— Posted by thadon41 on 12:11 am on Mar. 31, 2002
Hi, I am just wondering.What are the best lockpicking tools? I have search a few good sites and there is loads of stuff to choose from. I read that the eletronic gun is no good. But what about the manual lockpick gun? or is it best to just get a ‘novice’ set of hand picks?
Also, does it damage the lock in any way by picking it?
— Posted by DARK ANGEL on 10:04 am on Mar. 31, 2002
The lock aid majestic pick gun has been around for years and is one of the best pick guns around.As for picks ive found (south ord) to be the best.If you just want to open up a lock and you have got the money to spend then get a gun ,on the other hand if you want to learn how to pick locks properly then get a cheap pick set and check out the MIT lock picking guide online.
And no picking locks does not damage them.
— Posted by Stravox on 12:46 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
The first lock-picking tools I ever had, I jimmy-rigged out of a small allen-wrench and a piece of an oil dipstick.
I took the allen-wrench (i cant remember exact size, but it was appx. 2 inches long and an inch on the short side) and put the short side down on a grinder thingy they have in machine shops, filling the short end down on both sides so it was flat and thin instead of octagon-shaped.
Then I got an old dipstick (the thin ones) and cut off a piece about 7 or 8 inches long. Then I put on end on the grinder and tappered only one corner on the end, so that it was rounded at a 90 degree angle.
Then I wrapped some electric tape around the other end for some grip.
Blammo, there you go, some good tools to learn the basics of lock-picking. Since then Ive gotten full lock pick sets, and I have used a gun although I dont own one, but those tools I originally made worked 85% of the time, and they didnt cost anything!
I recommend making your own tools at first and learning with those. That way you know more about how different locks work, also how to identify the simple ones that are quicker and easier. The above tools will work on most door and dead bolt locks, and most master locks. Wich happens to be about 90% of the locks that the average family uses anyway. All that fancy shit you hardly ever see except for in new buildings, and you’d be surprised at how simple alot of locks are on some warehouses and stores even. County building are some of the easiest, because they have a budget that doesnt allow them to buy crap. Of course you got to worry about alarms, but maybe not, it depends what you are breaking in for, and on the other hand, Ive know quite a few County buildings that dont even have alarm systems hooked up to all the entry points. A good idea before breaking in somewhere, is to try to get in during opening hours, or whatever and look around and make mental notes of cameras, visible alarms boxes, lock types, gaurds, type of flooring, etc… just dont look too obvious doing that of course.
But anyway, this is probably way more info than you asked for, but hope it helps.
(Edited by Stravox at 12:59 pm on Mar. 31, 2002)
— Posted by trowe on 2:02 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
thats alot of good info. thanks man, i was about to post the same question this guy did… but i got a question for anyone, sort of related. after you break in, how do you disable the alarm? a place i want to break into has a big alarm. if you cut the power, it automaticall sends a silent alrm to the police, ther are no sounds on it, like speakers or anything. but cutting the hard-line(telephone line) doesnt work either, because police computers show a signal interuption, and they come and check it out… so if anyone knows how to get around this, please tell me…
— Posted by Stravox on 2:28 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Well, im no electrician… I cant say how to disarm an alarm, but something that I always remember… just as in hacking, no building is completely free from safe infiltration. There is always someway to get in undetected. Well, you know, within reason. Im not talking about prisons or banks or anything like that.
Think about where people put alarm triggers…
Doors and windows. The typical city/county building or warehouse does not have motion sensor on the inside. But of course, you wouldnt want to take the risk if there was… but sometimes its necasary. Thats where its important to get in and out as fast as possible.
So where can you get in undetected without having to disarm the alarm?
Try getting in somewhere under the building. There might be some weak siding around a vent or something like that. Then look for access points up through the floor through the vent system. This type of entry only works for buildings that are pre-manufactured then put together onsite.
But if its made with a real foundation and theres no way under, and if you are willing to risk a window entry, try a window that you know is a bathroom. They hardly ever wire 100% of the windows to the alarm system.
There are different ways you can try with windows, but they might have a double latch mechanism on the inside that will pretty much keep you from getting in.
Whatever you do, don’t attempt to infiltrate a place unless you know as much about the inside as possible, and defenently don’t do it if your skills dont match up.
— Posted by 96vickersc on 8:07 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
I’m no expert but…… I was thinking to myself. Do you know where the phone line cable is? Actually disrupt the connection. Then when the police come and find nothing wrong they’ll think that there’s a fault with the system. Keep dissconnecting the system till they don’t even bother to come. Then break in after a few days of doing it. You should be able to get in without them coming.
I’ve got another crappier idea. Do you know what kind of signal the alarm send to the police? If it’s just a reocurring sound then couldn’t u just connect some kind of tape recorder or something to the wires. Then record the sound. Then play the sound down the phone line so it’s in sync with the actual alarm. Then dissconnect the alarm. The tape player thingy should keep the signal going. Obviously don’t use a tape player, but something like a tape player that could transmit a signal might work.
Either way. I think my first idea was a bit better and more reliable. I also think that it’ll be easier to pull off
— Posted by trowe on 8:17 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
What i have found out about the alarm, is as soon as the transmission is stopped, the cops are notified, and are dispatched. the transmission is stopped only when the phones are down, and the cops do a check… how could i disrupt the phone lines and make it look like an accident…
— Posted by Stravox on 8:31 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
How could you disrupt the phone lines and make it look like an accident?
Either way, they are going to come, so what’s the point?
— Posted by thadon41 on 8:31 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Thnx for the info dudes. yeah I dont wanna make my own tools –
-I dont have time
-Whats the point when I can buy them? …lol
Anyway, yeah I guess I’ll just get a basic set with a tension wrench and a few different shape picks. cheerz.
On the alarm thing, I would say find some info on the type of alarm system it is. There must be some default codes for it. You could try them.
— Posted by KrazyKilo on 9:51 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
what u do is line the edges of a window with duct tape and then shatter the bitch. that way, the sensor wont know the glass is shattered. THIS DOSE WORK!
— Posted by Stravox on 9:57 pm on Mar. 31, 2002
Yea that MIGHT work, if the glass was super thin and the sensors sucked.