your right. I can't argue with that. To be less incorrect I should have said it isn't often leathal in such small quantaties but you never know. Is that to your likeing? I hope it is. -- Posted by Vertigo on 5:31 am on Jan. 18, 2002 Simple weapons abound in the world around us.  Be it a 4" stick, or a 2000 lbs. vehicle.  If you can grasp it, it is a weapon.  A hand ful of salt thrown in the eyes will blind.  A pen is a great stabbing weapon, and can cause BLOOD POISIONING. -- Posted by Omagaman on 9:52 am on Feb. 9, 2002 Oh, I have a shooting knife by the way. (Edited by preditor at 12:34 am on Mar. 19, 2002) -- Posted by preditor on 2:21 pm on Feb. 13, 2002 I recently discovered a good club like weapon I made out of bolt cutters. All you do is take them apart, then on the haldel that is split at the top to manipulate the blades remove the peg or screw. when you hit with it use the side thats locked in. the part that swings will close in with the strick giveing it a bunch of added momentum -- Posted by rishka on 1:51 am on Feb. 19, 2002 wel , since im the only chick whos left a reply on this , and most chicks are viewed as being not real strong . so id like to know about some moves that anyone could do . i know im strong enough to lift someone who is 10kg over my weight off the ground , but not for real long , so anything that will allow me to knock em out before they get me or attempt to rape me would be fucking brilliant. and if anyone knows how to king-hit a guy or girl(not that you guys would have kinghit a girl recently) i would really like to know exactly where to hit them so theyre down and out for the count. buh bye R (Edited by preditor at 12:36 am on Mar. 19, 2002) -- Posted by DISTURBED on 4:59 am on Feb. 19, 2002 HEY RISHKA, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOME QUIK AND PAINFUL MOVES THAT WILL DISABLE SOMEONE I KNOW MY FAIR SHARE OF THOSE. IF FOR EXAMPLE YOU ARE FACED WITH A RAPIST I DONT THINK I WOULD RECOMEND THE OLD KICK TO THE BALLS ROUTINE. MY SOON TO BE EX-WIFE DID THAT TO ME WHEN I FOUND OUT SHE CHEATED ON ME WITH A LITTLE SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD CHICKENSHIT BASTARD. UNFORTUNATLY FOR HER I DIDNT GO DOWN AS SHE EXPECTED AND I ALMOST KILLED HER WHEN THE DAMN NEIGHBOR CAME BY AND I COULDNT KILL THEM BOTH BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR WAS A FRIEND OF MINE. BUT I ENDED UP IN THE HOSPITAL WITH A TESTICLE THE SIZE OF A BASEBALL. THATS OK THOUGH I ENDED UP FUCKING HER BOSS AND SHE LOST HER JOB. BUT IF I WERE YOU I WOULD JUST BUY A STUN GUN. I HAVE ONE AND THERE ALOT OF FUN. YOU CAN WALK INTO A CROWD OF PEOPLE AND ZAP SOME POOR JACKASS WITH 150,000 VOLTS AND EVERYONE JUST THINKS THEY ARE HAVING A HEART ATTACK OR A CEIZURE. AND BY THE TIME THEY FIGURE IT OUT YOUR LONG GONE AND NO ONES THE WIZER. IF YOU WANT TO LEARN HOW TO BE A BAD ASS I WOULD START READING AND PRACTICING. THATS WHAT I DID. IF YOUR LOOKING JUST TO END A CONFRONTATION QUICKLY I RECOMEND A FORWARD NUCKLE PUNCH TO THE THROAT OR AN OPEN PALM IN AN UPWARD STRIKING MOTION TO THE NOSE. AND REMEMBER NO MATTER WHAT DONT STOP PUNCHING AND KICKING UNTILL THEY ARENT MOVING OR IF THAT IS YOUR GOAL UNTILL THEY STOP BREATHING. -- Posted by preditor on 9:50 am on Feb. 19, 2002 Yeah, kicking the balls wont be the best thing to do. if some tries to rape you or something grab their balls, twist, and pull. If you do this hard enough their balls will come off -- Posted by preditor on 3:02 pm on Feb. 25, 2002 I saw an interesting weapon recently. in was a chain with pointy weighted ends. it looks like it would be easy to make. all you'd have to do would be to get a good peice of chain and hook on weights, simple. this is a rangrd weapon you spin it around and through it ond it dous impact dammage, and if the ends are point, pierce dammage. -- Posted by OzzY on 3:31 pm on Feb. 25, 2002 about that grab, twist'n pull method: AAAAAH how can a man come over with SUCH an idea?! you really frighten me, dude :'( -- Posted by preditor on 9:38 pm on Feb. 25, 2002 I read a lot. I read combat books, I read self defense books, I read mercinary books. it is tested and aproved but not a creation of my own mind. but back on subject has anyone seen anything like that chain before? here is a picture http://www.budkww.com/partsview.asp?action=lookup&partno=D2501&subject=U9&catpos=6 -- Posted by IAmWatching on 11:55 pm on Mar. 10, 2002 I made a pair of Kamas. I took two hatchet handels andbought two tools that were like mini sicles, I took bolt cutters and cut the sicle heads off. I bolted the heads into the handels and like magik, a pair of Kamas -- Posted by Radiant on 7:26 am on Mar. 11, 2002 I like a duct taped iron or brass bar. But the problem is one little hit in the head and he's a goner. -- Posted by Pyro Pants on 9:47 pm on Mar. 11, 2002 I believe the chain is called a Malkari chain or something close to that.  Very useful for crackin' skulls. -- Posted by preditor on 12:59 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 I like those kamas, I train with a pair of nice ones. and radiant, what do you mean, did you duct tape over the bar? Last night I made a cool pair of "knuckel spikes" I made them entirely out of duct tape and screws. I made a few layer thick thing of duct tape and screwed all the screws through it. I then put a bunch of layers of tape on the back of the screws to pad them. I then added two tape straps to hold it tight to my hand. I can send a picture if anyone wants to see them, because I don't think I explained it well -- Posted by Radiant on 4:07 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 Preditor, just take a brass or iron bar and duct tape all over it. Also tape extra tape a bit up and on the bottom so your hand wont slide. Id like a pic of your knuckle spikes. radiantphraxor@hotmail.com -- Posted by preditor on 11:20 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 I'll send you a pic then, and I don't get the point in tapeing the entire thing up, why not just the handel (Edited by preditor at 11:34 pm on Mar. 14, 2002) -- Posted by preditor on 11:38 pm on Mar. 14, 2002 yesterday I made some nunchuks, they were so easy to make, I can't buy them in this state. the guy I made them for wanted a nice wooden pair that would NOT break no matter what he did to them, so I spent the extra money (and will make the extra profit) and bought an ax handel. I cut it into the two peices I needed and screwed to I hooks in, one on each peice and linked the chain right to them, again if anyone wants a pic I'll send it. -- Posted by Radiant on 7:56 am on Mar. 15, 2002 Im making a cool weapon. Its a isolated leather glove with two spikes on the middle knuckles, the spikes are connected to a power supplie on the wrist so when you hit someone they get a 360 v chock. Its also gonna have a built in stilleto knife that opens with a snap of the wrist. -- Posted by rishka on 6:32 am on Mar. 16, 2002 Respected Affiliate           -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, kicking the balls wont be the best thing to do. if some tries to rape you or something grab their balls, twist, and pull. If you do this hard enough their balls will come off ----- damn man , thats good , i like the sound of that . the only problem would be , that they'd have to be pretty advanced in their attack for me to get really close to do that . and i like the idea of the stun gun . stick that on a guys balls and he'll have to think twice. that punch or move (cant remember who posted it) that used your palm to hit the nose , i read somewhere that if you hit hard enough , you kill the person in question . im not sure though , so might be wrong. something about a piece of bone being forced into the brain? the noly reason i asked about that , was because there had been a series of rapes in my general vicinity in the last few weeks/months , so i want to be prepared for the kind of bullshit thats going to be thrown my way, if that happens that is. -- Posted by preditor on 12:38 pm on Mar. 16, 2002 it works better if you pretend you are going to let them have there way with you, and when there guard is down you strike with a vengence. the thing with the nose does work, it's in my special forces hand to hand combat book, hit hard with your palm under the nose at a 70 degree angle (straight up being 90) and FALLOW THROUGH or it may not work. also you should yell fire instead of rape when it happens because more people will respond to a fire than a rape, and it helps confuse the rapist. -- Posted by rishka on 9:08 pm on Mar. 16, 2002 yeah , you'd have to follow through , and i dont know about the rest of you , but im a short arse (5'7) so if i had someone 6'4 comin at me , i'd be well and truly screwed(not in the literal sense). i do like the ida or atacking with avengence when their  gaurd is down tho. -- Posted by Roland49686 on 10:14 pm on Mar. 16, 2002 I like my 2 x 4 with a nail thru it. Works every time. Or a baseball bat. I have these things I made a long time ago. I took a little keychain and took all the keys off so I had a metal ring thing. Then I took some skateboard hardware ( the little nutz that go on the trucks) and put about 4 on each ring loop. I wore them as a ring and punched this one kid. I was in out-of-school suspension for 40 days because i broke his nose and it wouln't stop bleeding and I punched his temple causing him unconsiousness for 2 days. Those things worked wonders. They were taken for evidence tho... shit. Peace -- Posted by rishka on 10:29 pm on Mar. 16, 2002 well yeah , the 2 x 4 sounds like a good idea , but how are you going to keep that concealed? be a lil bit hard dont ya think? the idea of having knuckle dusters with spikes on them or having them with studs sounds even better. but talking to a few people about nunchucks , they would be even better if you knew how to use them. -- Posted by Roland49686 on 10:31 pm on Mar. 16, 2002 Well... for the 2 x 4 u just sit on ur porch smokin a blunt. Someone shouts sumthin stupid at ya. so u pick up ur Ol' faithfull and ream the fuckers head in. No concealment neccrey. Peace -- Posted by Roland49686 on 12:35 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 Maybe this idea will work: Find a loose board on your porch. Or make one. Anyways make sure that when someone steps on the board the board will fly up and hit them in the knee. Well the person's food should also fall in the hole so the board will drag to the person's groin area. Put 3 nails thru the top of the board to the nails will go into the person's knee and tear up all the way to the person's balls/pussy. Ouch man. Talk about defence against asshole/ door-to-door salesmen Peace -- Posted by JollyRoger on 1:13 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 GDay Check this shit! Sorry Its so long, but what the fuck- read it, could save your life. Reply to me if you cant understand it and Ill explain.      Survival ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   By: The JollyRoger      Dedicated to the Bombshock     /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ This file contains the elements of street fighting and fighting with weapons. TARGETS OF SERIOUS INJURY ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Into corner of eye. (Will blind, and hemorrhage) *Into pupil of eye. (Will blind, hemorrhage or kill via optic nerve) Throat. (Hemorrhage, extreme pain) *Into esophagus. (Hemorrhage, extreme pain) *Into heart muscle. (Fatal stoppage) Into stomach or sides. (Can hit vital organs, hemorrhage) Groin. (Hemorrhage, and very "uncomfortable") *Into mastoidal opening behind ear to brain. (Fatal) Anywhere along the spinal chord between the vertebrae. (Causes paralysis, hemorrhage, possible death) *Base of skull upwards into lower brain. (Same as above) Kidneys. (Hemorrhage, extreme pain) ------------------------------------ The items marked with a '*' are extremely dangerous to hit. The shock of the blow or the actual blow can be fatal. MEDICAL IMPLICATIONS OF BLOWS & KICKS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Have you ever wanted to know just what these blows and kicks were doing to the victim??? (You should print this part out, because it refers to the list all the way through) A. Considerable pain B. Possible bleeding C. Disorientation D. Serious injury unlikely E. Greater possibility of serious injury F. Possible brain damage, shock force G. Breaking of nasal bone; nose bleeding H. Impractical I. Numbing of arm J. Unconsciousness K. Convulsions possible L. Damage of carotid artery M. Possible diaslocation of 7th cervical vertebra N. Startle, stun, hemorrhaging O. Brain damage P. Little serious injury Q. Knockout R. Gasping/choking; possible death S. Muscle spasms T. Broken rib; could rupture kidney U. Internal injury to organs V. Fracture, tear cartilage or broken bone W. Dislocate knee; tear ligaments X. Dislocation Y. Fracture Z. Fracture, metatarsal bones A1. Permanent injury A2. Blindness A3. Possible fatality TYPE OF FIGHT ------------- Small person vs. large person------\ Large person vs. small person----\  \ Two equally sized people-------\  \  \ ______________________________________ FORCEFUL side of hand slash or A  E  H hammer fist to bridge B  F of nose       C  G D FORCEFUL open hand slash or    I  F  H hammer fist to side  J  J of neck                  K  L FORCEFUL hammer fist or open   A  A  H hand blow to base of  M  M neckE  E FORCEFUL temple blows by heel  F of palm, hammer fist, J or elbow blow              K FORCEFUL blow to side of nose, A  A  N fist slash, elbow         B  B  P smashG  G                   C  C FORCEFUL blow, up under nose,  A  A  N heel of palm, elbow    B  B  P smash, slash                 G  G C  C FORCEFUL claw, poke, thumbing  A1 A1 A1 to eyes                  A2 A2 A2 FORCEFUL blow, up under chin,  Q  Q  C fist, heel of palm,       A  A elbow smash C  C E  E FORCEFUL blow to ear, fist or  C  C  H cupped hands FORCEFUL blow to Adam's Apple, E  E  C straight hand hit           R  R  D FORCEFUL blow to hollow of     E  E  C throat, straight hand R  R  D hit FORCEFUL blow to side of neck, J  J  C slash, hammer fist     A  A  J                   C  C  A A3 A3 FORCEFUL blow to collarbone,   D  P  H slash, hammer fist    I                 Y FORCEFUL blow to base of neck, A3 A3 A open side of hand,      A  A  D hammer fist C  C  H FORCEFUL blow between shoulder D  E  H blades, hammer fist FORCEFUL blow to kidney area,  T  T  D straight-in punch or   E  E kick technique           A3 A3 FORCEFUL blow to Solar Plexus, T  T  D straight-in punch,        E  E heel of palm, kicks     A3 A3 FORCEFUL blow to last rib,             A  A  H fist, elbow smash           D  D FORCEFUL blow to inside of     A  A  D elbow joint, open     D  D hand hit FORCEFUL blow to outside of       Y  Y  Y elbow, Atemi, Waza    X  X  X  A  A  A FORCEFUL blow to forearm area, A  A  A tip of mound  I  I  I FORCEFUL blow, lower abdomen & A  A  A groin, kicking               C  C  C techniques   E  E  E   U  U  U FORCEFUL blow to knee, kicking A  A  A techniques C  C  C X  X  X                    Y  Y  Y FORCEFUL blow to shin, kicking A  A  A techniquesC  C  C X  X  X Y  Y  Y FORCEFUL blow to instep, heel  A  A  A stamp                  C  C  C X  X  X Y  Y  Y Z  Z  Z FORCEFUL blow to ankle,        A  A  A kicking technique C  C  D              X  X               Y  Y                Z  Z THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OF STREET FIGHTING ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1. Never underestimate your attacker. Assume that he is dangerous. 2. Don't get fancy. Use simple but effective tactics. 3. Always be sure to maintain your balance. 4. Be quick and keep the reactions flowing. Keep striking, never let up until    you know your aggressor is down for good. 5. Nothing is unfair. THERE ARE NO RULES! 6. While counter-attacking, NEVER lose sight of your opponent. 7. Deliver ALL blows to weaker areas. 8. Keep yelling and cursing as you counter. 9. Use any available object or weapon to detract your assailant's techniques. 10. Fight as if YOUR life depends upon the success of YOUR counter-attacks. It      just might! NERVE CENTERS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you happen to have some medical books, or charts, here are some nerve centers of the human anatomy. Head /\/\ Occipital bone First cervical vertebra (Atlas) Second cervical vertebra (Axis) Frontal bone Frontal sinus Nasal bone Nasal cartilage Epiglottis Hyoid bone Thyroid gland Windpipe (Trachea) Musculo/Skeletal System /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Sterno-mastoid muscle Trapezius muscle Clavicle collarbone Sternum (Breastbone) Humerus bone Elbow joint Ulna bone Radius bone Pelvic region Carpal bones Metacarpal bones Femur bone Knee joint Patella Gastrocnemius muscle Tibia bone Fibula bone Tarsal bones Metatarsal bones Torso & Vital Organs /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Windpipe Carotid artery Jugular vein Heart Lungs Liver Kidneys Intestines Spleen Thats all for now -- Posted by preditor on 6:55 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 well, that was insightfull. thancks. -- Posted by Roland49686 on 10:03 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 That thing fuckin kicks ass! -- Posted by Gerdyman123 on 11:06 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 hey man   you could just order nunchuks out of black belt magazen   or century mag   http://www.centuryfitness.com/webapp/commerce/command/ExecMacro/cmas/macros/main.d2w/report -- Posted by Gerdyman123 on 11:13 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 Um  i personally dont think the strike to the shin would do much unless you were in front of the guy and did a slide side kick directly to the middle of the shin  then it might break.... hmmm..... Or just take a martial art like i am...  i would sugest  Tae-kwon-do   And jujitsu -- Posted by preditor on 11:49 pm on Mar. 17, 2002 I took tae-kwon-do for a couple of years. I wouldn't recomend it as an offensive/combative fighting style. it is fine as a defensive fighting style though -- Posted by Sicopath on 4:15 am on Mar. 18, 2002 That's the problem, there are too many martial arts designed purely as a competitive sport. There are few designed as combat arts. The common things with these are the amounts of practicals facing another human. These are designed to increase combat-confidence. Another good art is Knife-fighting. But they don't do many practicals for obvious reasons. -- Posted by koKaInShane on 6:45 pm on Mar. 21, 2002 Its simple if you want to do some damage take a du rag(hankerchif) and tie it through the pad lock....hit some on and through it in the woods to hide the evidence....Have the steal toes on to shit stomp them make the kiss the curb -- Posted by Roland49686 on 8:45 pm on Mar. 21, 2002 Poisons and other 'not messy' killers are probably what you would have the best chance for getting away with a kill. Then dump em' in the ocean. But for a cewl weapon... a glock or 9mm UZI (if u can get one) suffice for urban combat. But for hand-to-hand I have a nazi sword I could run any ol' fucker thru. I can sword fight better than this rich queer that lives down the street that takes lessons. Peace Roland (oh yeah I'm cool!) -- Posted by preditor on 2:51 pm on Mar. 22, 2002 have you guys ever seen those knives with the 4 edges? well I took a big one of those and bolted it to a chain. I then hooked the chain up to my staff. now I got this wiked sweet weapon, I forget what it's called though. -- Posted by Roland49686 on 3:44 pm on Mar. 22, 2002 Shit man. That could fuck up someone so bad! I just started a new project... I have taken my CO2 BB pistol and am trying to convert it into a dart gun. And with some heavy duty sedatives... yeah man. I could infultrate any building with it. I'm gonna commit some Espeanoge (spelling?) on my school. Go in there and make all the security go to sleep sleep. With my nightvision I got at Enerdine (science shop) I can do anything. Nightvision kicks ass but you have to pay alot for a good pair. I wanna know where to get IR goggles tho. I know some commercial types are made but where? Peace -- Posted by preditor on 3:26 am on Mar. 23, 2002 well first this is about hand to hand weaponry, not dart guns. second: for $30 you can by a professional dart pistol and lace the darts with a sedative. It would be much esier -- Posted by Roland49686 on 9:13 am on Mar. 23, 2002 Really? 30 bucks eh? where could I get it? Hm, Sorry about the distraction on the pistol thingy tho. I'm not too into hand-to-hand cuz I think thats too easy to loose since I'm not skilled in hand-to-hand except sword fighting and w/ staffs. So I would loose any battle w/o a gun. :) Peace -- Posted by johnny 99 on 12:15 pm on Mar. 23, 2002 Well atleast you know your limitations roland. However, you really should learn to fight,It seams like trouble only comes around when you've left your toys in the truck/house/whatever. besides they can't confiscate your 2 greatest weaons your mind and your body!!!  But everything else is up for grabs. -- Posted by Roland49686 on 1:08 pm on Mar. 23, 2002 I think I should learn some combat skills as far as weaponless. Not martial arts but sumthin like how to disarm an enimy. Blocking, punching, kicking, kill points, Ouchie points. So on and so forth. -- Posted by preditor on 2:39 pm on Mar. 23, 2002 hey Roland, here's your dart gun http://www.budkww.com/partsview.asp?action=lookup&partno=CM1399&subject=U7&catpos=8 and what you just described is called martial arts :wink: also, I would recomend learning nunchukus, if your good at them youl never have to use them, just swinging them around will scare most people -- Posted by johnny 99 on 3:49 am on Mar. 24, 2002 OK roland, heres the deal,  if you want a good weapon that you will always have with you its called a kobutan it goes on your keychain. and works sort of like brass knuckles,a bar in your palm and 2 spikes sticking out between your fingers.   -- Posted by From Hell on 3:27 am on Mar. 25, 2002 Just thought I'd anwser a couple things here,(even though nobody asked) the knife with the four edges is a stilletto and the chain with the weights is a Mariki Gusari. Sorry, I know the subject's have already been passed over, but I just had to post this, for some strange reason. -- Posted by johnny 99 on 11:06 pm on Mar. 25, 2002 Quote: from From Hell on 8:27 am on Mar. 25, 2002 Just thought I'd anwser a couple things here,(even though nobody asked) the knife with the four edges is a stilletto and the chain with the weights is a Mariki Gusari. Sorry, I know the subject's have already been passed over, but I just had to post this, for some strange reason.                                      A stiletto, is by definition, just a slender, stiff bladed knife. ie. sykes fairburn . Although you often hear people refer to gravity, or automatic knives as stilettos or filettos. The four bladed knife (from the movie the shadow?) I assume. would more proerly be termed something like a quatrefoil I would imagine. You did however get the chain right. (Edited by johnny 99 at 4:09 am on Mar. 26, 2002) -- Posted by shanooki on 7:39 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 Okay, we are talking about Hand-To-Hand weaponary right? okay then. Go out to your local outdoors mans shop (ie. Galiyans, mc sporting goods, even fuckin walmart) and look for the Carabeaners they are mostly used for moutain climbing and keeping your keys on them. this is what you do. get 3 3ft lenths of nylon cord and braid them as tighly and as neatly as possible and tie one end arounf the Carabeaner and hot glue it on there and take the other end and tie it around a key ring which hold many keys and also hot glue the braided cord here. now when you are say walking alone in a dark alley and someone tries to kick your ass just pull out this contraption and hold the Carabeaner in your fist liek you would a pair of brass kuckles and swimng the other end around, when the end with the keys strikes the attacker he will suffer from pretty deep lacerations and if the attacker comes to close for swinging like a mace just punch him in the cheek with the Carabeaner held like brass knuckels. This comes in very handy for me when i'm walking to and from work.  I've had to use it on several occations. -- Posted by Roland49686 on 9:13 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 Shit where do you live? Peace Roland (Edited by preditor at 2:20 am on Mar. 29, 2002) -- Posted by shanooki on 10:13 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 Roland, I live in a pretty peacefull town of Zeeland, Michigan but i'm am almost always being followed home for some reason or another b/c ppl don't like other ppl b/c they are different in my town. My older brother showed me how to do this I'm only 16 and i've been making improvised weapons and bombs since my older brother first showed me how to make a Molotov Cocktail.  I can say that mayhem in the sence of just making things go BOOM! without and harm to others is my one true hobby. Rock On! (Edited by preditor at 2:22 am on Mar. 29, 2002) -- Posted by peopleofchoice on 1:12 am on Mar. 29, 2002 Another way of making  "Studded knuckles" is to buy one of those belts or braclets with the studs on em. break off one stud for each knuckle then attach them to a metal peice and voila your knew play toy. -- Posted by knightmedia on 1:37 am on Mar. 29, 2002 Rishka, If it is something that you seem to encounter frequently, you might try changing your scene. Since I give you more credit for intelligence than that, I would recommend carrying pepper spray. It can turn a pretty might man into a wining piece of roadkill pretty quick. However, for simple unarmed self defense, preditor has a good point about the nose. One good upward stroke will disable. If you were a bit bigger or a man of the same size, you might be able to kill with that maneuver. Other pressure points to note are the collar bone (either a swift downward stroke on the forward collar bones, or a sharp downward pressure into the shoulder valley), the solar plexus (the tip of the sternum, with a sharp blow) and the small of the back (with your knee). Other areas to aim for are the eyes and adam's apple. Whatever you do, don't hit the man in his nuts. For one, it is the first place he will protect, and even though he may be in grave pain, his lust for revenge will overcome it. While you may have already been dealing with a hostile man, you will now being dealing with a berzerking hostile man with alot more rage than you will be able to take. A sharp tongue is deadlier than a razor, just as the pen is mightier than the sword. Remember that a man's ego is his weakest part. -Jake -- Posted by rishka on 5:14 am on Mar. 29, 2002 thanks knight , yeah ,i do get a few people who like to have a go -they dont get near me as such , so something like that would really fuck them up. and most guys are bigger than me-not very hard , so anything that would disable them is brilliant. i've been thinking of carrying around some pepper spray , but i have to be able to get it first, its not that easy to get in australia. unless theres something im missing. -- Posted by Roland49686 on 11:41 am on Mar. 29, 2002 Hey man! I live in Traverse City, Michigan! K3wl. I know this dosen't add to the discussion but I think it's kinda cool -- Posted by knightmedia on 2:06 pm on Mar. 29, 2002 Rishka, I remember hearing once before that it's difficult to get in Australia (pepper spray), but you can always improvise it. Grind up some of the nastiest hot peppers you can find and put the juice in a travel spritzer bottle for a simple start. It's not quite as disabling as real pepper spray or mace, but it will sure make the guy regret getting into it with you. A small stun gun, if you can get one, is also a decent choice. And if you've ever seen those little sonic defense thingies that make a high pitched squeel, the sound is enough to disable the largest and deafest man. I hope that helps. -Jake -- Posted by logan on 6:51 pm on April 7, 2002 This is like the 4th time i've posted this, but I think it's fucking awesome. Just think everyone should know. Thought I'd post my ideas anyways. First, go out and buy a flag. take one of the poles, these can be used as they are, but I've always gotta push the envolope. thke duct tape, and tape one end. make sure you close the bottom. make, and pour cement down the top, and pack as thightly as poss. before you do this, drill about 4 holes in the top part, so when you fill it with cement, it'll stay in the pipe. Take electrical tape (duct tape isn't a good handle), and cove the duct tape on the handle. The last step is to take a engraver, or drill, and engrave the name, "The Shit-Head Beater" near the handle. This works best if it's only about 2 1/2 feet long. try not to go above 3 1/2 feet. You can't swing it as well, if you do. Presto! "The shit-head beater", or at least thats what I call it. If its small enough (2-2 1/2 feet), you can carry it in a school sack, or like me, with all your other weapons, in your trench coat. You can also take a hollow pipe, cover the end, and place a little circle of cardbord in the bottom, so the tape isn't sticky, fill half way with little lead files, or (and this works best), fill with fiber-glass fileings. find a computer chair, back grip. it's used to cove the sharp pipe, on cheep chairs. you can also use any other non-perminant cap, that fits the pipe tightly. place this on the top of the pipe. When in a fight, take off the cap, and with an over-head swing, swing it as hard as you can. aim this at the guys eyes/face. the fiber-glass peices get imbeded in his skin, he'll start to mone and scratch his face, but he's only driving them deeper. once he starts scraching, beat him in the head. the cops use a fiber-spray to control convicts. but they have to take a shower after they get sprayed, if they don't, they swell up, and itch all over. they usally fall over as soon as their sprayed. both of these tried-and-true methods, work wonders. I carry one with me every where. It's half cement, and half fiber-glass/lead fileings. This one works the best, and it's only 2 feet long. I hope this helps.      ~Peace, Bro~ -- Posted by Radiant on 1:18 am on April 8, 2002 What the hell logan??? why do you post that on every single thread???     http://www.bombshock.com