-- Posted by BEEFYWIENERS on 10:51 pm on Mar. 11, 2002 We wanna make something that will shoot a pipe bomb, or a flower bomb....and if anyone knows how to do any of that...please reply! thnx! -- Posted by jmb1125 on 11:46 pm on Mar. 11, 2002 mmm...sounds to me like you need a mortar. have you made pb's already? out of what? expand your question, please. -- Posted by bigboom on 2:36 am on Mar. 12, 2002 kinda like whut you want,get a cheap modle rocket from wally-world and put touch sensitive explosive on it,piont at something just a little high  launch P.S. this is very dangeruose and stupid and i only did it to destroy my bros rocket and beside when your "hi" the dumbess most dangerous idea is the coolest -- Posted by Hergor on 10:07 am on Mar. 12, 2002 air pressure powered spud guns work great as improvised mortars. so what you need is a pipe bomb with a contact explosive (not those powerful ones!!! i'm only talking about the primer! the rest of the explosive charge is something else.) or impact trigger (electric igniters with a 'push-button switch')... -- Posted by jmb1125 on 6:34 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 Does it need to explode as soon as it hits? Sure, this is better, but not easier. And what kind of explosion are you looking for? Just a boom, or a fragmantation effect? -- Posted by preditor on 10:02 pm on Mar. 12, 2002 you could rig a string to it so that after a certain distance it would blow, that would be safer than launching impact explosive out of a pneamatic devise -- Posted by JT666 on 12:25 am on Mar. 13, 2002 Sounds like you need a good old petrol mortar to chuck them a distance -- Posted by Justin Clarence on 12:37 am on Mar. 13, 2002 Whatever weapon or method you settle on, DO NOT PUT EXPLOSIVES IN UNTIL YOU HAVE TESTED IT.  With homemade mortars, the accuracy could prove suicidal.  Time tested traditional methods suggest that air powered pump guns are more reliable. -- Posted by preditor on 12:43 am on Mar. 13, 2002 I think you're right Justin, the pneamatics are more reliable but much less convenient, if you want to take it on the go then you need the morter -- Posted by JT666 on 1:17 am on Mar. 13, 2002 my ones allways worked and goes fairly the ony prob is the spark plug needs a lot of cleaning still is good makin holes in cars using mountain dew cans never really tried explosives in it but could be done. -- Posted by Biohazard on 12:49 am on Mar. 16, 2002 The simple combustion spudguns are remarkably accurate. I have one that can hit a car at 200yds. The projectile could be a fin stabilized unpowered missile with a shotgun primer + nail detonator. Instant impact mortar! -- Posted by jmb1125 on 1:15 am on Mar. 16, 2002 Biohazard, that idea sounds alright, but I would be a little concerned if that primer arrangement wasn't rear-mounted with an inertia firing pin. -- Posted by preditor on 2:09 pm on Mar. 16, 2002 yeah, any impact at the speeds and distances were talking about woul easilly set of a primer no matter how you set it up, thus it would be dangerous if you set it up the wrong way -- Posted by BEEFYWIENERS on 9:25 pm on Mar. 18, 2002 oookkk....now all you guys gots ta do, is tell me step by step instructions on this. I want this gun to shoot a pipe bomb or sumthin of the sort, atleast 500 feet...200 at the least. all I need to know, is how to make it, how to test, how to make the bomb to fit it, and every single ingrediant that is put in both these. thnx sooo much guys! -- Posted by preditor on 11:36 pm on Mar. 18, 2002 This seems a lot like spoonfeeding, lol. well if you want more specific help, then specify which of the ideas you want to incorperate -- Posted by stephenericrose on 1:40 am on Mar. 19, 2002 LOL  i agree with Preditor on 2 points..  it would be a little..  not.. smart to launch a contact explosive from a weapon that would blast it..  and the idea about the string..  that would blow it after say, 200 yards.  and then you could use something to roll it back. the string pulling detonation seems to be the best idea i have read. -- Posted by None on 5:22 am on Mar. 19, 2002 i agree, unless it got caught on something. i would use a fuse for ignition if it were for amusement rather than a weapon which may need impact ignition. no way would i use a fuse on a combustion cannon, or anything other than a pneumatic. a guy called Zero the Inestimable said he made a crater maker launcher. he just had a pipe with an endcap that fits CO2 cartridges snugly, poured in sum black powder, then lit a crater maker and dropped it in fuse first... id only use blasting fuse for this. -- Posted by jmb1125 on 7:40 pm on Mar. 19, 2002 That sounds insane. A person should side-fuse the base of the laucher tube with a loose b/p charge inside, with the projectile resting inside, and get the hell away. -- Posted by LethalToss on 9:07 am on Mar. 26, 2002 i think the problem is in the impact if you use something like a powder cannon you will have to use an explosive not to sensitive. There is an option, i think, you could make a mobile part that compress the explosive in the impact with the ground. Or use those things that blows the gas in the car engine, by remote control. -- Posted by qmakowski on 4:34 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 i dont know how to make a bomb shotting device but here is a little somthing i thought up. make a spud launcher with PVC piping and make sure you can fit a pop can down it smoothly. now for ammo... need a say more? -- Posted by golkar on 6:55 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 Has anyone ever tried the shotgun-based Molotov cocktail launcher?  Is the range any better than if you had just thrown the bottle? -- Posted by jmb1125 on 9:16 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 You mean from the Improvised Munitions Handbook? That idea scares me.... -- Posted by johnny 99 on 9:42 pm on Mar. 26, 2002 I'm with jmb about that. I certainly wouldn't do it with any of my shotguns! and the idea of using a zip gun!!!  However I have seen shotguns used as line throwers wth a similar arrangment,so I don't know. I'll try to find a link to a site that shows one. -- Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 12:56 am on Mar. 27, 2002 I remember my uncle telling me about when he was in NAM. They used some old compressed gas shells or some shit. they were blanks and thed put a grenade on some string. thed place the grenade on the tip and shoot the grenade pretty far. i wouldent use this for a Molitolv but i hope it helps someone -- Posted by johnny 99 on 3:28 am on Mar. 27, 2002 So, you say that you want to build a gun that shoots bombs huuu? Ok how about a full auto 40mm grenade launcher that you can build out of hardware store parts!!!!! Then check out this ink. http://www.6.brinkster.com/fullauto/index.html I have got to build one of these!! -- Posted by preditor on 9:53 pm on Mar. 27, 2002 this was a dead link for me. I don't know about the rest of you though. I will insert some morter plans when I finish drawing them up. -- Posted by golkar on 7:02 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 I was just wondering about the Molotov cocktail launcher cuz I've seen the same idea rehashed in several places (Improvised Munitions and some guerrilla warfare text written by Che Guevara I think.)  It just seems like a good way to visit a burn unit.  None of the instructions endorse firing it from the shoulder... it's more like a mortar.   -- Posted by Badassmf on 9:06 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 just make a spud gun their cheap and they work -- Posted by jmb1125 on 9:30 pm on Mar. 28, 2002 Yeah Johnny, that link was dead for me, too. Sure like to see it, though. -- Posted by Bignuts on 12:20 am on Mar. 29, 2002 hey. i uploaded that as it went down where it used to be. http://www26.brinkster.com/fullauto/index.html is the correct address Someone make it and tell me how it goes so i know if i should try do it. ps. why are links the colour of the background??  :/ (Edited by Bignuts at 12:22 am on Mar. 29, 2002) -- Posted by johnny 99 on 1:01 am on Mar. 29, 2002 Thanks bignuts! Good save. Your link works fine. Don't know whats up with mine. sorry! -- Posted by balor on 3:51 pm on Mar. 29, 2002 Im planning to make an attachment for the muzzle of my blankfirer so I could use it to fire a small bomb.The operation of it would be somewhat like a rifle grenade or the molotov cocktail shotgun launcher in miniature. Today I finished making a prototype round of ammunition.It consists of a Co2 bomb mounted in front of a A size rocket motor.I originally made it as a cheap easy to make rocket projectile that could be fired from a single tube or more tube could be employed to make an automatic arrangement.The round is also designed to be multi-purpose as such as it can fit inside an improvised 12 gauge barrel shotgun(regular barrels are just slightly too tight when taper is taken into account) and be fired with the aid of an altered  primed empty shell that would hold the round.It would just make for a potential grenade firing shotgun with the minimum of recoil(if any).It would use the taper of the barrel to raise barrel pressure upon firing to increase range etc.Lot of work to go yet.Have to find a way to stabilise the round as regular fins would not be an option.Maybe something spring loaded. -- Posted by 4N4rKi3 b0mZz3 r k3w on 2:43 pm on April 1, 2002 It's called a mortar and you are what's called a moron. -- Posted by balor on 3:12 pm on April 1, 2002 A mortar is a fixed breech, muzzle loaded weapon that fires with a parabolic trajectory.My round makes an improvised/sawn off shotgun able to be used as a breech loading shoulder fired grenade launcher that doesnt fire in a parabolic way.Hence its not a mortar.Now whos the moron.It makes a shotgun into a kind of closed breech RPG so its hard to define what it is.If you cant tell the diffence between a mortar/shotgun or grenade launcher then piss off.If you try picking a fight you came to the right fella.Youll never post in this forum again if you try to throw shit at me or anybody else. -- Posted by jmb1125 on 9:31 pm on April 1, 2002 Yeah, "K3wL bomber asshole" shut the fuck up. Balor moderates this forum, and if you had been around long enough, you would know that he knows what the fuck he is talking about. That's Direct and Indirect fire weapons. You fucking moron. -- Posted by balor on 4:47 pm on April 2, 2002 Thanks JMB! At least somebody recognises the fact that there is some ignorant little fucks around. About my project my reason for making it was I heard about an anti-tank weapon developed by the Germans in WW2. It used a standard Panzerschreck 88mm rocket in order to use existing stocks of rockets.It resembled a small anti tank gun.It involved the rocket to be breechloaded and the breech to be shut.This meant that upon firing the gases that normally went out the back of the pipe was trapped and put to use with much greater efficiency.The Panzerschreck normally had something like a 150-200 meter range.The same rocket fired from the closed breech weapon got targets out to 500-600 meters. If it meant that you would get an ehanced performance from a shitty model rocket and had something that worked well and consistently. It also meant that a lower grade of steel could be used in the construction of the barrel etc. as barrel pressures would be much lower than lets say the molotov cocktail launcher shotgun. The round could be fired with a primered spent or electronically so it would be pretty versatile even though it would carry a small charge. -- Posted by jmb1125 on 6:44 pm on April 2, 2002 That's interesting balor, because I never heard of that weapon. Sounds like it was used in a direct-fire role. Normally such an artillery type rocket would use a proximity fuse for airburst or anti-personnel. If it was used for AT it must have been fitted with a HEAT shaped charge warhead, I would think. -- Posted by 4N4rKi3 b0mZz3 r k3w on 7:01 pm on April 2, 2002 Then why not call it an RPG in the title and explain any subtle differences I'm sure you'll come up with to discredit me. -- Posted by xenonalieninfo on 9:36 pm on April 2, 2002 research the armburst system it makes a bullit/shell no- recoil it will ad in make RPG(rockit propled grendea) it dates back to 1938 designed by a geman(repost if you want name) ,if you tell me how to put graphicvs on this site, u get better info -- Posted by balor on 2:25 pm on April 3, 2002 After a lot of searching I found out some details of the anti-tank gun that I saw about.It was called "Puppchen"-Dolly.It consisted of a 88mm tube mounted on an obsolute 28mm taper bore anti-tank gun.A breech block was then added to the back of the tube.It says that the Panzerschreck had a 165m yard range while this gun had a range of 750 yards and had better accuracy-it got all its into a 1 meter square target at 500 yards. My round is hard to catagorise.My own opinion is that it would make a shotgun firing it lie somewhere between an M79(difference here is that the M79 is fired by an exploding primer and powder in a case and similarity is that both are breech loading and can be percussion fired) and a RPG(the similarity that both are rocket powered but the RPG has an open end to the rear of the tube so the gas is not bottled up).I know that the round wouldnt be anything compared to the RPG or M79 but the question is still there.I dont know of any weapon nowadays that fires a rocket from a closed breech.If anybody does enlighten me! (Edited by balor at 2:27 pm on April 3, 2002) -- Posted by johnny 99 on 4:18 pm on April 3, 2002 The gyrojet pistol/carbine ? -- Posted by balor on 3:51 pm on April 4, 2002 Spot on! Never thought of that! They were before my time and never appeared over my side of the world so I never knew that much about them.You are right though.Have to test fire at the weekend.See how it goes.     http://www.bombshock.com