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Nitrogen Triiodide Question

— Posted by oxHighVoltagexo on 8:04 am on Mar. 6, 2002

Hey guys, I know im stupid so save the weak commentary for one of the other shmucks asking about stupid ass shaving cream bombs or whatver they ask…My question is…With Nitrogen Triiodide…Can you use liquid Iodine? If not where can crystals be found, My pharmacist doesnt carry them..Also what are the parts of Ammonia and Iodine for the mixture..The part in the Archives wasnt clear on that…Anyone?? Thanks again and sorry for being a weetawd


— Posted by balor on 2:20 pm on Mar. 6, 2002

I used often make Nitrogen Triiodite so I know a bit about it.I have always made it out of Iodine crystals and Ammonia liquid so I have never had any problem with improvising or making do with inferior chemicals.I got the Iodine crystals from a chemist saying I let the top off the jar of Iodine in school so it sublimed and I had to replace it.You could say also that you want to stockpile Iodine crystals so if any natural or manmade disaster happened it could be used to purify water as thats whats its used for.Iodine liquid contains only a tiny amount of Iodine so for all the liquid you will have a tiny amount of crystals when the liquid is evaporated.I have never tried adding the Ammonia to the Iodine liquid.By volume I always use a mixture of 20% Iodine crystals 80% Ammonia.I find a good use is to wrap the wet Iodine Triiodite in a plastic pouch and seal it with glue.This keeps the stuff wet and somewhat stable.Something else is needed then to detonate the pouch of Triiodite.Also a word of advise,stay away from “Polar pure” Iodine crystals.They are used for water purification in a survival situation.They are about 20 times more expensive than buying from a chemist.

— Posted by AbSoLuTeZeRo on 5:18 pm on Mar. 6, 2002

I also have a problem with finding the damn iodine crystals!!! I went on ebay, and found that those bastards wanted 250 for that shit!!! fuck that!!! I am still in middle school but I have acess to the high school through “mutual friends” my Advice to you if you are in high school is to stal the shit!!!

— Posted by DeathWagon on 9:21 pm on Mar. 6, 2002

I for one wouldn’t fuck with Nitrogen Triiodite. It can explode from the touch of a feather can’t it?! If there was a way to stabalize it and use a fuse or other such item to set it off I would like to know.

— Posted by The Great Milenko on 3:11 am on Mar. 7, 2002

Your question is valid oxHighVoltagexo, is also dont really know were to get iodine crystals, i was going to try a method used to get the crystals from the iodine tincture, but after what balor said, i doubt i will, but hey, just for shits and giggles i’ll go and ask a chemist if they sell any, i’ll use your exuse balor, thanx :), but what if they ask what school i’m from so they can verify it and shit?

— Posted by balor on 3:30 pm on Mar. 8, 2002

Its not a controlled substance anywhere but even use my excuse to needing the iodine to purify water incase of a survival situation etc.They cannot really refuse you then even if they think you are kindof fucked in the head.As for you Deathwagon I had answered your question in my last post if you had cared to read all of it.

— Posted by AbSoLuTeZeRo on 6:53 pm on Mar. 8, 2002

if you use regular kitchen ammonia it wont explode as easily, what was the method of changing iodine liquid into crystals???

— Posted by balor on 12:54 pm on Mar. 9, 2002

I always use the ordinary household ammonia and its still unstable.As for the iodine liquid I dont know really would it work because bearing in mind that iodine sublimes evaporating the alcohol may also cause the iodine to disappear.

— Posted by Zambosan on 4:43 pm on Mar. 11, 2002

You can reclaim the solid iodine from a tincture: pour it into a shallow dish, place a cup over top of it with a few pennies or other coins as standoffs to leave a small amount of space.  The more volatile solvents should escape around the edges, while the iodine will sublime and resolidify on the inside of the cup.  Low yield, though.

— Posted by oxHighVoltagexo on 5:14 pm on Mar. 11, 2002

Hey guys thanks for the help…Im gonna try his idea with the two dishes and some pennies…ill let you know how well it works…Umm someone said something about the Triiodite being unstable but I read on a science web page that did tests on this stuff and it says the more ammonia the less unstable…Anyway I tried just liquid Iodine and it doesnt do jack shit..It takes forever to dry and when it does it doesnt do anything…So ill let you guys know and thanks again…PEACE

— Posted by AbSoLuTeZeRo on 10:06 am on Mar. 14, 2002

just steal the shit, either shoplift it of take it from school damn it aint that hard

— Posted by OoxHighVoltagexoO on 10:08 am on Mar. 14, 2002

Shut up slappy, I dont go to school and I havent seen it in any stores and the drug stores all have it behind the counter anyway..And all the ones that do carry havent had any in a month…Genius…Now what???

— Posted by AbSoLuTeZeRo on 10:28 am on Mar. 14, 2002

gee let me think… I know! pay a highschooler a 20 to get some for you!!!

— Posted by OoxHighVoltagexoO on 1:56 pm on Mar. 14, 2002

Whatever man, Im 22, I dont hang around high school kids and I dont know anyone in college so piss off smart shit…

— Posted by ilovekayla on 6:32 pm on Mar. 14, 2002

you told him lol

— Posted by paladinpress on 5:42 pm on April 9, 2002

I was wondering if anyone had done anymore with Nitrogen Triiodide in way of desenseitizing it iwould be fun to bring it down a notch where it would go off after you throw it and it hit something. AP does but you have to hit it hard Nitrogen Triiodide could be made to go off my it struck something soft……. I would play around making it but the shit is expensive.  If a safe way came about making it more desnsetized it would be more apted to use it… the uses would be endless     mostly as a fun NON-Harmful prank device

— Posted by balor on 3:59 pm on April 10, 2002

Zambosan answered that question about stabilising Triiodide. It cant chemically be done as Nitrogen and Iodine cant easily stay together. I cant remember what exactly Zambosan but they have a very weak bond between atoms as they are trying to get rid of each other. The wet pouch method I discovered above is the only method I have ever seen used to stabilise Triiodide.Its not perfect but it works when used correctly.  

— Posted by paladinpress on 8:30 pm on April 10, 2002

This is a off the wall question that just poped into my head …. I a thought

If I where to make some mopre and some spilled on the ground but I did not find it till it dried could I pour water on it or would that make it go off, would I have to pour water around it and let it soak in through the sides??

I was a thought that spawned from thinking about making it agai and coming it to a situation where it had to move a amount of it powdered.

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