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— Posted by LethalToss on 9:01 am on Mar. 26, 2002

Hi guys.
I’m new here, I live in Brazil and bla bla bla
I made some projects, like guided missel made of PVC pipes and some other stuff.
I made the X-Arrow too. An arrow with Cx = 0,4 that explodes
and other cool stuffs like how produce poison from Botox.

This forum is very cool, know? I just want to say that my english is not so good, so forgive me for any mistakes I make.


— Posted by chroniccrescent on 9:11 am on Mar. 26, 2002

(Edited by chroniccrescent at 12:21 pm on Mar. 26, 2002)


— Posted by Creeper on 9:48 am on Mar. 26, 2002

o0o0o0O0oh Your so mean.


— Posted by Hergor on 11:33 am on Mar. 26, 2002

if you got things like that why not telling us directly?

i’m interested in that guided missile. could you post some info (description/pix)?


— Posted by johnny 99 on 12:10 pm on Mar. 26, 2002

Yes please, more info on the guided missile!!!


— Posted by Ankou on 12:14 pm on Mar. 26, 2002

Absolutely! Guided missiles kicks ass!! Tell us more about it. Oh and BTW welcome to bombshock.


— Posted by balor on 3:01 pm on Mar. 26, 2002

Tell us about the guided missile.I hope you dont mean that it is just purely aimed at the target but that it is self/remote guided.

As for this thread,it is rather pointless.There are ample threads to post on and to contribute to but I will not lock this thread until the guided missile is explained for those who are curious.

(Edited by balor at 3:08 pm on Mar. 26, 2002)


— Posted by Molitolv Volkov on 12:59 am on Mar. 27, 2002

That missle sounds sweet ass. and the guy uses better english that i do and i live in tha usa.

I hope this guy aint fuckin with us on this missle.


— Posted by Sicopath on 4:22 am on Mar. 27, 2002

Perhaps LethalToss is referring to a “wire-guided” missile, which is not as complicated as a “remote-guided” missile.


— Posted by LethalToss on 3:24 pm on Mar. 27, 2002

I mean YOU (us) guide the missel with the remote control.
I prefered to project a missel that makes a parabolic way, so it gets more speed with the earth aceleration. I ought an idea to scan the papers, cause its to big for my desk scanner. Here we call it A-3 papers, it’s like 4 letter papers togheter, know?  but the system is easy to explain
I used reverse impulse, cause if you use direct the fuel will be droped in the air by the force it provides in the launch.
it’s like an airplane turbine with the gas escape reversed
very simple. the remote controls the back flaps by a little engine used in that small remote control planes, know?
but only one engine.  and the fuel capsule, when it reachs 700 degrees and 6% tons by square centimeter it brakes and the missel becomes less heavy.
the only problem in projecting a missel is that you can not calculate the range with the height constant, cause when the fuel is burned, the missel adquire more inertia becouse the force is the same but the mass to push is less.
so i solved this problem with little boxes that burns one after another, so i knew the total mass of fuel in each one
but with this system you can see the time each box delays to burn totally and you can use this values for small range calculated. like the first 50 meters, first box (40 kilograms for example). 50 to 100 meters second box (37 kilograms) …
simple? you can bet it
 


— Posted by jmb1125 on 7:21 pm on Mar. 27, 2002

The trick with guided missles is keeping the control surfaces correctly oriented in relationship to the ground it’s flying over. If it leaves the launch tube and rotates lets say, 180 degrees, “up” will become “down” ect.


— Posted by johnny 99 on 8:32 pm on Mar. 27, 2002

I,m pretty shure that he means a pulse jet? like we discussed in the other rocket thread.  I’ also would like to know how you stabillized the rotation? Also what fuel did you burn in it? Thanks.


— Posted by xenonalieninfo on 11:22 pm on Mar. 27, 2002

if you won’t to know how to make guided missles repost to this


— Posted by LethalToss on 4:36 am on Mar. 28, 2002

The problem on turning in the launch is solved by the reversed impulse, cause the missel will have 3 gas escapes.
The fuel I’m testing now is nitro-metan(I think its NH2-CH3)
What is a pulse jet?


— Posted by johnny 99 on 5:29 am on Mar. 28, 2002

Here is a link to a bunch of pulse jet plans. home3.inet.tele.dk/kenethm/index.html  What do you mean by reversed impulse? I understand spinning it to stabilize it, but how do you keep your control surfaces orriented if it’s spinning?


— Posted by LethalToss on 11:07 am on Mar. 28, 2002

When you give a direct way to the missel you need to spin it
like some guns do, they have their inside “pipe” with some things that make the bullet spin.
Thats why I prefered to make a parabolic missel
like those ones Germany used in the world war II to atack England.

The new missels use a direct impulse, controled by a gas valve that do not allow the fuel to be droped in the air or by the force of the launch
the reversed system solves this problem cause the fuel will be burned in the same way of the missel target, the gas will be droped in the back, by 3 scapes, when the gas makes pressure in the way of the missel and dont find a exit, it will be droped by the escape in the back, and the missel use  both forces.


— Posted by jmb1125 on 7:47 pm on Mar. 28, 2002

Uhhh….did anyone get that? I think I might of, but maybe not.

(Edited by jmb1125 at 7:51 pm on Mar. 28, 2002)


— Posted by johnny 99 on 1:10 am on Mar. 29, 2002

I get the spinning part, using three exaust vents? And I assume that by parabollic he means horizontal as oposed to vertical flight.But the rest is all greek to me, and I still haven’t heard how he keeps the control surfaces aligned.  Can you post pictures lethal toss?


— Posted by LethalToss on 12:01 pm on Mar. 29, 2002

As I said before
the projects are in an A-3 paper, very large
I need some ideas to scan that in my computer

anyone?
and what i need to do to post pictures here?


— Posted by knightmedia on 2:08 pm on Mar. 29, 2002

LethalToss –

You said you have a normal-sized scanner? Just scan it in parts with some overlap and name the images according to a matrix, as in:
A1 A2 A3 A4
B1 B2 B3 B4
C1 C2 C3 C4
etc…

I think at least SOME of the people here are smart enough to reassemble them, if you can’t do it yourself in photoshop.


— Posted by corps on 2:26 pm on Mar. 29, 2002

wow…guided missile…ive been searching for one manual…ple send it to seven_monkys@hotmail.com


— Posted by jmb1125 on 7:52 pm on Mar. 29, 2002

I’m sure some ppl here understand the level of sophistication required to produce a guided missle. Case in point, both the TOW and the Hellfire. This I gotta see.


— Posted by LethalToss on 8:43 am on Mar. 31, 2002

sorry for the delay in answering, i had some problems over here.
I will scan the plans

what is the difference between a missel and a rocket?


— Posted by jmb1125 on 10:56 am on Mar. 31, 2002

lol, okay, well rockets are usually unguided, and missles are (usually) guided, as in “guided missle.” Now, how you would build such a thing out of pvc pipe and some other stuff is beyond me.

(Edited by jmb1125 at 3:12 pm on Mar. 31, 2002)


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