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— Posted by needmoney4weed on 10:26 pm on Nov. 9, 2001

Im trying to figure out a more advanced way to break into a car than smashing the window or trying to catch the lock with a piece of metal between the rubber and window. I will be proforming this at a train station and i am not planning on stealing the car, just the radio. This method needs to be suddle and somewhat quiet, if u have an idea just spit it out on a forum, maybe we can build on it.

— Posted by michael on 7:45 pm on Nov. 14, 2001

get a spark plug take the white ring off or smash into peices if it comes off with the hole in it put it on a string and hang it around your neck if you hit a car window with it it will shatter the window makeing almost no sound and keys from old cars will often open othercars the same make or get into a old ford falcon take the dipstick out the motor and the end will open and start old fords

— Posted by Ronin1965 on 4:07 pm on Nov. 15, 2001

If it is a new car that part is easy. Get the VIN number and call the dealership. Tell them that you locked yourself out of the car and wanted to know if they can cut you a new key. If they ask for your registration, tell them it is locked in the car, but you have the VIN number.  Here in the US, they cut you a key and charge you $15. I used to repo cars that way. Othe than that, you will have to go the old fahioned way. (NOTE: this post is for informational purposes only. Not responsible if you are actually dumb enough to break in a car or steal it.)

— Posted by 7th Street on 12:21 pm on Nov. 22, 2001

To make less noise when breakin tha window, cover it in some sticky lamanating plastic shit, then shatter with a screwdriver or whatever.

— Posted by kcirrag on 10:29 pm on Nov. 23, 2001

When you go to break into a car to steal the radio take a brick, throw it through the window and open the door. The great thing about a brick it is also a weapon, so if you are caught use the brick and start swinging.

— Posted by ladieluver on 11:46 pm on Nov. 23, 2001

thats insane just fuckin get a ford put some lamnating shit on the window, take a center punch and break the window, then get a flat head screw driver and put it in the ignition turn and your on your way, i dont think that it will work on all fords but it works on most of the older f-150’s

— Posted by Dman on 11:34 am on Jan. 4, 2002

if you got a ford focus….and the drivers window is open a crack….just take a coat-hanger and straighten it out, put it thru the top….and to the left of the steering wheel theres a big ass button to open the trunk….then go into the trunk, push the back seat down and presto….yer in

— Posted by The Great Milenko on 1:14 am on Jan. 5, 2002

LOL most of you are totally ignoring the fact needmoney4weed said he didnt want to break the window! i dont know a better way but thats just my two cents

— Posted by needmoney4weed on 3:36 pm on Jan. 5, 2002

melinko’s right i asked other than breakin the window but whateva. Another problem im havein with it is openin the trunk, i break in to many cars that dont have buttons to open the trunk, and most good shit is kept in the trunk, is thier any way to open the trunk w/ a crow bar or slim jim?

— Posted by moorey on 2:43 pm on Jan. 11, 2002

i dunno about the newer cars, but older ones, with just the simple metal key, have skeleton keys.. kinda har to get but apparently work for just about any model.. only problem is gettin them. i have no idea where yu could get one, all i know is debt collectors/ reposessers somehow have access to them..(i rnt confused with movies that have had this as an easy way to steal a car- such keys exist to my knowledge… money to get one though

— Posted by wizeass on 8:03 pm on Jan. 12, 2002

im sure that if you just put a flat screwdriver at the top of the window and caught inbetween the window and pushed down it would open up a bit then use a metal wire to open up the lock.

— Posted by The Dark Avenger on 2:22 pm on Jan. 13, 2002

I think I said this in another thread, but what the hell. You can use a flat blade screwdriver and a hammer to remove the keyhole from the trunk. Place the screwdriver where the lock meets the metal of the trunk and hit it. You’ll need a fairly long and wide screwdriver (bigger than your Mom keeps in the Kitchen drawer). After the lock is removed, insert the screwdriver into the hole and turn. This will take some practice, but is usually effective.

— Posted by wampa stompa on 11:43 am on Jan. 14, 2002

If your planning on actualy stealing cars then you need to talk to me. An AFM (alarm frequency modulator) can help you to get inside any ar that is new and is not a crappy honda civic etc. You spy on the car your looking to nick and when the owner gets out an bleeps the alarm make sure your AFM picks up the frequency it uses. All you then have to do is bleep the car with the AFM. Hey presto the alarms off and the doors unlock, the car is YOURS!

A peice of advice, don’t take anything of greater value than a porche (possibly), this includes old collectors items. The reason for this is, expensive cars have satelite tracking systems and if you nick a, say, 64 ferrai daytona, and you don’t know how to disconnect them then your screwed.

— Posted by aSs BacKWuRds on 9:37 am on Jan. 27, 2002

where to get a AFM? Will it cost a kidney?

(Edited by aSs BacKWuRds at 9:39 am on Jan. 27, 2002)

— Posted by wampa stompa on 10:11 pm on Feb. 3, 2002

For a AFM your lokking at 2 to 3 hundred dollars. If you get in touch with your local car number plate changer, spray painter, engine striper guy, he’ll point you in the right direction.

— Posted by Systemadic on 2:12 pm on Feb. 13, 2002

Wow, hammer…. never thought of it. (wonders how much time I spent hopping up and down wedging the flat head between the lock and the metal.) Anyways, like who ever before me said, thats the best method if you dont want to break some glass. But, it makes just about as much noise cuz the metal driver scrapes on the metal door or trunk as you pry away the lock from the car. If you dont have a hammer handy you can do it with just the driver and some brute force. Has to be a relitively long and good driver though.

— Posted by Zambosan on 3:06 pm on Feb. 13, 2002

Obtaining the right carrier frequency is only part of the puzzle… there’s no such thing as an “Alarm Frequency Modulator”.  Most auto alarms use binary frequency shift keying or phase shift keying; but the encoding schemes vary greatly between manufacturers and models.  Even if you had a device that could lock onto the strongest signal in the target band (typically 900 MHz unlicensed in the US) and store the received signal, it would still need to be analyzed to figure out how to decode it.  Simply playing the signal back isn’t necessarily going to work either; most decent alarms use a psuedo-random sequence to determine what the next “correct” code will be.  At any rate, the RF transceiver, data acquisition system, and signal processing software to do this would cost a *hell* of a lot more than $300.  The only AFM *I’ve* ever heard of related to cars is an Air Flow Meter.

— Posted by crookedromeoboom on 11:39 pm on Feb. 19, 2002

in most trunks all you have to do is take a small headed flat head screw driver and put in where the key goes push in really hard and fuck around with it while it’s in there and 90% of the time it unlocks,and for most car windows all you have to do is shove a flat head screw driver between the top of the window and the rubber and wedge the window out a bit slowly because sometimes they shatter and put one hand around the top in the middle and pull whille you put the other hand in and unlock the door it as simple as that.

— Posted by Darkie on 12:06 am on Feb. 24, 2002

Hey, you can’t “wedge a window down.” My dad is a mechanic and i know. A glass cutter might work, u can get one at a hardware store. Get a sheet metal screw(hex head, wide spiral, sharp) and screw it in the lock a bit then loop some cable around it and tighten then yank. Once ur in check near the driver seat to pop the trunk. Nothing there? take a quick look at the back seat, so many now adays fold down. Or just use the screw trick on the trunk lock. Also should work for the ignition.

But i have a question for you. How do u get the radio out so easy? When i try it i have to find a dozen hidden screws first, takes me like 10 minutes.

— Posted by Hergor on 4:53 am on Feb. 24, 2002

Quote: from Zambosan on 3:06 pm on Feb. 13, 2002
…Even if you had a device that could lock onto the strongest signal in the target band (typically 900 MHz unlicensed in the US) and store the received signal, it would still need to be analyzed to figure out how to decode it. Simply playing the signal back isn’t necessarily going to work either; most decent alarms use a psuedo-random sequence to determine what the next “correct” code will be…

900 MHz ? isn’t that a typical frequency for mobile phones ?
maybe one could play around with a mobile and try to convert it into the right kind of transmitter/reciever.
but then the main problem would still remain: getting the right signal.
therefore you would have to be able to scan the same lock several times while activated to feed a programm with the data and find out some kinda pattern…

— Posted by Zambosan on 11:03 am on Feb. 25, 2002

Hergor: yep.  The 900MHz band (and also 2.4 GHz) are unlicensed for civilian use in the US anyways.  The transmitted power must be limited to just a few watts to minimize the coverage area.  If you decoded the raw bits, it would still be up in the air as to whether you could determine the pattern.  They’re usually generated with a pseudo-random number generator.  Implementing in hardware, it’s a shift register (serially-connected D-flip flops) with a number of feedback paths that go through XOR gates.  This performs modulo-2 division of the input by the generator polynomial, which is determined by where the feedback taps are.  This is the same type of HW used for error-detection in a lot of modem standards, and is referred to as a cyclic redundancy check (CRC) in digital communications literature.  The configuration and number of bits determine what the sequence will be, as well as the initial value.  Although there’s only a handful of primitive polynomials used, it would still be awfully hard to deduce it from just the output sequence without knowing any other details.

— Posted by Hergor on 11:22 am on Feb. 25, 2002

even if you got, let’s say about thirty readings on your scanner ?

if so, well, then forget the smooth way and grab a hammer… :biggrin:

— Posted by Zambosan on 12:53 pm on Feb. 25, 2002

Absolutely.  A primitive polynomial (primitives are a small subset of the total # of polynomials for a given # of bits) will generate all random numbers in the entire vector space before repeating.  For a simple 8-bit PRNG, that’s 256 numbers.  More commonly, a 16-bit PRNG will generate 65536 different values before repeating.

— Posted by weston on 11:48 am on Mar. 23, 2002

Email me at b3ripcurl@hotmail.com if you you want key picks for foriegn cars WORKS GRREAT i will give you the web address and u can get them

— Posted by haloween on 4:33 am on April 11, 2002

ever hurt about a universal remote control ????
Usually better cars have central locking mechanism . SO you go to the electronics store , buy a remote 4 bout … 10 $ ??? I dont know how it looks like in your country … And teach him when owner opens/locks his car . Piece of cake . No fucking in bushes …

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