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How do I make ammonium triiode

— Posted by yourunforgivenII on 11:38 pm on Mar. 27, 2002

I remember someone saying something about a highly sensitive explosive called ammonium triiode. how do you make it and how sensitive is it ?
(I was going to make a blogun to shoot triiode darts)

— Posted by suicidebmber on 12:02 am on Mar. 28, 2002

Mix ammonium hydroxide (pure) with iodine crystals, not tincture of iodine. Then let settle for 5-10 min. You should be able to see a brownish solid or precipitate in the solution. Once settled, place the solution on a filter paper and filter out the crystals. Then wash the crystals with ethyl ether. Most commonly called Nitrogen Tri-iodide NI3.

What i like know, is this compound more unstable than Dimeric AP?

— Posted by Zero the Inestimable on 9:54 am on Mar. 28, 2002

Yes. Ammonium triiodine (nitrogen triiodine, whatever you want to call it) is extremely unstable, sometimes detonating with passing air currents or for no logical reason at all. Other than making a gram or two of the stuff for experimental purposes, I do not condone its manufacture in the least. It is far too dangerous for use in any kind of explosive device.

~Zero the Inestimable

— Posted by OoxHighVoltagexoO on 11:39 am on Mar. 28, 2002

Well I posted some info on this stuff I found on a science web page before and it stated that regular household ammonia will make it more stable, It said in the archives to put the Iodine crystals into a piece of filter paper and suspend over the top of a glass jar, cup, whatever…Soak the crystals in ammonia for 10 minutes then pour soloution into the filter paper and into the cup..I finally found Iodine crystals and tried it and also in the archives it says to take them and wrap them in duct tape gently then throw them or leave them to be stepped on…But…I made a few and they still arent stable enough to put in duct tape and throw and I managed to get my hands blasted a little and covered in brownish purple iodine stains…

— Posted by Zambosan on 11:51 am on Mar. 28, 2002

Yeah, there’s NO making NI3.NH3 insensitive… it’s *the* most sensitive explosive known to man.

— Posted by TheAnarchist on 10:36 am on April 1, 2002

If you mix it with clear amonia found in stores it has so many inpuritys that if thrown is when it explodes…amonia hydroxide will make it highly sensitive

(Edited by TheAnarchist at 10:38 am on April 1, 2002)

— Posted by Zero the Inestimable on 11:54 am on April 1, 2002

No. Ammonia with impurities will only result in less of a yeild in more time. The ammonium triiodine itself is the same molecule as ever, and is just as unstable.

~Zero the Inestimable

— Posted by 4N4rKi3 b0mZz3 r k3w on 1:32 pm on April 1, 2002

Hey ya buncha little shits, give it up. Master your k3wl cratermakers and works bombs before you worry about NI3 or else your only mark on this world will be a tombstone.

— Posted by balor on 2:06 pm on April 1, 2002

Well yourunforgiven11 since you were too fucking lazy to look through previous threads you would have found another thread on Triiodide. I tell of a way I use to make it usable.Im not posting it again so get looking.

— Posted by 4N4rKi3 b0mZz3 r k3w on 2:26 pm on April 1, 2002

Another little gem of intelligence from a “respected affiliate”…

“Yeah, there’s NO making NI3.NH3 insensitive… it’s *the* most sensitive explosive known to man.”

What is NI3.NH3?! I’m assuming you mean NI3 OR NH3? So does that mean you’re trying to tell us that there is no way to make ammonia (NH3) insensitive. Oh shit, I better not shake up that bottle of ammonia in my kitchen. It might explode!!!

— Posted by shadymutha on 2:38 pm on April 1, 2002

You stupid little fucks better stay away from NI3 if you value your body parts, hearing and vision. If you don’t then go for it.  

— Posted by OoxHighVoltagexoO on 3:48 pm on April 1, 2002

Okay I tried again and heres what I did…I took a cup and a piece of filter paper and covered the top of the cop with it allowing some slack for the crystals to lay in like hammock type deal…Mix the two, Iodine crystals and Ammonia…I let them sit for 15 minutes…Now I took the glass OUTSIDE and set it up in the woods…Poured the soloution of crystals and ammonia into the filter paper slowly …I came back about 20 minutes later and noticed they hadnt exploded and were totally dry (they may blow up on a windy day) I made sure I didnt get too close when checking them…Now I stood back about 30 feet with SAFETY GLASSES and EAR PROTECTION..I have the ear protection that look like ear phones..Really they are for taget practice with my rifle…I stood back and shot the top edge of the glass with a BB gun….Lets just say it spreads a lot of brownish/purple dye around and it is pretty fuckin loud just for about 3 grams im guessing it was…Im not sure exactly how much it was but it was pretty damn loud and nasty..whoever said you need to rinse the crystals in Ethyl or whatever is wrong because both times I have dried this idea, It worked without it …I dunno if the affiliates will lock this or flame this topic now that ive mentioned how I did this but…..I guess you could do it the same way late at night on someones porch and just leave it outside their door..When someone opens the door in themorning or even goes to move the glass…lol I feel bad for them….But Like the others have said IT IS VERY UNSTABLE AND NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY AND I AS WELL DO NOT CONDONE ITS USE..I already became deaf once foran hour and dyed my hands brownish purple…BE SAFE …PEACE

— Posted by Zambosan on 4:22 pm on April 1, 2002

Hey Mr. K-Rad “4N4rKi3 b0mZz3 r k3w”… why don’t you check your facts before opening your mouth?  Nitrogen triiodide can’t be isolated as a molecule.  What is formed by this reaction is nitrogen triiodide 1-ammonate, or (NI3:NH4)n.  That’s a repeating chain of nitrogen triiodide with an ammonium ion, forming a zigzag tetrahedral crystal.  You apparently come here to get into pissing contests with people to inflate your ego… but you yourself don’t have a leg to stand on or anything worthwhile to contribute.  Why don’t you go kick puppies?  That way you won’t get spanked in return, you dumb tard.

And oh yes, it *is* the most sensitive explosive compound known, owing to the fact that both nitrogen and iodine are binary elementals, and want to form bonds with themselves (N2, I2).

— Posted by 4N4rKi3 b0mZz3 r k3w on 5:37 am on April 2, 2002

I’m aghast, a glimmer of hope.

My mistake Zambosan, won’t happen again.

And no, I only come here for entertainment. I’ve got other ways of stroking my ego.

By the way, why is someone like you hanging out here? I obviously don’t know as much as you about explosives, but even I can see what absolute shit is being spewed here. WHY?!?!!

— Posted by Zambosan on 10:34 am on April 2, 2002

I *thought* that name was a little tongue-in-cheek.  Not very subtle. :biggrin:
Quite frankly, it wasn’t nearly this bad even a month ago, when the Forum was down.  I enjoy helping out the occasional serious person in the Electronics forum and here in the Explosives forum, and glean tidbits here and there myself.  But it’s getting BAD… the idiots don’t get culled the way they should.  But hey, it’s also a fine shooting gallery, as I see you’ve noticed. 😎

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