— Posted by Rain on 7:28 am on April 6, 2002
hey guys can u gimme a hand on this 1 im trying to make a smoke bomb n i want my ‘weed killer’ as pure as i can get it. any tips?
— Posted by chroniccrescent on 8:34 am on April 6, 2002
i heard you can dilute it in water and strain it through a filter to get a relatively pure batch of sodium chlorate, not too sure on this though.
— Posted by super steele on 10:03 am on April 6, 2002
i dissolved it into water and then boiled it…I was left with a very hard compiund and another substance which was like damp flour and sugar mixed together…i found that the hard stuff burnt and the damp stuff didnt and could be used to extinguish the other (no…im im sure it wasnt because it was damp) so i concluded that the damp stuff was the fire retardant/depressant. Even so..i found it to be a waste of time because from the pot it was 52% pure anyways and it didnt make much difference.
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 1:13 pm on April 6, 2002
Does it matter wut weed killer you get, and is sodium chlorate the active ingredent in the weed killer so i can just look at the package and it will say sumthin like 56.7% sodium chlorate? also does sodium chlorate come if different forms, like liquid, solid, powder, or? one more thing when super steele said “from the pot it was 52% pure anyways and it didnt make much difference.” does he mean before he boiled it?
— Posted by Mr Tripp on 2:13 pm on April 6, 2002
Yeah you dont have to worry about getting the sodium chlorate any purer as it is, the fire retardant does practically fuk-all anyways hehe:cool: if your having problems lighting it however, just get some basic supermarket sugar, crush it into a fine powder and mix it in with it, (equal-parts for those interested) this will help the sodium chlorate burst into a brilliant super hot white flame:biggrin:
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 2:30 pm on April 6, 2002
so mr. tripp for making my own fuses would i just but weed killer and not do nething to it and fallow the recipe for making your own fuses? i dont ned to purify the weed killer right?
— Posted by Mr Tripp on 3:23 pm on April 6, 2002
The stuff we got was powdered stuff, it doesnt have to be treated or prepared in any way, just mix it with sugar or a gunpowder mixture, and it will burn like hell when lit, a mate and I tested it on an ashtray and it lit like a fucker, we were afraid it would melt the thing! 😮 the fire retardant just prevents it from catching fire but not by much, as long as you have an oxidant to ignite it with, it will burn without a problem. btw what kinda fuses you makin??
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 3:31 pm on April 6, 2002
Just regular cannon fuses for a co2 bomb, and ideas? should i mix the sodium chlorate with the sugar for fuses?
— Posted by super steele on 3:35 pm on April 6, 2002
i may be wrong but isnt the sodium suplhate the oxidant in the first place..or am i getting terms mixed up here..as what you need to ignite it is a fuel.
— Posted by super steele on 3:37 pm on April 6, 2002
i meant to say chlorate
— Posted by Mr Tripp on 3:49 pm on April 6, 2002
In answer to super steel: yes Sodium chlorate is an oxidant, but the fire retardant reduces the effects, thats why a sister oxidant is needed.
Yeah Pyro jus mix it in with your sugar, (Just make sure the sugar is crushed! like a really fine powder, you will probably have to do this yourself, but it takes seconds so dont worry about effort.) my adive is to make a ciggarette fuse, which you simply roll a joint but insted of weed you fill it with your gunpowder/sodium chlorate mixture or whatever, you can change the mixtures around so that they have differant effects, adding lots of sulphar will make it burn down more slowly etc.
Sodium Chlorate is mostly used for bombs though instead of fuses, because it has such a violent reation. A simple Charcoal, Sulphar and Salt Petre (or powdered sugar works as well) fuse will have the best results, experiment with the combinations and amounts, because they all have differant effects.
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 6:38 pm on April 6, 2002
im going to try to make a mini-pipe-bomb, out of 1 part Sodium chlorate, one part sugar, and one part blackpowder, there will be 2 inches of all the above, i wonder how many days i will spend in the hospital…
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 7:22 pm on April 6, 2002
aight i got a question, do i get regular sugar and crush it or can i use that canfectioners sugar (allready powdered sugar used on doughboys and stuff)
— Posted by paladinpress on 9:47 pm on April 6, 2002
just use regular sugar, preferabley bleached seems to work more for me,
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 10:48 pm on April 6, 2002
— Posted by paladinpress on 5:44 am on April 7, 2002
YES ALLWAYS TRY AND KEEP YOU CHEMICALS AROUND 400 mesh if you can the smaller then particals the faster ands easier the dentonation or deflagration
— Posted by sinstar on 10:15 am on April 7, 2002
DO NOT mix chlorites with sulpher thats just a rule right there. and you DO have to purify it if you want to make NaClo3/suger.
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 11:40 am on April 7, 2002
can someone please tell me if i used confectioners powered sugar, would it work the same? i mean its allready powered
— Posted by paladinpress on 1:46 pm on April 7, 2002
I’m not sure I have never heard of anyone useing it , my frist reaction is to say do not use but sence I do not knowI ask that you use it and then post your finding s on the board Powdered Vs. Granluar sounds like a grudge match made in a chemists mind
— Posted by Mr Tripp on 3:17 pm on April 7, 2002
I thought the powdered confectionar sugar would work as well but when I tried to use it, it carmalised and turned into a syrup:angry: but strangely the granulated sugar works fine, but only when crushed.:cool:
— Posted by paladinpress on 4:10 pm on April 7, 2002
I thought so we have never used it, but we never new for shure how it would work…………..There is nothing more imbarceing then having everyone to see your great fireworks display and nothing happens…. With powdered sugar and least they would have some rock candy it sounds like With a little Nitro headache for flavor………. But hey thanks for posting and telling us
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 5:35 pm on April 8, 2002
ok could sumone please name a couple brands of weed killers that have Sodium chlorate in it cause i spent like 2 hours at Home Depot looking at the ingredents on weed killers and i couldn’t find ne Sodium chlorate and i think it your be a little weird if i walked up to sumone and asked them ” hi do you have any weed killers with Sodium chlorate in it ” wut happens if they say why would i want it but please name a couple brands
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 7:21 pm on April 8, 2002
— Posted by spootyguy on 12:57 pm on April 9, 2002
I dont know any brand names but you are looking for a tub with granules in, so when you shake it, it should….. sound like there are granules in it i suppose.
Are you from the UK? I could find out a brand for you if you like, but it is probably no use if you are in the US… It is one with around 55% purity, and one that I have used before with great comic effect, I mixed it in with some powdered sparkler in an open bean can and it threw out a hell of a lot of smoke and chucked out lots of burning star things… good one for screwing up someone’s shed floor (big ring of charred wood) and filling it up with smoke…
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 8:24 pm on April 9, 2002
no in from the us but does anyone know any brand names?
— Posted by sinstar on 8:29 pm on April 9, 2002
To my knowledge you can not get NaClo3 weedkiller In the US, their was a big disscussion about it on the explosives and weapons forum.
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 8:41 pm on April 9, 2002
what the fuck i have the us im moving to mexico or canada or sumthin
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 8:47 pm on April 9, 2002
also is $10 aight for 1 lb of sodium chlorate (on pyrotec)
— Posted by sinstar on 9:19 pm on April 9, 2002
yeah sucks don’t it?Look on the bright side you can order chems and fuses in the states we brits have to improvise evreything.
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 7:23 am on April 10, 2002
so back to my wuestion anyone in the us buy weed killer with sc in it? i need the brand names
— Posted by Pyr0Maniac on 7:30 am on April 11, 2002
ne names at all?