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— Posted by Krypt on 6:55 pm on Mar. 20, 2002

Respect to all you new thinkers out there!

a couple of year ago i got the bright idea to try screwing up electronic circuits, and i did it pretty well *lol*. then i thought i would try fucking a phone box up, and hell that worked too. one day while waitting for my french fry at the local dinner i threw a couple of coins into a gambling machine, and after a couple og minutes i got my self chasing a jackpot. i had 20 chances of getting this jackpot and yet the damn machine wouldn’t bring it up. I left the damn dinner and a found my self a new goal… Manipulate or jacpotting a gambling machine. I tried a lot of shit, and got hold of a device from hackershomepage that was said to hack/jackpot gambling machine. I got it, tried it and i workd pretty well. But times have changed and most gambling machines are made in plastic, or woden cases now, so What i’m looking for now is a method to manipulate the machine from a distance of 1 feet. If anyone could share some info on what could possibly work, or what kind of technology should be applied i’d be thankfull.

— Posted by Reaper on 4:35 pm on Mar. 21, 2002

Krypt, I think I have a solution for you. It is called an RSF disruptor. It disrupts all electroninc/magnetic waves within a given range. Now I am not exactly sure how it works, what it does, or if it even does work at all. Ive heard this from a bunch of friends. I have no idea where to get one but you try a high tech spy electronics store or website. you should have luck there.

— Posted by Reaper on 4:37 pm on Mar. 21, 2002

NOTE: sorry i thought i said this in the post before, I said RSF disruptor. I mean RLF disruptor. Note the L not S. Its L!

— Posted by ActionTimedDeath on 12:33 pm on Mar. 22, 2002

This may not be true – just an opinion!

It probably sends loads of RF noise that’s meant to confuse the payout circuitry or microcontroller.

But it’s probably not going to work. The payout circuitry (probably) needs to be accessed in a ‘secure’ fashion from the microcontroller – basically a few secure ‘codes’ will be written to the circuitry before a payout can occur. This (probably) stops microcontroller crashes from inadvertantly paying out. Or, a (Computer Operating Properly) timeout will occur, resetting the micro before a payout could occur.

I doubt RF interfering with the analogue side of the payout mechanism would trigger a coin release, since the RF would need to activate the mechanism for a farily long time. Longer than a usual interfering RF spike or carrier would (or could)! It may be theoretically possible – but as most ‘theoretically possible’ things, unlikely!

I would expect the most effective ways of getting money from the bastard things would be to own it, rent it or learn how to play the damn thing properly. (You’d be surprised how good some people get at emptying them!)

Steal them? Have you ever tried to carry one of those things?!

Still, if anyone comes up with a proven and workable steal-o-matic solution, here’s the place to post it! :biggrin:

— Posted by johnny 99 on 2:46 pm on Mar. 22, 2002

I saw something not to long ago about ppl in vegas jackpotting slots using a probe light of some kind that they stuck up the coin payout slot. and seems to me that I’ve seen plans for it somewere on the net to order. sorry I don’t remember very much obout it.

— Posted by Zambosan on 3:27 pm on Mar. 22, 2002

That sounds even more unlikely.  The coin slot is just an electromechanical contraption, usually a solenoid driving an emptying mechanism capable of doling out the correct payout.  And, as ATD mentioned, the digital interface to the payout unit is absolutely going to have a multiple-write sequence to minimize the probability of a glitch bus access causing a payout.

— Posted by johnny 99 on 5:39 pm on Mar. 22, 2002

No zam, I was right a quick search on google for jackpotting + devices turned up this link http://www.angelfire.com/biz7/coinslotter/ripoffs2.html where some guy is talking about using an IR probe light or a laser device in the payout slot to rip of slotmachines. If it works or not is a compleatly different matter.

— Posted by Zambosan on 10:30 am on Mar. 25, 2002

I see it… all I can figure is that this is intended to confuse an optoelectronic coin slot somehow to get “free” credits.  I can’t imagine how… even coin slots in vending machines are a bit more sophisticated than that.  Incidentally, the guy who runs the site is saying that the high-voltage generator in the previous pictures is a worthless piece of junk (it used to short out payout machines in the 80’s).

— Posted by johnny 99 on 12:21 pm on Mar. 25, 2002

Yea, I  don’t know dick about how slots work. I thought that maybe they used an optic sensor to count the payout? but I certainly wouldn’t try any of that stuff in a real casino, they’ve got more cameras & security than fucking fort knox.  

(Edited by johnny 99 at 5:33 pm on Mar. 25, 2002)

— Posted by ActionTimedDeath on 11:47 am on Mar. 27, 2002

When I was 12 or 13, there were a couple of games machines at the steam railway my dad used to work at. So being the little bugger I was, I thieved his car keys and tried to open the machines that had an in-line style key. Commando opened it’s cash box for me, thankyou!

At the same place, after nipping around the backs of all the machines, I found that the back of the Silkworm machine had a duff lock. Off it came, and my arm was just long enough to reach inside and trigger the coin mechanism.

Hours of fun, and avoiding getting caught behind the Silkworm machine when the manager walked by!

— Posted by tee hee on 4:58 pm on April 8, 2002

There are a bunch of those gambling devices at http://www.hackershomepage.com > if you happen to have a few hundred dollars in your couch they might be handy.

— Posted by MadBomber2 on 5:17 pm on April 8, 2002

LOL i jkust watched a movie wheer sum people did this scam. They used some kinda probe. Not sure how to make one or buy one though.  But they probably tripped something inside the machine which set it off.  Witch meant they probably used something the equivalent of a slimjim on cars.

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