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— Posted by guzzetti on 12:10 pm on Mar. 31, 2002

I need A fast way to Make Iron Oxide(rust)  Any help.

— Posted by Sum guy on 1:30 pm on Mar. 31, 2002

What type? (Iron II Red) or (Iron III Black) rust?

— Posted by guzzetti on 4:13 pm on Mar. 31, 2002

Iron II Red

— Posted by XxBULAxX on 4:30 pm on Mar. 31, 2002

Either buy it, or go to a junk yard (or a hillbillies yard) and scrape it off of a shit box car.. It can also be made through electrolosis, but I don’t remember how

— Posted by Sum guy on 7:01 pm on Mar. 31, 2002

you do know you need Iron III for thermite.

— Posted by guzzetti on 7:24 pm on Mar. 31, 2002

How do i make Iron III?

— Posted by Egg411 on 10:22 pm on Mar. 31, 2002

get a  dc power supply and connect something iron to both wires.  i’m not suire which one rust  but i think just the positive or just the negative attach it to a piece of iron with a lof of surface area like a sqaure block but nails and shit will do.  try not to get any of the wire in the water cause the copper will oxidize and make it impure.  you also might wanna setup a tank or something with 2 separate reseviors connected toward the top so the chemicals coming off the other wire dont pollute it.  use  2 plastic buckets and attach them toward the top with a little pvc pipe and pipe cement.  use something with a lot of amps and it happens faster.  you could buy a lab power supply ,use batteries, buy a small dc transformer at radio shack.  then just dry the rust out

— Posted by chroniccrescent on 5:12 pm on April 1, 2002

i thought the kind of rust didnt matter in thermite

p.s just put iron nails in salty water for rust, does the trick every time and is quite fast

(Edited by chroniccrescent at 5:13 pm on April 1, 2002)

— Posted by Sicopath on 7:13 pm on April 1, 2002

Over time, Iron II compounds become iron III through loss of electrons. So if you leave iron II oxide out for a week, it’ll turn into iron III oxide.

— Posted by Egg411 on 11:05 pm on April 1, 2002

if you use electrolysis you should add some sulfuric acid or salt to the water to make it more electrically conductiive

— Posted by Zambosan on 10:40 am on April 2, 2002

Wash some of the cheapest steel wool pads you can find (the ones with no soap in them, not like Brillo) in vinegar to remove any oils.  Then rinse off, let dry, and touch off with a match (or connect a battery through it, same deal).  It will burn very hot and crumble into iron (III) oxide.

— Posted by guzzetti on 12:50 pm on April 2, 2002

What ur saying is I Get a Coil pad or what ever, Soak it in vinegar for How long? Then let dry the run electricity through it.Could i Hook up a DC adapter to it instead of a battery?

— Posted by Zambosan on 1:11 pm on April 2, 2002

You just need to burn it.  A battery just happens to be capable of catching steel wool on fire through resistive heating.  And it must be steel *wool*, not the thicker coil pads.

— Posted by xenonalieninfo on 8:59 pm on April 2, 2002

so a match is hot enother to lit steel(lol)

— Posted by Sicopath on 9:30 pm on April 2, 2002

and the steel wool must be drawn out into a strand if you are to run a current through it am I right? if you leave it as a big clump, the many strands contact each other reducing the resistance, therefore reducing the rate at which heat is produced.

— Posted by Zambosan on 12:50 pm on April 3, 2002

XAI: yes, a match *is* hot enough to burn steel if it’s surface area/volume ratio is high enough.  If you make steel (or any other metal) into a fine enough powder, it can even become pyrophoric in air, spontaneously combusting with an insane amount of heat.  Try something before you laugh at it.  Sico: you can just jam a 9v battery into the pad, the amount of air space between the strands prevents you from contacting all that many at once… it’ll catch pretty quickly, the strands are *so* thin that even a small current heats ’em up to the burning point.

— Posted by yourunforgivenII on 5:03 pm on April 3, 2002

electrolosys is good for more than rust… if you look at the negative lead, there are bubble forming on it…those are hydrogen gas.

— Posted by guzzetti on 7:49 pm on April 3, 2002

SO Again how would i Make rust out of a coil pad .How would i hook it up and what do i hook it up to?

— Posted by IcedMetal on 7:12 am on April 7, 2002

So in other words you don’t necessarily HAVE to use a dc power supply?  I dunno about you ppl but I think there’s a risk of getting yourself electrocuted if you need to put the wire around a rod and dump it in water…

— Posted by paladinpress on 8:16 am on April 7, 2002

all you are doing with the electeircyt is making a electromaginc feild and atracting the rust caused buy the water/acid       then reason for dc is dc as normal people know and use it is more safe then AC {Buy that I mean most people know direct current trhiugh drycell and car batteries, and Alterbnating current coming out of there walls I could go off more but this is not the right fourm}

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